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To: kabar
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Holding your nose and voting for the GOPe will not change….

But you are using a straw argument via over simplification. Nothing is the "same thing" any more…incumbents are in trouble in primaries, which NEVER happened before about 2009. The Tea Party is active, which was launched in 2009. While there is resistance from the GOP e, there is a palpable and powerful force confronthing them….ala Cruz, Paul, Lee, etc…..and never before have we seen a single piece of legislation that will effectively end the country…Obama CAre….signed in 2010. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING is the same.

So with due respect, your entire argument is a false choice. I will join Cruz, Lee and others in the good fight, fully realizing many of our enemies also wear the "R" - I get it….that;s hardly a news flash or an original thought.

63 posted on 12/22/2013 8:12:55 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
But you are using a straw argument via over simplification. Nothing is the "same thing" any more…incumbents are in trouble in primaries, which NEVER happened before about 2009. The Tea Party is active, which was launched in 2009. While there is resistance from the GOP e, there is a palpable and powerful force confronthing them….ala Cruz, Paul, Lee, etc…..and never before have we seen a single piece of legislation that will effectively end the country…Obama CAre….signed in 2010. NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING is the same.

You underestimate the resistance of the GOPe to a possible internal takeover of the party by conservatives. I saw it firsthand here in VA with the Governor's race. The GOPe would rather lose elections than win with a conservative. They control most of the money and that has major consequences politically.

Obamacare won't end the country. It will just lead to more government control and a decline in the quality of healthcare in this country. The Dems with help from some Reps will make band-aid fixes to muffle the political impact. And the costs of the program will prove to be much greater than estimated, similar to Medicare and Medicaid. It is just another entitlement program that will add to the $90 trillion we already have in unfunded liabilities.

So with due respect, your entire argument is a false choice. I will join Cruz, Lee and others in the good fight, fully realizing many of our enemies also wear the "R" - I get it….that;s hardly a news flash or an original thought.

The GOPe runs the party. They will not cede control to the conservatives. And how many so-called conservatives do we really have in Congress. When you have Rubio, Ryan, and Paul supporting some form of amnesty, are they really conservatives? The 14 GOP senators who helped pass the Gang of 8 bill and the nine who supported the Ryan-Murray budget bill should give you an idea as to how difficult it will be to actually control the Senate or the House for that matter when it comes to passing a conservative agenda. Boehner has violated the Hastert Rule 8 times, mostly on budget issues.

I don't see my argument as being based on a false choice, but rather, on political reality. Denial just ain't a river in Egypt.

77 posted on 12/22/2013 9:08:52 AM PST by kabar
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