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SNOWDEN: NSA'S INDISCRIMINATE SPYING 'COLLAPSING'
AP ^ | December 17, 2013 | Bradley Brooks

Posted on 12/17/2013 6:40:24 AM PST by Biggirl

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden wrote in a lengthy "open letter to the people of Brazil" that he's been inspired by the global debate ignited by his release of thousands of National Security Agency documents, and that the NSA's culture of indiscriminate global espionage "is collapsing."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathtospies; edwardsnowden; nsa; snowden; spying; wikileaks
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve had several dealings with FISA and know they understand that FISA is just so the government can say they had a warrant. The only litmus test they use is, “Can this be overturned in a public court?” That’s it.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 7:24:48 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Biggirl

It is critical for conservatives to know that the NSA is *not* alone in conducting 4th Amendment violating surveillance against the American public.

The FBI used to use a system called CARNIVORE, to monitor all email and electronic communications, but because of the public outcry broke it into subsystems that are FAR more powerful and invasive. The largest of these subsystems is called NarusInsight, made by Narus, a wholly owned subsidiary of Boeing.

The FBI and Secret Service also have access to the commercial systems data stream, based in CALEA, the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (1994), which creates back doors in communications and Internet companies, allowing federal agencies to monitor all telephone, broadband internet, and VoIP traffic in real-time.

DHS runs ADVISE (Analysis, Dissemination, Visualization, Insight, and Semantic Enhancement), a massive data mining system, that takes vast amounts of surveillance data and tries to link it together. (Thus proving that you are just five degrees away from Kevin Bacon or Osama bin Laden.)

DHS also runs 72 “fusion centers”, where data from numerous government agencies, including the CIA, Department of the Census, FBI, the Pentagon, HHS, Education, and Depts of “you name it”, are all shared, guaranteeing that vast amounts of totally bogus and worthless data about you are not just shared, but copied perfectly. “Our records indicate that you are a 103-year-old black woman. You cannot prove otherwise.”

PRISM - Finally the NSA gets involved. (PRISM is a government codename for a data collection effort known officially as US-984XN.)


22 posted on 12/17/2013 7:30:33 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: Biggirl
I heard some guy yesterday calling Snowden a traitor...yada yada yada.

The fella indicated Snowden should have gone to his direct reports/superiors to express his concerns. If that did not give results, Snowden should have gone to his congressman and claimed whistleblower status.

Yea, right. I thunk to my-seff. Snowden would be Brietbarted if he'd taken that route and he damn well knew it.

I think Snowden did the American people a HUGE service. This gubbamint needs the big ol reset button.

Ya don't trample the rights of the people, shred the constitution to catch a few rag heads with underwear fireworks...come on.

I fully support Snowden. He will turn out someday to be an American hero against an out of control federal behemoth.

23 posted on 12/17/2013 7:33:09 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Biggirl
Gimme a ticket to Moscow (I'll fly coach) and an M-14.I'll shut him up for good.
24 posted on 12/17/2013 7:36:53 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: servantboy777

The fella indicated Snowden should have gone to his direct reports/superiors to express his concerns. If that did not give results, Snowden should have gone to his congressman and claimed whistleblower status.

Yea, right. I thunk to my-seff. Snowden would be Brietbarted if he’d taken that route and he damn well knew it.
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The thing that struck me so forcefully the first day I heard this, was that Snowden would have been able to see who was dirty or clean in all three branches of government. He DID NOT FIND ONE PERSON that would be clean and trustworthy at the top of the Executive, Judicial or Congressional branches. Sort of takes one’s breath away.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 7:44:20 AM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You are a fool or agent provocateur. Give me a face to face with you. I don’t need no stinkin firearms to let you know what I think of you.


26 posted on 12/17/2013 7:45:10 AM PST by at bay ("no warrant shall be issued except upon probable cause")
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To: Gay State Conservative

Punishing Snowden is a great way to discourage anyone else from coming forward to warn us when they find out about secret federal government tyranny and constitutional violations.

So many people inside the government knew and looked the other way. Snowden risked everything to tell the American people the truth. He’s a hero.


27 posted on 12/17/2013 7:46:27 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Biggirl

Except the judge delayed his verdict and instead offered his opinion because he believes the gov’t will appeal. So, AFAIC, it was a big, fat, nothing burger.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 7:49:09 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Biggirl
I think Snowden must have some VERY damaging information on these people. Otherwise, why would they be wanting to make a deal with him?

Of course if he does make a deal he will wind up dead in an "accident".

Sure, I trust the government. Like I trust a scorpion.

29 posted on 12/17/2013 7:55:44 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Biggirl

This is not a movie. He literally holds the tools to destroy our entire intelligence apparatus. For good, ill, or otherwise.


30 posted on 12/17/2013 8:20:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

This is not a movie. He literally holds the tools to destroy our entire intelligence apparatus. For good, ill, or otherwise

True enough. Personally, I'm calling it an overall win for the American people. I care not what his motivations are. Ultimately, throwing light on the "national security" apparatus is good for us.

 

31 posted on 12/17/2013 8:51:18 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Chickensoup
Uh....yea!

Read an article this morning in regards to the courts ruling on NSA spying likely unconstitutional.

Larry Klayman, one of the fellas that filed the suit is now indicating the spooks are jacking with his private accounts, JUST TO LET HIM KNOW, they can reach out and touch him.

WOW! Now that's F’d up right there. Here's the founder of Judicial watch, attempting to protect the American people against an out of control gubbamint...and he gets intimidated by the NSA.

Are we really FREE?

32 posted on 12/17/2013 9:09:35 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Biggirl

The NSA has become the enemy of the citizens of this county. I’m for Snowden.


33 posted on 12/17/2013 10:32:55 AM PST by bkopto
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To: servantboy777

“Larry Klayman, one of the fellas that filed the suit is now indicating the spooks are jacking with his private accounts, JUST TO LET HIM KNOW, they can reach out and touch him.”

I knew some people in the USSR who were targeted by spooks just to send a message.

Back then they would break into the target’s home without a trace and do subtle things that only the target would notice. Swapping silverware, moving furniture, etc. Just to show they know everything about you and can get you any time.

It feels more like my former home here every day...


34 posted on 12/17/2013 10:33:42 AM PST by varyouga
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To: Biggirl

I dunno. This Snowden feller is a DANGEROUS reactionary. One of his colleagues told us that Snowden used to keep a copy of the Constitution on his desk at work...


35 posted on 12/17/2013 10:44:13 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Biggirl
The NSA just got a big body blow yesterday in court ruling.

Nah. Reid & O**** just got done stacking the DC Courts of Appeals, where the injunction is being appealed.

36 posted on 12/17/2013 10:45:30 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

At least the NSA will be at least weakened.


37 posted on 12/17/2013 10:46:49 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Gay State Conservative; at bay; JediJones
Gimme a ticket to Moscow (I'll fly coach) and an M-14.I'll shut him up for good.

Don't forget to wipe your bum with the copy of the Constitution that Snowden keeps around, urinate on it, and then burn it.

You'll have imitated your owners perfectly...

38 posted on 12/17/2013 10:50:57 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Biggirl

There IS that. :-)


39 posted on 12/17/2013 10:51:51 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: unixfox
Otherwise, why would they be wanting to make a deal with him?

Because he's giving away all our intelligence to Russia.

Amazing how few people get this. A guy who seeks refuge in Russia and Venezuela is now a hero? Get real.

40 posted on 12/17/2013 11:25:17 AM PST by what's up
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