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Ryan-Murray Budget Deal Eliminates Spending Cuts
Newsmax ^ | Tuesday, 10 Dec 2013 05:53 PM | Todd Beamon

Posted on 12/10/2013 3:24:59 PM PST by Olog-hai

Congressional budget negotiators have reached a two-year agreement aimed at avoiding a government shutdown on Jan. 15 and setting federal government spending levels through Oct. 1, 2015.

Democratic Senator Patty Murray and Representative Paul Ryan scheduled a news conference for 6 p.m. EST to announce the details of the deal they worked out. …

As details of a budget deal trickled out of Washington on Tuesday, conservative groups prepared to oppose any agreement that would alter the automatic spending cuts from the 2011 deal.

Republican and Democratic negotiators’ budget agreement would stop as much as $65 billion in sequestration cuts and avoid a possible federal government shutdown next month. …

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: budgetdeal; pattymurray; paulryan; ryanmurraybudget; spendingcuts
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1 posted on 12/10/2013 3:25:00 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

A “bipartisan deal”. That’s assuming of course that there are still TWO parties.


2 posted on 12/10/2013 3:27:39 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Olog-hai

Paul Ryan had way too many of us fooled in his VP campaigning.


3 posted on 12/10/2013 3:29:31 PM PST by grania
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To: Huskrrrr

And we get sold down the river again;what else is new?


4 posted on 12/10/2013 3:29:51 PM PST by pawpawrick (I had a life once but my job ate it)
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To: Olog-hai

Both parties support big government and big spending. We are going to get plenty of parsing of words and plenty of lying. There will be tax increases (they will be called fees and other increases in revenue); there will be an end to the sequester for the next two years to assuage the crony capitalists (many of them in the defense industry) and an increase in government spending balanced out by some ambiguous cuts in out years; and there will be no entitlement reform—just some cuts in federal pensions and increases in federal employee retirement contributions.


5 posted on 12/10/2013 3:32:25 PM PST by kabar
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To: Olog-hai

If you compromise with the devil, the devil wins even if it is ever so slowly.....then the devil uses it against you in the future and says you were for it too!


6 posted on 12/10/2013 3:33:23 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai

As long as there are no tax increases, I guess I’m OK with it, as I don’t think a protracted battle and any talk of another shut down help the republicans at all.

I think if the dems can be forced to agree to no tax or “revenue” increases, it’s a win for us, because that is their holy grail.


7 posted on 12/10/2013 3:34:02 PM PST by mtrott
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To: Las Vegas Ron

This was our VP candidate last year. The whole 2012 campaign was a big joke!


8 posted on 12/10/2013 3:35:24 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Olog-hai

As long as it is in the aggregate personal interest of individual reps and three term reps to spend us into bankruptcy . . .


9 posted on 12/10/2013 3:36:08 PM PST by Jacquerie (Now launch the Constitutional Spring! Support an Article V Amendment Convention.)
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To: Olog-hai

Here is my take after watching Ryan. He is every bit the damn liar that Obama is.


10 posted on 12/10/2013 3:36:29 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Olog-hai
The socialist have the RINO’s so scared of a government shut down, they are simply giving away the store to avoid a shut down.

This is why Americans’ are sooooooo fed up with this out of control administration and the RINO’s who bend over backwards to support them!

Just came out in the news, (Drudge) that numerous Republicans are in love with Obamacare!

Bi-partisan? Communist Murray and RINO Ryan, those two (2) really represent the American people, NOT! Ever wonder why the budget negotiations were conducted in secret and behind locked doors? Now you know why!

11 posted on 12/10/2013 3:36:37 PM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The grace of God is what militates against this, however.

And when the grace of God goes face to face with the blasphemies of the devil... the grace of God wins.

Satan is a laughable little runt. As far as God is concerned.


12 posted on 12/10/2013 3:37:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai

hot dog
amnesty boy
budget faker
deal maker
sells us a little
farther
down the river


13 posted on 12/10/2013 3:38:19 PM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Olog-hai
FULL SPEED AHEAD with the coming collapse! The government can NEVER do with less; the Free Stuff Army needs more, More, MORE! Print, tax, spend, rinse and repeat, in a bipartisan way!

There is a reckoning coming, and it won't be pretty. Some will die. But these politicians don't care.

14 posted on 12/10/2013 3:41:00 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: kabar

Some of that revenue Ryan thought up is charging better off seniors higher Medicare premiums to offset some of the sequester cuts.


15 posted on 12/10/2013 3:41:45 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Olog-hai

Ryan is a liberal jackass!


16 posted on 12/10/2013 3:44:35 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Olog-hai

RYAn is DEAD to me....DEAD!


17 posted on 12/10/2013 3:44:53 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: mtrott

“I don’t think a protracted battle and any talk of another shut down help the republicans at all”

Shut it down WITH ABSOLUTELY NO RETROACTIVE PAY!!!!!


18 posted on 12/10/2013 3:46:23 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Olog-hai

Whew, thank God. I was hoping we wouldn’t attempt to ever put our fiscal house in order.


19 posted on 12/10/2013 3:48:25 PM PST by mykroar (“We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again.” - Nathanael Greene)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
We already have a five tier premium system for Medicare Part B based on income levels. This is where entitlement reform is headed--mean testing for benefits.
20 posted on 12/10/2013 3:49:43 PM PST by kabar
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To: GeronL
This was our VP candidate last year. The whole 2012 campaign was a big joke!

I hear that!!

What's worse is for me Ryan made voting for Romney, ahem, palatable....I'm having a hard time trusting anyone who would enter the political arena anymore.

Something about that DC water....

21 posted on 12/10/2013 3:50:09 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Olog-hai
"Ryan-Murray"? The Glee guy?
22 posted on 12/10/2013 3:50:57 PM PST by x
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yep, Ryan was supposed to be the conservative one, at least they told us as much


23 posted on 12/10/2013 3:51:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: mtrott

As Milton Friedman said. the rate of spending is the real rate of taxation.


24 posted on 12/10/2013 3:52:06 PM PST by Hugin
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To: mtrott

I very reluctantly agree with you. We should all know that there were going to be no cuts. To do so would have compromised the 2014 elections in the eyes of the DC elite.


25 posted on 12/10/2013 3:52:14 PM PST by dforest
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To: Olog-hai

So in exchange for spending more money, what does the GOP win?


26 posted on 12/10/2013 3:52:33 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: dalereed

We need to keep our eyes on the prize—which is taking over the Senate in ‘14. The driver for taking the Senate is Obamacare, and a budget battle will take the focus off of Obamacare.


27 posted on 12/10/2013 3:52:49 PM PST by mtrott
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The grace of God is what militates against this, however.

In the end, yes, but not now here on Earth, unfortunately.

28 posted on 12/10/2013 3:53:34 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: PotatoChop

Be very careful, the news that claims GOP are in favor of Obamacare was written by a mischievous lefty. Not a good source to make the claim you are making.


29 posted on 12/10/2013 3:54:41 PM PST by dforest
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Even on earth it can make strong inroads. The trouble is that people won’t practice it.


30 posted on 12/10/2013 3:54:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai
The deal would require federal workers to make larger pension contributions

Well, now...nothing wrong with that.

31 posted on 12/10/2013 3:56:02 PM PST by what's up
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To: GeronL
Yep, Ryan was supposed to be the conservative one, at least they told us as much

The Who was smarter than I gave them credit for.

32 posted on 12/10/2013 3:57:47 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: dforest
The problem with your statement is, most Americans already knew that most if not all RINO’s have always supported Obamacare, in fact, wasn't RINO Romney who ran for President on “repeal and REPLACE?”

The RINO establishment only want to tinker around the edges of Obamacare, they are in fact in love with the idea of controlling every Americans healthcare, don't be fooled, the RINO’s love Obamacare, they are going to hide this fact from the American people, much like they hide their desire to grant amnesty to more than 40 million Mexican Nationals who have illegally entered this Country!

Enough said!

33 posted on 12/10/2013 3:59:59 PM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The trouble is that people won’t practice it.

The Earth was given to Satan, our redemption it the acceptance of Christ as the Savior.

Yes we can fight, but the outcome is inevitable.

34 posted on 12/10/2013 4:00:32 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mtrott

In the long run the budget is far more important!

I don’t give a rats ass about health insurance.

Get government completely put of medicine and eliminate all health insurance and return to what health care was when i was growing up, get sick, got to doctor or hospital and pay for it.

health care was good and cheap.


35 posted on 12/10/2013 4:03:02 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Satan wasn’t Satan when the earth was first given to him.


36 posted on 12/10/2013 4:04:22 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: PotatoChop

Might be true, but what is the alternative? I guess we give up because so far I see no reaction to the tree of liberty being chopped down to its last branch. Not from Congress and nothing from the citizens so far. Crickets are chirping.

What do you suggest? A fair election? *snort*


37 posted on 12/10/2013 4:04:38 PM PST by dforest
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To: Olog-hai
The Earth was turned over to Satan after Adam and Eve fell, no?

If I am wrong, please correct me.

38 posted on 12/10/2013 4:10:11 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: dforest
We can start by recognizing who the RINO’s are, and vote them out of office, along with all socialist who are bringing down this Nation.

Begin the Article 5 State process for submitting proposed amendments to the US Constitution for adoption by the States so this can never happen again!

In example: term limits for Supreme Court Justices; no more run away administrations like the EPA, IRS, etc.

Repeal the 16th Amendment of the US Constitution and eliminate the IRS, stop feeding the beast!

Stop supporting the RINO’s and eliminate all socialist from public office all the way down to dog catcher at the local level!

At least that is a start!

39 posted on 12/10/2013 4:12:21 PM PST by PotatoChop (Respect is earned, not demanded by this out of control socialist government!)
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To: Olog-hai

Paul Ryan is a lightweight. He demonstrated this in his “debate” with that other moron Biden.


40 posted on 12/10/2013 4:14:34 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Olog-hai

Why cut spending when you can just print more money? Geez, these people don’t have a responsible clue.


41 posted on 12/10/2013 4:15:38 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Olog-hai

They kicked the can down the road again, so what’s new?


42 posted on 12/10/2013 4:16:24 PM PST by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Hell is the only irrevocable chattel of Satan. The earth is a battle ground, and things in it need not be yielded to Satan, though weak Christians often cede it as a result of overly wooden theology. Think: if the earth were entirely Satan’s, there would not be any healings. It only “belongs to Satan” in a relative sense. The New Testament term “world” is more closely aligned with what Satan actually does rule.


43 posted on 12/10/2013 4:18:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ann Archy

Can the Wisconsites do a Recall on this Benedict Arnold? He will probably not get reelected as there are numerous veterans in his district. janesville is still reeling from the GM Auto plant closure. years ago Parker pen closed. what industry is left in Janesville? it has been many years since i have been through Janesville.

Janesville is probably like the UP of Michigan deadville.


44 posted on 12/10/2013 4:21:08 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Let me put it more boldly: you are afraid to claim Christ’s conquering power. Friends we make with the mammon of unrighteousness WILL greet us in heavenly dwellings. The ephemeral stuff will go away, but that’s not what is important.


45 posted on 12/10/2013 4:26:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: PotatoChop

uh huh. In case you haven’t noticed, the elections are rigged now and nobody will do a thing to stop it. Pipe dreams.


46 posted on 12/10/2013 4:28:18 PM PST by dforest
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I don't disagree with what you're writing, but it's a conversation that is too involved to get into on a forum.

I'll just say God Bless and continue to fight for what's right in the spirit of The Light...I know you will too FRiend!!

47 posted on 12/10/2013 4:28:47 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: andyk

So in exchange for spending more money, what does the GOP win?


Their big donors get pork. Oink oink.


48 posted on 12/10/2013 4:38:55 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Olog-hai
So the article says this spending that Ryan negotiated out of the budget, the Dems are simply going to pass separately later. Typical.

Murray also said that congressional leaders are discussing the possibility of extending some expiring federal benefits for the long-term unemployed but that such legislation will not be included in the two-year budget deal.

49 posted on 12/10/2013 4:41:04 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
you are afraid to claim Christ’s conquering power.

BTW, Christ didn't come to conquer, he came to show the way:

"No one comes to the Father but through me...."

50 posted on 12/10/2013 4:44:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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