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Cruz Walks Out on Castro Speech at Memorial Service for Mandela
National Review Online ^ | 12/10/13 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 12/10/2013 6:28:07 PM PST by bigtoona

Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas) walked out of the memorial service for Nelson Mandela when Cuban “president” Raúl Castro began speaking.

“Senator Cruz very much hopes that Castro learns the lessons of Nelson Mandela,” said Sean Rushton, Cruz’s communications director. “For decades, Castro has wrongly imprisoned and tortured countless innocents. Just as Mandela was released after 27 years in prison, Castro should finally release his political prisoners; he should hold free elections, and once and for all set the Cuban people free.”

Earlier in the day, President Obama shook hands with Castro.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: castrospeech; cruz; cruz4prez; mandelamemorial
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People were doubting Cruz earlier for going to the funeral. He's the real deal, wake up people.
1 posted on 12/10/2013 6:28:07 PM PST by bigtoona
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To: bigtoona

One can but hope.


2 posted on 12/10/2013 6:29:41 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: bigtoona

If he REALLY wants to prove a point he will walk out of the State of the Union Address.

Now THAT would be something to see.


3 posted on 12/10/2013 6:32:03 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: bigtoona

Man who helped torture his dad. Not surprised.


4 posted on 12/10/2013 6:32:04 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: bigtoona

Thank you, Sen. Cruz, for walking out of the speech instead of shaking hands with the murderer.


5 posted on 12/10/2013 6:33:37 PM PST by oblomov
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To: bigtoona

Bump


6 posted on 12/10/2013 6:35:26 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: bigtoona

Cruz took flak for going to the funeral. I know Mandela was a communist and personally I was hoping all Republicans/conservatives would STFU in regards to making statements about him. But what is to be gained in speaking out against him when you know most of the sheeple and the MSM are worshipping him. Better just to pay respects instead of saying something that will just be taken out of context by the liberal media. Cruz did the right thing here.


7 posted on 12/10/2013 6:35:37 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: bigtoona

courageous unashamed and RIGHT.

Kudos to him!


8 posted on 12/10/2013 6:38:11 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: bigtoona

OK, but Nelson Mandela was a buddy of Fidel Castro, and held him up as an example of how to set up a government. So why is Ted attending the funeral of a Castro-admirer and then complaining when a Castro speaks?


9 posted on 12/10/2013 6:39:01 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How does one take Mandela out of context?

Can you take necklacing out of context?

Can you take terrorism out of context?

Can you take attempting to overthrow the Nasionale Party government out of context?

Mandela was violent and was sent to prison for acts designed to destroy a government.


10 posted on 12/10/2013 6:40:54 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: bigtoona

I suspect if Ted Cruz runs for president, half the conservatives here will refuse to vote because he’s not “conservative enough”.


11 posted on 12/10/2013 6:41:59 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: oblomov
Mandela once cheering, “‘Long live Comrade Fidel Castro!’” Mandela referred to Gaddafi as “‘my brother leader” and Arafat as “‘a comrade in arms.’”

And what is Mandela’s legacy to his native South Africa? It is the purpose of Mercer’s book to show that it is nothing to write home about. “Since he [Mandela] came to power in 1994, approximately 300,000 people have been murdered.” “Bit by barbaric bit,” she writes, “South Africa is being dismantled by official racial socialism, obscene levels of crime—organized and disorganized—AIDS, corruption, and an accreting kleptocracy.”

12 posted on 12/10/2013 6:43:58 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I suspect if Ted Cruz runs for president, half the conservatives here will refuse to vote because he’s not “conservative enough”.

_____________________

The collective IQ seems to have diminished in the past year.


13 posted on 12/10/2013 6:44:25 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I like him a lot, but I am nervous that his wife is a managing director at Goldman Sachs (aka the evil empire of finance)


14 posted on 12/10/2013 6:46:09 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: bigtoona

Maybe this was the reason he attended the funeral. Can’t blame him.


15 posted on 12/10/2013 6:48:08 PM PST by Wage Slave
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To: nascarnation
I like him a lot, but I am nervous that his wife is a managing director at Goldman Sachs (aka the evil empire of finance)


16 posted on 12/10/2013 6:48:42 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: bigtoona

Ted Cruz showed great & good character by walking out when Raúl Castro was to speak.

Obama on the other hand shows his complete lack of character by shaking the murderer’s hand while giving him a semi bow down.


17 posted on 12/10/2013 6:51:01 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: River Hawk

Someone who is more perfect than all of us took his message directly to the beast. If you were to use a reflex of thought rather than ridicule, you might figure it out.


18 posted on 12/10/2013 6:53:56 PM PST by mazda77
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To: Talisker

The NYT was ragging on him for having the deluxe health bennies at Goldman rather than signing up for Obamacare.


19 posted on 12/10/2013 6:54:04 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

Better that than a bonafide member of the communist party, I think. When you have no other choice, the right thing is in fact the lesser of two evils, because choosing nothing is through inaction a choice for the greater evil. I said that the last election, and was roundly disagreed with by those who thought inaction was the better choice. Are they happy now?


20 posted on 12/10/2013 6:54:31 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I’m not suggesting it’s a problem.
Maybe she’s there as a undercover agent.
2016 is a ways off yet.


21 posted on 12/10/2013 6:58:00 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: mazda77

Chill out. Why do you insult me when I have a legitimate question? My question is, why should Ted be surprised at the funeral of a friend and fan of the Castro regime to see one of the Castros give a speech?


22 posted on 12/10/2013 6:59:40 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: mazda77

And saying “someone who is more perfect than all of us” is way out of line. I have the right to question Ted Cruz like any other politician.


23 posted on 12/10/2013 7:01:42 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: Oliviaforever

I’m not excusing Mandela for what he did. I’m just talking about his passing. There’s nothing to be gained for conservatives/Republicans to denounce Mandela, although they shouldn’t wax eloquently about him either.


24 posted on 12/10/2013 7:04:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: River Hawk

From my understanding, it is because of R Castro imprisoned Ted Cruz’s father. It’s a personal thing.


25 posted on 12/10/2013 7:04:54 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Maybe so, but then why be such a Mandela fan then?


26 posted on 12/10/2013 7:06:06 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rather than getting into the whole Mandela hysteria, how about just issuing a short statement such as “I express my condolences to the family of Nelson Mandela, former president of South Africa. I understand the great admiration his people felt for him and I wish the nation of South Africa the best.” Or something like that. Then get back to the Budget or something like that.


27 posted on 12/10/2013 7:08:55 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: nascarnation

It’s just a big nefariously nepotistic empire.


28 posted on 12/10/2013 7:09:57 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: River Hawk
Maybe this will help:

The Cruz/Mandela Dilemma (Vanity)

29 posted on 12/10/2013 7:11:16 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: bigtoona

I’m not here to dump on Cruz, but I would never attend the funeral of a man like Mandela. At taxpayer expense? Nope! If I could snap my fingers and show up at no cost, I not only wouldn’t walk across the street to attend, I wouldn’t snap my fingers to.


30 posted on 12/10/2013 7:11:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: unixfox
THAT would be gravitas.
31 posted on 12/10/2013 7:12:00 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I really like Senator Cruz but in my opinion this is the first disappointing, non conservative act he has made. Wasting taxpayers money to attend that circus just to appease a voting block doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy. At least he stuck it to one commie while there.


32 posted on 12/10/2013 7:13:25 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: bigtoona
Yes, I still drool.
33 posted on 12/10/2013 7:14:48 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Oliviaforever
"Mandela was violent and was sent to prison for acts designed to destroy a government."

Oh my gosh! (Rewind to 1776...)

34 posted on 12/10/2013 7:15:13 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: River Hawk

There were, how many, eighty world leaders at this funeral? Whatever our opinion of Mandela may be, that is not what his reputation is. I doubt that will change, any more than Lincoln’s will, whatever the truth may be.


35 posted on 12/10/2013 7:15:25 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“There’s nothing to be gained for conservatives/Republicans to denounce Mandela...”

Only the truth.


36 posted on 12/10/2013 7:16:27 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Thanks for the link!


37 posted on 12/10/2013 7:19:58 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“the right thing is in fact the lesser of two evils, because choosing nothing is through inaction a choice for the greater evil”

Wow, that gobbledygook sounds a lot like that “the perfect is the enemy of the good” horsepoo that was slung around here last fall, trying to get conservatives to compromise their principles.
And I suspect we’ll see it again, since we’re seeing it now.

I don’t care if Goldwater came back in a toga on a chariot trailing flame: If he walked and talked like a CINO I’d be hooting him. Same with Giuliania, Romney, Rubio, Bush or any flavor of the month.
If Cruz stays a conservative, he keeps my support. If you don’t like that, too bad.

Forget the pussyfooting and try this one for size: `In matters of taste, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.’ T. Jefferson
Maybe if we tried adhering to that, the GOP might stop caulking our conservative butts with birdlime come election time, for money and support, then ignoring us—if not ridiculing us—the rest of the time.


38 posted on 12/10/2013 7:20:06 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: RobbyS

There are several issues at work here.
Mandela was a famous world leader, so it’s not surprising his funeral would be a big deal. Not at all surprising Obama and former presidents would attend.
As for Cruz, I just think he laid it on a Little thick on Mandela then making a big show by walking out on Raul Castro. It was good theater all right.


39 posted on 12/10/2013 7:22:04 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: River Hawk

Sure, question all you want and way out of line is not what I call referencing someone who used his faith to try and change others rather than to shun them. Wise up.


40 posted on 12/10/2013 7:25:58 PM PST by mazda77
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Nobody has to speak out against him, they would never be given the time to make their case anyway. But there’s no good reason for any of them to give credence to the lie that is Mandela.

What this whole affair has shown me is that Republicans fear the truth as much as leftists despise it.


41 posted on 12/10/2013 7:26:05 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (If you don't stand up, you don't stand a chance.)
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To: Oliviaforever

“Can you take attempting to overthrow the Nasionale Party government out of context?”

Attempting to overthrow the National Party government was a good thing.


42 posted on 12/10/2013 7:32:46 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sorry. Nelson “michelin” mandela was a terrorist and a communist. Ted Cruz should have stayed home.


43 posted on 12/10/2013 7:34:27 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: mazda77

Huh?


44 posted on 12/10/2013 7:34:39 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I’m getting a hunch that the “conservatives” who think he’s “not conservative enough” aren’t “conservatives” at all.


45 posted on 12/10/2013 7:35:34 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

No, I’ll support him if he runs. But I certainly question his judgement of times. Attending the funeral of a terrorist would be one of those times.


46 posted on 12/10/2013 7:36:35 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: JennysCool

Are you saying Ted Cruz is exempt from criticism or even questioning? Isn’t that how the GOP went wrong with Bush?


47 posted on 12/10/2013 7:37:27 PM PST by River Hawk
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To: River Hawk

Hmm ...


48 posted on 12/10/2013 7:38:31 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: MV=PY

>> Oh my gosh! (Rewind to 1776...)

Relating the Founding Fathers to a necklacing communist doesn’t work.


49 posted on 12/10/2013 7:38:53 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nascarnation
I like him a lot, but I am nervous that his wife is a managing director at Goldman Sachs (aka the evil empire of finance)

I like "The Vampire Squid".

50 posted on 12/10/2013 7:39:46 PM PST by Stentor
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