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In a flap over flags: If Scotland goes it alone, what flag does the rest of the UK wave?
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 5th December 2013 | Jim Norton

Posted on 12/05/2013 2:49:25 PM PST by naturalman1975

After nearly 400 years of symbolising four nations united in one flag, what would the Union Flag look like without the blue and white of the Saltire?

The question is being posed by flag experts after a poll found nearly 65 per cent were in favour of changing the flag if Scotland votes Yes to independence.

The vexillologists, as they are known, have come up with designs that could replace the familiar red, white and blue flag.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: flag; flags; scotland; unitedkingdom
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To: Ray76
They're being annexed by Iceland?
41 posted on 12/05/2013 3:52:06 PM PST by x
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To: Ray76

But Northern Ireland is already acknowledge in the existing flag. That’s the primary reason for acknowledging Wales as well.


42 posted on 12/05/2013 3:53:24 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: x

Good catch! I checked though, the cross on Iceland’s flag is not centered but about a third in from the left side.


43 posted on 12/05/2013 3:53:50 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

The Iceland issue hadn’t occurred to me either (it should have) but your design also removes the Cross of St Patrick, not just the cross of St Andrew - and it leaves the blue field which comes from the St Andrew flag as well.


44 posted on 12/05/2013 3:56:59 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

For Ulster add a red ‘x’ without any white border, for Wales... well they’re not on the current UK flag (at least I don’t think so).


45 posted on 12/05/2013 3:59:11 PM PST by Ray76
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To: naturalman1975

I think that was a poke at Arlen Specter. :-)


46 posted on 12/05/2013 4:00:50 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: naturalman1975

Sorry, I can’t imagine a change in the old Union flag. Tell the Scots, “We’re keeping it. Don’t like it? Rejoin us and vote it out. Then you can vote to leave again”.


47 posted on 12/05/2013 4:03:49 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: naturalman1975

Another idea would be to lose the white of Scotland changing it to yellow for Wales, and keep the red ‘x’ for Northern Ireland. That should make everyone happy.


48 posted on 12/05/2013 4:09:26 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

clarification:

change the white ‘x’ for Scotland to a yellow ‘x’ for Wales, keeping the red ‘x’ for Northern Ireland


49 posted on 12/05/2013 4:10:58 PM PST by Ray76
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To: jocon307
"Do you think if Scotland gets independence that they’ll get their act together and stop being a nation on the dole?"

They'll probably have to. I'm sure England will retain control of whatever is left of the wealth of Empire, which probably isn't much anyway as they've been squandering it for the last 70 years pretending that Socialism works. /rant

50 posted on 12/05/2013 4:12:14 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: naturalman1975

If you like your flag you can keep it. Period.


51 posted on 12/05/2013 4:15:12 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: PLMerite; naturalman1975; goldstategop

Thanks all!

I like “O Canada” as a song very well.

I wish Scotland success, maybe they can lead the way to a new beginning for the West.

why not? somebody needs to do it!


52 posted on 12/05/2013 4:21:59 PM PST by jocon307
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To: naturalman1975

I don’t see a reason to remove it. Historic symbology aside, it helps even out the design of the flag, which would otherwise be too little red on a stark white background.


53 posted on 12/05/2013 4:24:53 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Clump

“If we want it we will have to claim it the old fashioned way though.”

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The way to voluntary peaceful secession is for Texas to exercise its legal right to divide into 5 separate states.
The thought of 10 Texas Senators, at least 8 of them Republican, would be enough for the feds and the 49 lesser states to let Texas go without a fight.


54 posted on 12/05/2013 4:25:56 PM PST by peyton randolph (Tagline copyright in violation of Directive 10-289)
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To: x
If Scotland becomes independent, why wouldn't Wales follow suit?

Wales doesn't have any North Sea oilfields to even pretend to support them. London will have to suffice.

55 posted on 12/05/2013 4:34:11 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: naturalman1975; x
Any of these ideas do anything for you? I'm no graphic artist so squint a little to get the idea.

 

 

 

 


56 posted on 12/05/2013 5:12:48 PM PST by Ray76
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To: carriage_hill

You know exactly what you’re talking about. I know, too, and I agree. The rest is chintz.


57 posted on 12/05/2013 5:14:44 PM PST by golux
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To: Ray76
Since you asked, I'm thinking red white and blue are almost as central to British national consciousness as to our own.

Red White Yellow and Black streamers and bunting won't inspire today's Britons to much patriotic feeling, and could scare old folks into thinking the country had been invaded. Maybe as time goes by things could change.

One immediate effect though -- Jamaican-Britons would be pleased to see some of their ancestral colors worked into Britain's new flag.

58 posted on 12/05/2013 5:34:59 PM PST by x
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To: Viennacon

I don’t know what kind of status Scotland is aiming for, but independence-independence doesn’t have to be the goal for Scotland or Wales. They might wish to remain under the same royal head of state but with their own national assemblies. If they get large subsidies from the prosperous English South that may not be a wise alternative for them, but it did seem presumptuous to me for the newspaper to assume that England and Wales would still want to fly the same flag if major changes were in the works.


59 posted on 12/05/2013 5:38:38 PM PST by x
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To: x

If both the UK and Scotland become EU members, then does anything really change all that much?


60 posted on 12/05/2013 5:39:37 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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