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Vladimir Putin, Conservative Icon
The Atlantic ^ | Dec 20, 2013 | Brian Whitmore

Posted on 12/21/2013 6:35:03 PM PST by Innovative

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To: Innovative

Don’t be fooled by Putin. He is a wolf in sheep clothing.


61 posted on 12/22/2013 5:14:28 AM PST by mware
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To: Cyber Liberty
Look around the world, where there's instability either Putin's Russia or Iran is behind it.

Ok..let's go to Syria. Did the Russia or Iran destabilize the government there?

62 posted on 12/22/2013 7:01:55 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Cyber Liberty
How about Egypt or Libya?

Were the Russians and Iranians behind that as well?

63 posted on 12/22/2013 7:06:10 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Syria: Russia’s for years. Only the willfully stupid don’t know Syria is a Russian client state, has been since the 40’s.

Egypt: Iran or Obama. Take your pick.

I am choosing to have a day free of the fans of Pootie-put. There are now two on the fanbois list.


64 posted on 12/22/2013 8:17:35 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty; mac_truck

notice the evasion. asked if Russia destabilized Syria, Cyber Liberty answers, “Russia’s for years”. Which is true, but doesn’t answer the question — in fact, an attempt to obfuscate and squirm out of an answer..
Obviously Russia didn’t destabilize its own client state. Russia kept the US from going to war on the side of the jihadis who are destabilizing things — and maybe Cyber lib’s bummed about that.


65 posted on 12/22/2013 10:26:12 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

can’t say I disagree. Althou strictly speaking as conservatism is by definition a very much local thing. No Russian conservative is a conservative in Alabama or Virginia.

Not say there is any excuse for having enemies thrown out from windows. I can see how someone might proclaim a marriage outside of a church as being illegitimate thou, but that only makes Putin a lier or a immature fool(at the time) for exchanging vow in such a civil location.


66 posted on 12/22/2013 3:30:12 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: WilliamIII
notice the evasion. asked if Russia destabilized Syria, Cyber Liberty answers, “Russia’s for years”. Which is true, but doesn’t answer the question — in fact, an attempt to obfuscate and squirm out of an answer..Obviously Russia didn’t destabilize its own client state.

Yeah, it seems silly to suggest that Russia or Iran would intentionally destabilize a client state like Syria when it is clearly not in their interest to do so. Likewise, why would Russia or Iran bolster the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt or Libya, when MB jihadists from both countries have been actively trying to overthrow Assad?

67 posted on 12/22/2013 4:02:39 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: clearcarbon

Your know I’m starting to wonder if we should be more concerned about Islam or the Leftist in our own backyard.

What Liberals have invented with their ‘campaign’ for ‘tolerance’ AKA acceptance of Homosexual decadency as non-condemable is a real threat to the long term sustainability of our civilization particularly when combined with family distorting programs like Social Security(which removes grandparents from the child rearing process).

The result is over the last ~80 years families in the west have become smaller and less stable. While the whole of our civilization is ever more depended upon untranslatable large flows of immigration to off set the domestic demographic losses leading to greater and greater degrees of cultural conflict and dysfunction.

Unfortunately if this continues the future is going to be even more dim on a long term than we had previously supposed.


68 posted on 12/22/2013 4:23:16 PM PST by Monorprise
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