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Law School Grad Forced Into Retail Job Blogs The Loss Of His 'Last Shred Of Dignity'
Business Insider ^ | December 27, 2013 | Erin Fuchs

Posted on 12/28/2013 4:49:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As the New Year looms, many law graduates with heavy debt have yet to find work as attorneys — including the author of the self-deprecating new blog "Law Grad Working Retail."

The blog's anonymous author graduated from a law school that was in the top 50 ranked by U.S. News and World Report. He was on law review and even got a summer position at a firm after his second year. He didn't get a job offer though.

This grad still hasn't found legal work and took a job selling cologne just before the holidays to make ends meet. Now he says he's "liveblogging the loss of my last shred of dignity." His blog is both funny and heartbreaking.

The funny parts often involve his coworkers assuming he can answer every law-related question they have. His coworker Shaina grills him after it's discovered that another coworker named Julian is apparently "robbing the stock room blind." Here's the exchange:

"LawGrad, you a lawyer," Shaina began, "can Julian sue the store?"

"For what?"

"You know, accusing him of stealing because he’s Mexican."

"But he was stealing."

"So he can’t sue?"

"No."

Shaina also asks random questions like, "Is it illegal for a hospital to turn you away at the emergency room?" LawGrad tries to tell her he's not actually a lawyer, but she doesn't seem to get it and asks him at least three times what kind of law he practices.

"I told her cologne selling law," he writes.....

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does anyone know when John Boehner posed for this picture?

81 posted on 12/28/2013 7:01:09 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: Gaffer

Absolutely, it’s always hard to find good tradesmen.


82 posted on 12/28/2013 7:03:33 AM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: Gaffer

Good rules — I heard there were 3 Rules for a Successful Plumbing Career:

1. Sh!t flows downhill.

2. Wash your hands before dinner.

3. Payday is Friday.


83 posted on 12/28/2013 7:04:01 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Puppage; shibumi; EternalVigilance; RegulatorCountry

See my post at #79. The recipe for success is not going to college. The recipe for success is not whining about a lousy job.

The recipe for success (or at least, the first and major element) is TO DO IT WELL, LEARN FROM IT, AND DO IT WITHOUT COMPLAINT!


84 posted on 12/28/2013 7:05:51 AM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lots of scum sucking lawyers making big bucks doing this:

Social Security Disability Commercial


85 posted on 12/28/2013 7:06:02 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: central_va

In the first house we purchased in 1981 (basic tract home, ~1500 s.ft), the plumber had managed to screw up on Rule #1 in the hall bath. For this, we were blessed to get to pay 15% mortgage interest, thanks to Jimmy Carter’s stagflation.


86 posted on 12/28/2013 7:10:16 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: rlmorel

your last 3 points- 100% with the first two but number 3 theres a choice here needs to be faced. We have a great many jobs in our society that cannot support a family. Heck they can’t support a single person in a larger city. People here seem to scoff at that idea or turn a blind eye towards it and i truly don’t understand that position. Theres the argument that they’re for high school kids, people part time. That part is easy. The fact that a dozen people can work at a Starbucks or McDonalds and only one becomes a manager and only after years since the people in those positions aren’t anxious to leave. What other jobs are we creating? We all know not enough to employ everyone to where even a middle class existence is possible.
So we can have jobs that pay more or we can have people getting aid from the government to make ends meet. Of course we can also have neither and live along side 50 million homeless people. That one doesn’t work for me seeing as i’m Catholic.
I’ve also seen the argument put forth on here that instead of the government the church can supply people with extra food and other assistance but i can’t take that seriously. certainly they can and do help to some extent but the problem today dwarfs their ability to help.
So you tell me. We don’t have enough decent paying jobs for people in their 20’s to get out of their parents homes. People in their 30’s too. Do we find a way to bring back these jobs we’ve lost or simply keep people on various forms of government assistance?
If you vote for 50 million living in the streets we have nothing further to talk about. I know there are some on here who think thats some sort of tough love. I don’t.


87 posted on 12/28/2013 7:16:06 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Sooth2222

There are many jobs available for people with Law degrees that either didn’t bother with the Bar exam or failed. One that comes to mind is claim adjusters for insurance companies. They have high turnover due to the long hours and pressure and they love people with law background and it pays more than cologne sales, and he can put his skills to use. There are more, but this is one I am familiar with.


88 posted on 12/28/2013 7:22:27 AM PST by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: Tax-chick

It appears he hasn’t passed the bar exam. Which means he either should be studying to take it the first time, or has failed it once, and should be studying harder, while doing some kind of work (like retail) until he passes.

Dollars to donuts he’s an AA beneficiary who didn’t meet normal admission standards for intelligence and academic success.

*If* he passes the bar exam and still can’t get a job in the big city, I’d advise moving to an unfashionable boom town like the oil areas of North Dakota, and earning a good living serving people’s actual legal needs. Either hang out a shingle, or find a lawyer who needs help and will mentor.


89 posted on 12/28/2013 7:31:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: MasterGunner01

We only have 70% of all the lawyers on the planet trying to earn a living here.


That happens to be a myth.

The US is in the middle of the pack for the number of legal service providers per capita. (For example, in Japan there are very few lawyers, but many people who are legally trained and provide legal services in companies. In other nations, notaries are legally educated and provide the kinds of services lawyers provide here).

Except for the ABA law school accreditation monopoly that makes law school needlessly expensive, and the state bar exam “hoop jumping” we have a relatively free market.

Anyone who disagrees can explain how we have “too many lawyers” and “lawyers are overpaid” at the same time.

Incidentally, this topic has been around cyclically for generations.


90 posted on 12/28/2013 7:37:49 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This certainly isn’t the first time - My parents met in law school in the late 1940’s (after my dad served 5 years on active duty during the war). After they both graduated, he discovered he wasn’t the only returning soldier who went to law school, and the supply far out-stripped the demand. Neither one ever did practive law.


91 posted on 12/28/2013 7:40:16 AM PST by AbnSarge
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To: Sine_Pari

Perhaps this is a sign the market for lawyers has reached saturation and can not support any new comers.


I’ve heard that for 35 years with only rare interruptions (they were doubtlessly saying earlier, but I wasn’t listening).

The reality is that there are too few excellent lawyers, and too many crappy ones. Just like every other occupation.


92 posted on 12/28/2013 7:41:14 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: wiggen
It's a game, rigged by the Government.

The Gov passes out aid (earned income tax credit), gubmint cheese, etc. Then employers really don't have pressure on them to supply decent wages.

It happened as well when women started working en masse. Slowly after, one salary became two watered down salaries.

Then immigration reform in the 1967 bill. Let every person with an education come to the USA to ply his trade. Sure, give away the farm. It's a small world after all. Kumbaya.

Mix in some heavy-duty white guilt and you get all kinds of affirmative action scenarios.

So, instead of the rest of the world getting better and wealthier by its own self-investment, people come here and parasite off the USA.

It's in the Preamble that the US is for ourselves and our posterity.

Sure well controlled immigration is good, but, now that the land has all been sold and the towns filled up, we have to start thinking about America first.

Of course, the Rats just want more poor dependent Rat voters, regardless of whether they are alive, dead, foreigners, criminals, poor, unproductive. They just want the votes.

So, do I sound like an incorrigible redneck?

Then you take your law degree, medical degree, plumber's certificate, whatever, and go to ANY OTHER country in the world and see if they will even let you work part time. Go ahead, give it a try.

They've got more sense than us... they will never give away the farm.

93 posted on 12/28/2013 7:45:52 AM PST by caddie
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To: jagusafr
Wow. I can't believe they are telling them NOT to work for a charity while looking for a find a full-time, paying job. Unbelievable.
94 posted on 12/28/2013 7:48:59 AM PST by shatcher (Judges 17:6b Everyone did what was right in his own eyes.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It sounds like he never passed the bar.

If he passed the bar he is a lawyer regardless of if he is currently employed by a firm or not.

95 posted on 12/28/2013 7:52:40 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess dignity comes from being a lawyer.


96 posted on 12/28/2013 7:56:50 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: caddie

no you don’t sound like a redneck. maybe a little conspiracy orientated but not a redneck. I don’t think it’s a game. I think we have politicians, both parties, thinking of their own power. Any consequences of that, like over promising unions is something that they just shove down our throats. Oh and many politicians are stupid too. They may know how to smile for a camera, throw out a few buzz words they’re coached on but thats it.


97 posted on 12/28/2013 8:05:50 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: castlegreyskull

I don’t need a plumber everyday either. I hate plumbers with the same passion that I hate lawyers. I do all of my own plumbing because I refuse to pay the insane amount of money plumbers charge. I am self taught and can do everything I need around the house myself.


98 posted on 12/28/2013 8:07:44 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Tax-chick

As a kid I worded as a busboy, paperboy, and a maintenance man to make ends meet, while I attended Art School on a scholarship.. As life turned out, in spite of my success in the Designing field, I hated it, and became a Food and Beverage professional..

Those early years before higher education interfered with my life, were the backbone of my ultimate successes.. My own personal experience guided my attitude in hiring my future employees.. I weight experience over education in almost every position I employ..


99 posted on 12/28/2013 8:15:32 AM PST by carlo3b (Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad.. Henry Kissinger)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Use the retail job as a stepping stone. It may not be the anticipated career path, but if this blogger shows a work ethic and the ability to do the job in spite of the situation, they can still go far.


100 posted on 12/28/2013 8:25:26 AM PST by yawningotter
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