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New image of a Russian Tu-22M Backfire with cruise missile emerges
The Aviationist ^ | Dec 16, 2013 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 12/17/2013 12:26:05 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Not many images showing the KH-22, a large, long-range cruise missile developed by the Soviet Union to target U.S. Navy aircraft carriers with a conventional or nuclear warhead, can be found on the Internet.

Those that you can find if you Google “KH-22″ are mainly old ones, hence a recent clear air-to-air image showing a Tu-22M Backfire flying with a couple of missiles that are dubbed AS-4 “Kitchen” by NATO, deserve a mention.

The photograph in this post was uploaded on the Russianplanes.net portal by a user using the nickname “White” and shows the Tu-22 flying with two KH-22s (most probably upgraded to the KH-32 version, which features new seeker head and rocket motor), capable to reach a top speed of about Mach 5 and a range around 700 km.

One missile is clearly visible under the port wing, the other one is probably carried on the starboard underwing pylon.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; cruisemissile; kh22; russia; tu22
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1 posted on 12/17/2013 12:26:06 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m doubting the speed and range numbers.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 12:27:28 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Also, they make an AWAC’s killer version that I also doubt on.


3 posted on 12/17/2013 12:28:04 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

“I’m doubting the speed and range numbers.”

If they just said Mach 1 and 300 miles, I’d be impressed. But Mach 5 and 700 klicks are Star Trek numbers.


4 posted on 12/17/2013 12:30:43 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: AppyPappy

I’m with you on that. I don’t think the wing-mounted weapons could handle the load from Mach 5. Also, the shape is not optimal for low hypersonic speeds (as compared to the SR-71).


5 posted on 12/17/2013 12:32:31 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Gen.Blather

your forgetting the no power glide...

Once it runs out of fuel, it will coast at 500Km/h for a minute or two


6 posted on 12/17/2013 12:34:02 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: AppyPappy
I should have read more closely. They are talking about the missiles and not the aircraft. I still agree with you, but nevermind.
7 posted on 12/17/2013 12:34:38 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Gen.Blather

When you are traveling Mach 5, there’s not a lot of room for error. A hit with anything would be fatal to the mission because that piece of shrapnel from the AA is also traveling into you at Mach 5.
Then there is the whole friction, heat and metal decay thing.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 12:35:39 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

If mach 5 then that is less then a 10 minute burn time. sounds reasonable to me.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 12:41:55 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I don’t know anything about the “Backfire” but it looks nice. Also looks pretty big.


10 posted on 12/17/2013 12:46:57 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Ahhhh....looks like B1-ski, seems the Soviets have
stolen / bought everything since the early '60s onward.

11 posted on 12/17/2013 12:47:22 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Ugly looking missiles,, like a buzz bomb with no fins.. Oh wait, the fins probably pop out after they get dropped loose.. huh? Probably made in China.

Thanks for all your posts on the technological achievements and attempts from ‘over there’ and here too!


12 posted on 12/17/2013 12:47:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Dang eyes, it does have fins,, never mind.


13 posted on 12/17/2013 12:48:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Where is the air intake for the jet engines?


14 posted on 12/17/2013 12:50:51 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: jps; HappyPappy; All; neverdem; narses; SunkenCiv; CPOSharky; Nachum

Ah, BUT you are fogetting several iportant things: A simple guided-at-low-power-flight + terminal-very-high-speed-boost + very-high-”spray” of even a destroyed-missile (shrapnel” WILL mission-kill ANY destroyer ship it can target.

That the missile IS very-high speed contoured reduces heat loads, but if the very-high speed were only for the terminal boost phase (when the precision control and guidance” is NOT as crucial as in the long-range low-powered guidance phase) then the 2 or 4 minutes that it is at very high temperature can be withstood even by common aerospace materials. Also, a high-altitude (near space IRBM mode) cycle also reduces the heat created by very high-speed friction. Little atmosphere? Little friction. Not much guidance either from wings, but that means little if the missile is only in terminal phase. The last-little-bit of flight is short time, so the target can’t go very far.

Alternate: Low or medium power controlled flight plus a “IRBM ballistic terminal boost phase. Very high speed, very low range, plus an in-near-space glide phase that “coasts” while using little fuel.

A not-even-close” nuke explosion would take out the “topside” aircraft and crew servicing those aircraft, plus radars and controls for what survive.

Topside damage would knock out UNREP and supply ships - which is a mission kill in days.


15 posted on 12/17/2013 12:55:25 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: kosciusko51
They are talking about the missiles and not the aircraft.

I'm sure glad we got that straightened out.

16 posted on 12/17/2013 12:56:09 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Gen.Blather

TU-22 Blinder which is what this says it is has a passing resemblance to the aircraft in the pic. The TU-22 was a medium bomber introduced in the early ‘60s. Even if this is a derivative of the old plane no way is it Mach 5 platform. The mission may be but not the aircraft.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:40 PM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Mildly related, but I trained on simulations of nukes in missles going off horizontally at mach 2,3,4, etc.

Made one heck of a concentrated “tube” of energy, even when a small weapon was fired at relatively slow speed (e.g., Davey Crocket artillery).

I have zero doubt these are already in place to destroy US carriers.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:56 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: yarddog

Our tomahawk has a “pop-down” air scoop for its cruise mode.

If this is similar, why drag along a permanent “air scoop” when you’re just flying attached to another aircraft. A pop-down air inlet also prevents air from cycling through the engine continuously, which also add drag. If it were a “rocket” configuration (self-contained” oxidizer and fuel, then no scoop is needed at all. But it is unlikely a long-range missile that size would carry its own oxidizer, UNLESS it were IRBIM-configured (above atmosphere) powered flight after a “boost phase” from the airplane launching it upwards.

The X-15 after all, could be a interceptor missile (once) but it has a very short range.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:59 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Does today's Russian Air Force still sport the Red Star on the tail as pictured?
20 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:59 PM PST by NorCoGOP (Revolution at the ballot box, 2014.)
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