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New York Soon to Trail Florida in Population
The New York Times ^ | December 26, 2013 | Jesse McKinley

Posted on 12/27/2013 4:04:35 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

ALBANY — New York, whose status as the most populous state has long been ceded, will soon fall behind Florida into fourth place, a long-anticipated drop that is rife with symbolism and that could carry potentially serious economic consequences in coming years.

When the Census Bureau releases its latest population estimates on Monday, demographers expect that Florida and New York will be narrowly separated — perhaps by as little as a few thousand people — and that if Florida does not pass New York this time, it almost certainly will do so in 2014.

The census figures underscore immigration trends, as foreign-born migrants continue to move to warm-weather states such as California and Texas — No. 1 and 2 — as well as to Florida. The newcomers also include winter-weary New Yorkers who move or retire to Florida at a rate of over 50,000 a year, twice the number of Floridians who head to New York.

But the shift also highlights the struggles in upstate New York, which has lost large-scale manufacturing jobs and large chunks of population, offsetting consistent gains in New York City. But the city’s growth has seemingly not been robust enough to stave off hubs in Florida like Jacksonville, Miami-Dade County and Tampa.

“It’s going to happen,” said Andrew A. Beveridge, a professor of sociology at Queens College and an expert on the census, on New York’s falling into fourth place. “And if Florida accidentally grew faster and New York slowed down, it could have happened already.”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Florida; US: New York
KEYWORDS: demographics; economy; florida; newyork
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1 posted on 12/27/2013 4:04:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Can’t say that I’m surprised, and here’s why. Those who have moved have been replaced, and then some by ILLEGALS. I’ve lived in NYC my whole life and it has NEVER been as crowded as it is now.

PS: Does anyone honestly think that Census workers go into the hood and ring doorbells. They count the number of apartments in a building, multiply by 3, and run.


2 posted on 12/27/2013 4:09:51 PM PST by cumbo78
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The bad part is, that many of the new residents in Florida are moving there from NY.


3 posted on 12/27/2013 4:10:07 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, what percentage of the New Yawkers will continue to vote democrat in both states like they do now?


4 posted on 12/27/2013 4:10:13 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMG...close southbound I-95 before its too late! Let’s keep NY bigger than Florida.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 4:16:00 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Upstate NY is emptying out...looks desolate


6 posted on 12/27/2013 4:16:22 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cumo/DiFartio will still keep them on the voting rolls/ aka/no change in voting population/dead people and same amount of their electoral vote (that really needs to drop if another million move out).


7 posted on 12/27/2013 4:16:58 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not unexpected and good news as Florida while going Democrat in the last two presidential elections will soon be a solid Red State for Republicans.


8 posted on 12/27/2013 4:20:19 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I left New York because of the election of Hillary Clinton as Senator, and because I saw gun laws I hated, taking shape.


9 posted on 12/27/2013 4:21:50 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Oliviaforever

Not unexpected and good news as Florida while going Democrat in the last two presidential elections will soon be a solid Red State for Republicans.


Nope...all these Yorkers moving down now are liberals

So many of them freak out that there are no unions in Florida, and, the wages are lower than Florida...so are the welfare and unemployment checks. Its like they left the Soviet Union

Used to be when Northerners came to Florida, they were GOP and conservative. Not anymore. Just loud obnoxious lazy Democrats now


10 posted on 12/27/2013 4:24:50 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

well god only knows how many 10’s of thousands of homes are in the planning in Naples. so much construction going on here.


11 posted on 12/27/2013 4:28:28 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Bryanw92
For comparison, here's the electoral college map from 1912.


12 posted on 12/27/2013 4:30:57 PM PST by Jacquerie (To restore the 9th & 10th Amendments, repeal the 17th.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know those lights were bright on Broadway,
But that was so many years ago.
Before we all lived here in Florida,
Before the Mafia took over Mexico.

There are not many who remember,
They say a handful still survive.
To tell the world about,
The way the lights went out!
And to keep the memory alive!

Billy Joel - Miami 2017


13 posted on 12/27/2013 4:31:07 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to worry once the big dope opens the flood gates for illegals NY will be unsurpassable


14 posted on 12/27/2013 4:34:46 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not really. Anything South of Lake City is Lib paradise. Before long it will collapse under its own weight. We north of Lake city and west would love to secede if only we could somehow uproot Tallahassee and send it to them.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 4:42:42 PM PST by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’ll know that New York has become abandoned, when you see all the new bagel shops open, that you might remember, from up there.

Even worse, if “Ben’s” makes the move, or in a related view, Nathan’s!


16 posted on 12/27/2013 4:45:10 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: SeminoleCounty
Used to be when Northerners came to Florida, they were GOP and conservative. Not anymore. Just loud obnoxious lazy Democrats now

My wife and I moved to FL this year (from WA), and we're conservative.

17 posted on 12/27/2013 4:45:49 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

well god only knows how many 10’s of thousands of homes are in the planning in Naples. so much construction going on here.
......................................... True, all the refugees from the east coast are moving to the west. Dade and Palm Beach must be getting over crowded. Those NE’ers who messed up their own states are coming to FLA to mess it up too. After all, we all have to be equally messed up, to make our system work the Liberal way.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 4:49:10 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

“Upstate NY is emptying out...looks desolate”
I noticed this several years ago on a visit to the area. How much of this is simply people moving to avoid the onerous government that supports the stinking pile that is NYC?


19 posted on 12/27/2013 4:49:34 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

When the idiots re-elects Charlie Chump improved, hall down the flag and play taps.


20 posted on 12/27/2013 4:52:43 PM PST by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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