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Some News From the Mount Vernon Assembly

Posted on 12/09/2013 2:52:26 AM PST by Jacquerie

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To: Jacquerie; Baynative
I know this is old hat for you two veterans of this struggle, but I find it useful to post this info for those who come to these threads uninitiated.

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I have two reference works.

The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I don't like some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see how the ruling class will try to dominate an Amendments Convention.

Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee

21 posted on 12/09/2013 10:12:46 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Jacquerie

Two-thirds of the state legislatures, or 34, must approve an application for a convention to occur, according to the Constitution’s article five. State legislatures would then send delegates to the convention, each state getting one vote on proposed amendments. For an amendment to pass and become a part of the Constitution, it would have to be approved by three-fourths, or 38, of the state legislatures.


22 posted on 12/09/2013 10:55:38 AM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: Baynative; Publius
Good on ya’ BayNative.

Of course, two questions arise. How did you come across this document and where is the rest of it?

If the process seems drawn out, which it is, perhaps it is worthwhile to recall the two plus years between the Mount Vernon conference of 1785 and the Philly convention of 1787.

I suspect the time is necessary to see and feel how strong the grassroots support for an Article V amendment convention actually is. Pols don't like to get very far at all ahead of their constituents.

Turn up the heat!

23 posted on 12/09/2013 11:09:37 AM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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To: Publius

Publius, you post the same two links to every Article V thread.

IMO, that is a good thing.

I say that because I suspect they prompt freepers to dig deeper into Article V and our history.


24 posted on 12/09/2013 11:15:37 AM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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COS Update - twitter feeds
25 posted on 12/09/2013 11:28:03 AM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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Being covered on The Blaze....

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/09/gaining-steam-nearly-100-lawmakers-descend-on-mount-vernon-to-talk-convention-of-states/


26 posted on 12/09/2013 12:09:41 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jacquerie
This (MVA) was mentioned on our local newsbreak. They skimmed over the meaning and goals of the MVA and then had a leftist *professor* remark to say why this will never happen and how it undermines our democracy.

These leftists WILL do everything in their power to stop the MVA momentum...they (leftists) ALWAYS tell us who they fear.

27 posted on 12/09/2013 12:13:12 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Progov
Originally I was looking at this as a 10-year project. From that point of view, things are already moving at lightning speed!
28 posted on 12/09/2013 12:34:27 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Jane Long

Yep, as if “democracy” is the goal, the end purpose of government. That is what they will keep hitting. I hope the good guys are prepared for this.

Is there provision at your local station for listener feedback?


29 posted on 12/09/2013 12:39:41 PM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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To: Jacquerie

bkmk


30 posted on 12/09/2013 9:02:19 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Progov
"Why wait for another year to reconvene? If this nation is going to be saved, get at it."

I agree fully! We can't afford to be patient. We don't have the next decade to get this job done.

31 posted on 12/10/2013 2:43:02 AM PST by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

bttt!


32 posted on 12/10/2013 2:43:43 PM PST by txhurl
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