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Get set for the rise of the machines (Robots, automation & tablets replacing human workers?)
The New York Post ^ | December 6, 2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/08/2013 2:46:54 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After you heard President Obama’s call for a hike in the minimum wage, you probably wondered the same thing I did: Was Obama sent from the future by Skynet to prepare humanity for its ultimate dominion by robots?

But just in case the question didn’t occur to you, let me explain. On Tuesday, the day before Obama called for an increase in the minimum wage, the restaurant chain Applebee’s announced that it will install iPad-like tablets at every table. Chili’s already made this move earlier this year.

With these consoles customers will be able to order their meals and pay their checks without dealing with a waiter or waitress. Both companies insist that they won’t be changing their staffing levels, but if you’ve read any science fiction, you know that’s what the masterminds of every robot takeover say: “We’re here to help. We’re not a threat.”

But the fact is, the tablets are a threat....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: employment; minimumwage; obama; unemployment
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To: T-Bird45

Exactly.

The incredible rise in productivity is the reason manufacturing is returning to the US.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 5:26:26 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some define singularity as when the machines take over the world.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 5:45:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I would say that the really big hit has already been in the office.

I do a lot of genealogy research using old censuses. It is fascinating to watch the waves of popular jobs come and go through the decades.

For example, in the nineteenth century a lot of self-supporting women were seamstresses - before factory dress wear. At the beginning of the 20th, many of their daughters became stenographers, or telephone operators, or worked in factories.

The sons of many men who had been listed as laborers, became telephone linesmen and auto mechanics.

And of course the number of clerks continued to expand for both sexes.

23 posted on 12/08/2013 5:47:04 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: T-Bird45
The people who maintain and service the robots will become highly valued, though.

Yep. You have to have ambition and mechanical aptitude for it, so the new growth industry won't help the LIVs at all.

24 posted on 12/08/2013 5:55:02 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Gaffer
Sadly ... and we really can't describe the absolute freedom we had as kids ... no bike helmets ... hell ... 3 speeds didn't come around until the late 50's early sixties ... go out at 7 or 8AM Saturday, be back around 6PM .. go wash up for supper .. no questions.

35 cent a gallon gas, a case o'beer, full gas tank, 6 guys in someones rat trap car, all for about 10 bucks.

Discovered a little tipsy by officer o'friendly on a Friday night, "Where'ye goin' Jackie-boy?" (EVERYone was jackie-boy to an Irish cop in Boston)
Get in, I'll drive ye home .... and he did.


The best I can do is direct kids to Norman Rockwell

25 posted on 12/08/2013 6:03:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Gaffer
If you think about it, unpaid tireless automatons performing services, manufacturing and other functions needed for capitalism to succeed is about the only way a socialist utopian dream could be achieved. Leeches served by robots so that none of them would have to ever work again.

"Utopia"

"slurp...slurp...slurp."


26 posted on 12/08/2013 6:10:15 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I)
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To: Pontiac
One of the prime responsibilities of a server is to ensure that the guest does not imbibe too much for their own good. If a customer orders their own drink from the table touch pad and all the server does is bring the drink this cuts the interactions with the guest in half or more.

"Would you like some more?"


27 posted on 12/08/2013 6:13:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Machines control voting outcome too.


28 posted on 12/08/2013 6:17:12 AM PST by Old Yeller (America: Under Iranian hostage since Jan. 20, 2008.)
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To: Old Yeller

While I agree with the automation ideas, it will take thousands of engineers and builders to produce the stuff. The MAJOR drawback to the whole idea is, the U.S. has lost all those skills and assets and IMO, the equipment will come from.....you guessed it, China.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 6:43:25 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: knarf
35 cent a gallon gas...

I can vividly remember gas selling for 19.9 cents per gallon in 1962. Of course, that was during a "gas war." Normally, it was 25 cents per gallon.

30 posted on 12/08/2013 7:04:41 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Pontiac

“Automation” means that you’ll blow into a device before you ca order another drink ... :-) ...


31 posted on 12/08/2013 8:08:17 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: BCW

Ummm ... I’ve actually been looking for a device like this for my iPad ... :-) ...


32 posted on 12/08/2013 8:09:50 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had a conversation re: this with my nephew (an engineer, mostly conservative) not too long ago.

Because of technology will we ultimately face a future with less "jobs" than we need? Systemic unemployment.

We all are not engineers and programmers. A good chunk of the world does not have the intellect to, even, be trained to perform higher skilled jobs even if the numbers were there.

Will there be enough wealth created to pay people to do, essentially, nothing?

How is that fair to the guy who CAN and does sit and code 12 hours a day?

Or will there be unseen service orientated jobs to support these new technologies?

I do seriously wonder about this. Ofcourse, it could all be for naught and the NWO may very well herd us ll into districts like the Hunger Games and it won't even be an issue. (:

33 posted on 12/08/2013 8:16:28 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: jonrick46

Is this a real machine that exists today? If so, can you send me a link? Thank you


34 posted on 12/08/2013 8:48:50 AM PST by Cottonbay
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To: Star Traveler; UCANSEE2; jsanders2001; 2ndDivisionVet
“Automation” means that you’ll blow into a device before you ca order another drink ... :-) ...

Seriously I can see it coming to that

But using such a devise as a customer in my mind would be foolish.

Remembering that a computer never forgets anything with out extensive deliberate action by the system administrator; once you blow in that tube you have created a record of what that instrument determined that your blood alcohol level was at that time.

That record could be subpoenaed in a trial for DUI or any other cause that may come before a court action against you.

Such an automated waiter system would also require you to swipe credit card before ordering (I assume it will work very much like an automated self serve gas station) so your when you blow in the tube a blood alcohol record would be linked to your credit card. These amounts to self incrimination before the fact for public drunkenness at the very least should charges be brought against you.

I would avoid drinking at an establishment that installs such a system. I will drink at a local dive before I would use such a devise.

35 posted on 12/08/2013 8:58:44 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I should mention a minor point here - using a credit card doesn’t actually identify the person doing the swiping.

I go out and do a lot of chores for a relative (at stores) where I swipe their card at the checkout, all the time.


36 posted on 12/08/2013 9:02:43 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
I should mention a minor point here - using a credit card doesn’t actually identify the person doing the swiping.

Absolutely true.

You could also swipe your card and have someone else blow in the tube.

But the point I make is that should you be involved in some unpleasant interaction with the law you can decline to blow in the tube as a matter of your fifth amendment rights.

But should you have been drinking at an establishment that used the devise in question that record could be subpoenaed and put in to evidence against you.

You could contest that evidence but I doubt that you would win.

37 posted on 12/08/2013 9:15:38 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Star Traveler

I would think that it would “bounce” alot when typing and selecting apps???


38 posted on 12/08/2013 1:48:24 PM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

That’s why I said I was looking (present tense) - because I’ve seen that before and that’s exactly what would happen.

I may eventually come to that, if there are no alternatives - because mainly I was wanting to use it for movies, documentaries and other video presentations - where one doesn’t touch it for long periods of time. As it is right now, I lay down, put my knees up and prop the iPad at my waist.

I manage, as it is, without that, so I’m in no big hurry.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 1:58:24 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually I like the idea of ordering off the menu through a tablet. Less chance of the waiter getting my order wrong. And beer taps at the table so I can serve myself! Way cool!

Also, a text message can be sent to my table when the meal is ready. That way, I can get up and get the food from the kitchen myself while it is still hot. Just tell me where to put my dirty dishes after I'm done and that will be the perfect restaurant experience.


40 posted on 12/08/2013 2:23:19 PM PST by SamAdams76
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