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U.S. Supported White Minority-Rule in South Africa
BlackVoiceNews.com ^ | Tuesday, 24 December 2013 | George E. Curry

Posted on 12/25/2013 4:58:05 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

PRETORIA, South Africa (NNPA) – President Obama and former presidents Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush flew to South Africa to pay their respects to Nelson Mandela, the country’s first democratically elected president who died on Dec. 5 at the age of 95.

At the height of South Africa’s campaign against the warrior for majority rule in South Africa, the U.S. government’s behavior was far from respectful as it supported a regime that oppressed more than 90 percent of its people.

Under South Africa’s rigid racial segregation system known as apartheid, Whites were only 5 to 10 percent of the population but allocated 87 percent of the land to themselves, forcing other racial groups – Black, Coloured, and Indian – to live in segregated homelands away from Whites in the central cities. Officials denied people of color citizenship while maintaining an all-White government, prohibited Blacks from traveling outside their overpopulated segregated homelands without a passbook and operated segregated, unequal education systems that tracked Whites for professional jobs and Blacks for menial employment.

In 1947, South Africa passed the Prohibition of Mixed Marriages Act that prohibited marriage between persons of different races. A year later, it passed the Immorality Act, which made sexual relations with a person of a different race a criminal offense. When there were Black uprisings to protest minority-rule, anti-apartheid leaders were either arrested or murdered.

Yet, the U.S., which prides itself as the world’s foremost democracy, continued to support the violent apartheid regime.

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1 posted on 12/25/2013 4:58:05 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

What a bunch of crap.

They knew the consequences of just pulling the rug from out of the SA government....chaos and civil war....Constructive Engagement was the way to go.


2 posted on 12/25/2013 4:59:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

I read a book around 20 years ago about the KGB.

One thing I recall was they were given 3 missions which were of great importance and which they placed most of their resources.

One of those was the takeover of South Africa. That included Angola, Mozambique, SW Africa as well as the country of South Africa.


3 posted on 12/25/2013 5:03:31 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Yes, how silly of us . . .


             

4 posted on 12/25/2013 5:03:39 PM PST by tomkat (refraining, with much difficulty, from further commentary)
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To: dfwgator

They’re just rewritting history, it just wouldn’t do
for the US to have played a honest helpful part of
the narrative. When they are done, no one will say
United States of America, without spitting.

When will we get tired of this?
I’m over it.


5 posted on 12/25/2013 5:03:47 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I call BS.
The divestment movement started in the '60s and was enacted by the Federal Government during the Reagan administration.

Personally, I never gave a crap. Why should we support a bunch of communist murderers anyway?

6 posted on 12/25/2013 5:06:29 PM PST by stormhill
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To: MinorityRepublican
Pure ignorance!

Andrew Young was Pres.Carter's rep in the UN at that time: He was making a lot of noise about how the indigent populations should take control of their home countries (especially South Africa) and rule as democracies - complete with unicorns, fairy dust, and lots of sparkle! This was AFTER Rhodesia went down, too ....

7 posted on 12/25/2013 5:09:44 PM PST by Ken522
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well look how well its all turned out. sarc


8 posted on 12/25/2013 5:09:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tomkat

I see the one on the right is ready to celebrate Kwanzaa with a Kwanzaa necklace!


9 posted on 12/25/2013 5:11:42 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MinorityRepublican
the U.S. government’s behavior was far from respectful as it supported a regime that oppressed more than 90 percent of its people.

It was also prosperous, relatively safe and a 1st world nation. Now what you got?

10 posted on 12/25/2013 5:13:54 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Of course the so-called apartheid minority government
WAS the government at the time.

These same people who call us on this are the ones
that think we shouldn’t have gone in and overthrown
Saddam H.

Screw them.


11 posted on 12/25/2013 5:14:37 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Reagan met with Chief Buthelezi, and Buthelezi even warned Reagan that Sanctions would be disastrous.

Of course Mandela, who was a Xhosa, hated Zulus, especially Buthelezi.

Ahhhh, but they never tell you about how the two main black tribes in SA still hate each other, even more than they hate the Afrikaners.


12 posted on 12/25/2013 5:15:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

The whites need to totally leave and let the tribes kill each other off. Period.


13 posted on 12/25/2013 5:16:37 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Concerning the author, George E. Curry:

In 1993 Curry published a bold depiction of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas with an Aunt Jemima handkerchief on his head on the front cover.

14 posted on 12/25/2013 5:21:10 PM PST by Kennard
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To: Altura Ct.
...it supported a regime that oppressed more than 90 percent of its people...Now what you got?

A regime that oppresses 100% of its people?
Well...it is a kind of "progress"

15 posted on 12/25/2013 5:22:17 PM PST by stormhill
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To: MinorityRepublican

I guess we were afraid it could turn into Detroit.


16 posted on 12/25/2013 5:28:54 PM PST by boycott
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To: MinorityRepublican

(((YAWN))) Another America-hating crybaby. So what else is new.


17 posted on 12/25/2013 5:29:11 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Truth Is Out There. Just don't let anyone know that you're looking for it.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
This article ignores every fact inconsistent with the theme set by its race-baiting author. For example, President Reagan took many personal, courageous actions favourable to South Africa's indigenous population, including appointing a black ambassador and personally intervening in negotiations on their behalf.

That said, South Africa was, and still is, no more ready for pure democracy than is the West Bank. The last two decades have proven that.

18 posted on 12/25/2013 5:38:48 PM PST by Kennard
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's almost like the New South Africa and Detroit have something in common.

The Death of Johannesburg

19 posted on 12/25/2013 5:41:19 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: tomkat

At lest they had something to eat then.


20 posted on 12/25/2013 5:41:49 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Venturer
.. and the S hasn't even truly HTF there yet.

And when it does, you'll be hearing nary a peep about it from the presstitutes at the various Reich Ministry of Øbamaganda outlets.

21 posted on 12/25/2013 5:49:53 PM PST by tomkat
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To: MinorityRepublican

name me one country in Africa that has benefited more from black rule than white rule in the last 100 years .


22 posted on 12/25/2013 5:58:22 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: MinorityRepublican

Because what they got with majority rule has been so much more beneficial for everyone involved!


23 posted on 12/25/2013 6:02:05 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: tomkat

I believe there will be so much S that the media will be unable to ignore it.

They may try to spin it though.


24 posted on 12/25/2013 6:13:50 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: freeangel

That rule applies for all Muzzie nations as well.


25 posted on 12/25/2013 6:28:57 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m not convinced apartheid was the way to go. I do know that what looks black and white to foreign nationals generally isn’t reality on the ground.

I see the whole thing something like this.

If the Palestinians were able to kick all Jews out of Israel, would there be peace? I’d give it about 24 months before the Palestinians would find someone else to be mad at, and it would start all over.

That’s what will take place in South Africa ultimately. When Whites have been kicked out, I pitty the African nationals that remain. There will be carnage of Biblical proportions IMO.

Honestly, I’m not sure how an industrialized society can enter a nation like South Africa, tap it’s resources and manage it so that the locals are compensated properly, and the economic success floats all boats.

I think it’s a lot easier said than done.

It seems like when it’s tried a few strong-men (more often than not ONE), becomes too big for his britches and the rest of the nationals are abused.

Those who oppose the West now, would have at some point have criticized the education of African nationals along the Western cultural lines. It would have been ugly no matter how it was tried.

As South Africa continues to melt down, those who hated the White governance in Africa may come to miss that governance.

What lies ahead is not bliss my friends.


26 posted on 12/25/2013 6:39:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think that you are correct in your overall assessment of the way the situation will change in Sough Africa. Old tribal hatreds that had been kept under control will likely boil over and we shall see the gory, chocking consequences thereof.


27 posted on 12/25/2013 6:44:02 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

shocking, not “chocking.”


28 posted on 12/25/2013 6:45:05 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: MinorityRepublican
ALL black problems are rooted in two causes:
The presence of white people,
or the absence of white peoples $$$...

Just depends on which blacks you ask
29 posted on 12/25/2013 6:45:21 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Army Air Corps

You know, it reminds me of America. The media loves to foist this idealistic pristine pseudo-perfection off on us as if the Garden of Eden existed here before modern man arrived from Europe.

Some things from this existence were probably pretty good. Other parts of it were barbaric. Waring factions, tribal competition, these things weren’t out of some rules of Hoyle etiquette, to bastardize a rules of cards reference.

Same thing takes place in Africa even today. The Western influence where absent, reveals the ugly underbelly of African reality.

Massive slaughter with no holds barred. How many times have we seen it, and how many times must we see it?

That being said, the modern man that arrived from Europe was in some ways barbaric too. The senseless slaughter of the wild buffalo in the U. S. is a case in point.


30 posted on 12/25/2013 7:37:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Apartheid was on its’ last legs regardless of what course we took, it just turned out Constructive Engagement was the best hope that Post-Apartheid South Africa wasn’t going to devolve into chaos, at least for awhile.


31 posted on 12/25/2013 7:47:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: DoughtyOne
That being said, the modern man that arrived from Europe was in some ways barbaric too. The senseless slaughter of the wild buffalo in the U. S. is a case in point.

The interesting thing is that much that slaughter was aided by American Indians who depended on the buffalo hide trade and sought to make as much as possible out of what they thought was an inexhaustible supply of buffalo. Both whites and Indians share the blame on that one with plenty of raw greed to go around.
32 posted on 12/25/2013 7:54:53 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The US did not support apartheid, it also did not support terrorism.


33 posted on 12/25/2013 8:19:08 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: dfwgator
Post-Apartheid South Africa isn't a success story unless you think Detroit is a great place to visit here in the U.S.

Just Google "ruins of Johannesburg" and it's quite pitiful.

34 posted on 12/25/2013 9:10:30 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

The blacks living under Apartheid were far better off than those in Nearby Angola being murdered by Soviet Hind Gunships flown by white pilots, tortured to death in Angolan prisons by white East German Stasi, or slaughtered in their villages by Cuban Mercenary troops of the Soviet Empire. Similar Soviet Wars of Colonial Conquest were also happening in Mozambique, Ethiopia, Eritrea,and Rhodesia. This perspective is glaringly absent in this propaganda piece.

It was the Regan Doctrine of supporting anti Communist guerrilla fighters in those countries in Africa,Central America, and Afghanistan that caused the collapse of the Soviet Empire that ultimately freed Nelson Mandela from prison.

After the ANC lost their Soviet benefactor which aided them to the tune of $200 million a year, the communist Mandela was not seen as the threat he was earlier, so the SA authorities released him. And Mandela realized that he could not turn SA into a communist police state overnight without Soviet backing moderated his stand on the future of SA.

The hero in this true history is not Nelson Mandela but Ronald Reagan.


35 posted on 12/25/2013 9:47:35 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: MinorityRepublican

Communists rely on large disgruntled populations that can be manipulated to their designs through the arousal of their basest passions. Of course, a bit more equal representation goes a long way in stopping communists.


36 posted on 12/25/2013 10:25:07 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Uncle Lonny
And Mandela realized that he could not turn SA into a communist police state overnight without Soviet backing moderated his stand on the future of SA.

Also the efforts of Chief Buthelezi, who is a devoted Christian, held Mandela's feet to the fire.

37 posted on 12/26/2013 7:50:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

And what were the murder/rape/AIDS rates then as compared to now?


38 posted on 12/26/2013 7:51:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Now. it seems. the situation is reversed:Whites are being persecuted by blacks.
39 posted on 12/26/2013 9:16:44 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: Army Air Corps

Thanks for the mention. It sure isn’t sold that way is it...


40 posted on 12/28/2013 11:05:06 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: dfwgator

Fair enough. You know, when you look at the U. S., in some ways we can’t even get our own act together. It bothers me to see us jump in with both feet on other nation’s problems.

I do support U. S. homogeny around the world, so don’t get me wrong. It’s this P.C. B.S. that we get wrapped up in that causes the most problems.


41 posted on 12/28/2013 11:06:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Supporting any other kind of rule is to support mass suffering and death.


42 posted on 12/28/2013 11:09:52 AM PST by The Toll
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To: DoughtyOne

Nope, our “schools” still teach the myth that it was the “evil honkies” who singlehandedly drove to buffalo to near extinction. The truth is, that many American Indian tribes participated in the massive buffalo hunts - some for the hide trade and others to deprive rival tribes of buffalo.


43 posted on 12/28/2013 3:52:33 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

I remember reading one time as a kid how Buffalo Bill Cody had ridden on the rear end of a train (or something like that), just shooting as many as he could.

As a kid, I soaked that up.

If you think about it, I doubt he could have killed more than a few hundred. I don’t have any way of knowing. Those old stories always grew a head to steam between reality and the telling anyway.

The myth now is that the American Indian only took what they needed. Frankly, I don’t know how much of that to take for granted either.

You could just as easily be right here.


44 posted on 12/28/2013 9:23:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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