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Federal Judge: Right to Same-Sex Marriage Is 'Deeply Rooted in Nation’s History and Implicit
cnsnews.com ^ | 12/21/13 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 12/21/2013 3:50:17 PM PST by ColdOne

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To: chris37

Exactly. The state is gonna do what it does best, create more things for it to license and manage.

The state aknowledging the “right” of gay marriage shouldn’t be the issue, the issue should be well grounded Christians and other religeous denominations aquiescing to the state “sanctifying” their marriage rituals via license, a practice that originally arose from the body politic wanting to prohibit miscengenation amongst the races...


41 posted on 12/21/2013 5:10:08 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

My personal feeling is this: Why not opt out of getting the marriage license, just file for the other benefits, some of which don’t have to do with marriage separately. Again, it’s also legit separation of church and state as well. I don’t have to consider the state licensing sacred, but rather secular, to me by doing it this way. More paperwork, sure. But faithful to my own beliefs, definitely.


42 posted on 12/21/2013 5:17:19 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009

because that doesn’t push forward the agenda of destroying the foundations of our society


43 posted on 12/21/2013 5:19:48 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Axenolith

Why should licensing be a real concern right now, when the underemployment/unemployment is a drain on the national budget? When having a kid pretty much means, with a few very well-off exceptions, ending up indebted to the state because they need food stamps to raise their child. We have become a bread and circus nation, where at this point, we need a virtual reality to get our eyes off the real world, because honestly, it’s not pretty.


44 posted on 12/21/2013 5:20:04 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: blackdog

Very likely true. How much can you get from a divorce settlement as a lawyer?


45 posted on 12/21/2013 5:21:50 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: ColdOne

What a blasphemous prick!


46 posted on 12/21/2013 5:23:20 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: ColdOne

And, yet, I’d presume, this same idiot would gavel to uphold any/all ‘sensible gun control’ laws

Were there any citing in that decree? Black robed tyrants


47 posted on 12/21/2013 5:25:37 PM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: ColdOne

Something ELSE is deep rooted in American History and Tradition, REBELLION against TYRANTS.


48 posted on 12/21/2013 5:25:53 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Morpheus2009
40-ish couple with no kids and $500,000 in assets to split?

It's gonna run you $10k each party to the settlement.

49 posted on 12/21/2013 5:48:39 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: mulligan

“Where do these idiots come from?”

Anal sex, that is where they come from.

How else did you think they were conceived?


50 posted on 12/21/2013 5:55:50 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - Because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: ColdOne

Betcha the judge likes to pack a little fudge now and then.


51 posted on 12/21/2013 5:55:51 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Diogenesis

Or any country’s history.


52 posted on 12/21/2013 6:01:50 PM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: SandRat
That Judge and the entire Obama Dummie=Rats are Beyond stupid.

They are not stupid, they are evil and committed to the service of it.

53 posted on 12/21/2013 6:04:40 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Axenolith

To the state in the modern era, the definition of marriage is simply whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority think it is at any one time. That’s it, the state can’t get the definition any other way. It could be the actual definition or some impossibility like ‘gay marriage.’ Pope Leo XIII warned about this 130 years ago, in the context of civil divorce and remarriage. If you would have explained the concept of state recognized ‘gay marriage’ to him his mitre would have spun off his head. Makes you wonder what other impossibilities the state will be considering marriage in another 130 years.

Freegards


54 posted on 12/21/2013 6:05:03 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: allendale

I think Ronald Reagan appointed Anthony Kennedy because he wanted to get Gerald Ford to say something nice about him. What other nreason could there be; was Nancy pushing for a “Ford Republican” nominee?


55 posted on 12/21/2013 6:06:29 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: cva66snipe

The American people will hardly run someone out of town on a rail whose politics they endorse!


56 posted on 12/21/2013 6:09:37 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: ColdOne

no same sex marriage can ever be recognized by the Catholic Church....under any circumstances....because the marriage cannon be consummated....even between hetrosexuals this is true....


57 posted on 12/21/2013 6:27:11 PM PST by terycarl (common sense rules overall)
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To: ColdOne
RE :”Judge Robert J. Shelby, whom President Barack Obama appointed to the U.S. District Court in Utah last year, issued an opinion on Friday declaring that a right to same-sex marriage is “deeply rooted in the nation’s history and implicit in the concept of ordered liberty.”

That answers my question.

Lib justices see themselves as Kings.

58 posted on 12/21/2013 6:49:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: bonehead4freedom

Little too early for the word “homosexual” in the late 1770s; it was coined in 1868 (along with “heterosexual”) by Austrian-born Hungarian journalist Karl-Maria Kertbeny.


59 posted on 12/21/2013 7:07:23 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: ColdOne; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Judge Robert J. Shelby, whom President Barack Obama appointed to the U.S. District Court in Utah last year, issued an opinion on Friday declaring that a right to same-sex marriage is "deeply rooted in the nation’s history and implicit in the concept of ordered liberty."

Look, if my very dear personal friend, Judge Shelby, says it is historical fact... he must have some very conclusive, hard, no nonsense evidence--

Of course I... have evidence and here it is straight from our very own history via Hollywood:

In the early 1950s, Superman had a same sex marriage... to a Mole Man.

Back in the 1880s, there were stable same sex marriages between three gay men... that produced offspring and a healthy family environment.

Even in Colonial times, strong Lesbian marriages... were a fact of life.

Even in Native American culture, there were same sex marriages such as that one between Little Big Man's friends... Little Horse and Younger Bear.

And lastly and most telling, In One Million B.C. the same sex marriages between men... made it possible for our culture to evolve and become the caring, non-judgemental, genderless society the American people demanded in electing and re-electing our messiah and savior Barack Obama!

Well, you just cannot argue... in face of that irrefutable evidence, can you?

60 posted on 12/21/2013 7:12:43 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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