Posted on 12/06/2013 8:54:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Humans would still make decisions, set directions, negotiate, educate, design and build. As for jobs requiring few skills, there is a point where automation is more expensive than human labor -- unless government continues to raise wages by law.
Only government can create what you fear.
Think of what they can do now with drones. That’s frightening enough.
Only if you define ‘fit’ as intelligence only.
Beware that definition. As I said in my previous comment, Nature has a much broader definition.
It isn’t that they’re having babies in excess of their ‘place’ and therefore it’s our place to stop them from that. Or set up a system that forces them to starve. Even the bible tells the farmer not to gather up all the wheat that falls on the ground. He’s to leave it to allow the gleaners to have something too.
The problem is that intelligent people are deselecting themselves from the evolutionary island by having ‘other’ pursuits and placing greater importance on those.
And as I said in my reply to trisham, the elites view ALL of us as ‘those other people’. Robots will allow them to eliminate us with little everyday pain to their lifestyles.
Again, the problem isn’t less intelligent people having too many kids. The problem is intelligent people voluntarily deselecting themselves to pursue online gaming, sci-fi conferences, expensive high tech hobbies and just ‘me’ time to ‘think about stuff’. These habits are the true evolutionary defects.
From a long term nature standpoint, having a great immune system is far more important than being simply intelligent. Even with all the smart people working in great teaching and research institutions now, one pandemic could still wipe most of us out. And along with it, most of the smart people. Only those with a great immune system would survive.
I’m pretty sure allowing humans to select themselves and using only IQ as that selection mechanism will be a spectacularly bad idea, long term. Nature’s been doing this for billions of years. Starving the poor (by eliminating even their very ability to grow their own food by moving them forceably to the cities), and other eugenic methods are just that. Eugenics. No different than Margaret Sangar.
I get a strong vibe of that in this thread. The ‘yay robots, those stupid low iq denizens will starve to death! Special US will not because we’re smart! yay us!’.
What do you do with the majority of the population that doesn’t take care of the bots? Starve them? Feed them for free? Turn the bots on them?
In a free society, like the early Republic of Rome, suddenly gets flooded with cheap labor (in that case, slaves from Germany) that the free man can’t make a living, you have a situation that will either lead to revolution, or to the State caring for most people in order to keep them happy. In Rome, it led to both. Massive welfare and a revolution from a Republic to an Empire.
We are trending to the same place.
“You just swipe and go.”
How do you pay in cash?
Not a very good example since waiters and waiteresses in most states aren’t even paid the minimum wage. They get a fraction of the minimum wage plus tips. Obama’s raise won’t change that.
” there is now a motorized sign waving device that mimics a person waving around a sandwich board sign.”
A friend of mine has a barber shop that bought one andfor 2 weeks it brought in twice the business that his lazy person wavers did.
The only problem was after 2 weeks the city code enforcement cited him and he can’t use it any longer!
You and me both. Even now, people with no real skills or education cannot perform most jobs.Back in the day, they could do something, and at least make some money. But, those days are gone forever.
And what was that saying about the Devil and Idle hands?
“Increase SNAP, extend unemployment benefits, and tax the robots to pay for it.”
GO TO HELL!!!!
Eliminate snap, welfare and unemployment!
If you can’t figure out a way to make a living lie down and croak!
Not sure why you think only androids would be a problem. Robotic delivery systems probably could navigate easily.
“the wars of the future will not be fought like today, on land or sea. they will be fought by robots, in space, or on the tops of very tall mountains. and you soldiers will be there, doing your duty as we’ve trained you, to maintain and service these robots.”
- the simpsons
Easy to say. Till the mob turns on you and yours.
If there is nothing for people to do, and the situation becomes hopeless, revolutions happen.
That’s the reason to be well armed!
You don’t. It’s for those using a debit card or credit card.
They’ve already got that figured out. Go to Walmart and take a look at how the self-service checkout works.
uhhh....I was being sarcastic. Or illustrating how the “creative bureaucrats” really WOULD deal with this situation.
It’s time for Obama to pass an Executive Order making The Americans With No Abilities Act the law of the land!
They will not only be fewer - but - a HUGE AMOUNT FEWER! You’re probably talking about knocking over 90% of the workforce permanently out of work. And in that scenario (without a completely and radically different economic system) - that translate into being DEAD.
“After you heard President Obamas call for a hike in the minimum wage,”
Pelosi already hiked the min wage in 2007 and it was one of the reasons for the exponential increase in the UE rate. But hey, it feels good to the little guy, so let’s do it again!
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