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To: Timber Rattler

Infantry basic is a LONG way from BUDS or Q course. That is out of 100 men who apply, only about 3 actually make it.


3 posted on 12/28/2013 7:35:40 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I have always thought that there needs to be three standards based upon either MOS or unit status. The standards being combat, combat support and support.

Combat units would have to pass the most stringent standards (run (2 miles timed), pushups, sit-ups, pull-ups, dead lift (60 lbs sand bag from ground up to shoulder as many times in 2 min), drag (100 yard drag of 60 lbs sand bag, timed) and a forced march (5 mile speed walk with 60 lbs ruck and weapon)

Combat support would have to pass a less rigorous set (run, pushups, sit-ups, pull ups and dead lift.

Support units would only have to pass the lest rigorous test (run, pushups, sit-ups, pull-ups)

The measure would not “accommodate” male vs. female as they are job performance based.

The most difficult standard being applied either individual or unit. For example, an Infantryman MOS assigned to a transportation or other support unit (it happens) would be required to pass the combat standard. Likewise a chemical NCO assigned to an Infantry unit (MOS based) would be required to pass the combat standard (unit based).

Promotion points should be awarded such that passing the combat standard is awarded the most promotion point but passing the support standard is awarded the least promotion points.


25 posted on 12/28/2013 8:43:14 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I was honest with myself about BUDS. There’s no way I could get through it (I’m not a wuss- just an average man), so I never applied. I don’t see how a woman is going to get through it without some major standard relaxation/elimination.

Then there’s the problem with acceptance on the teams. Nobody’s going to want to have a half-load/no-load to drag around on an op. She’ll get left behind on the boat or aircraft to do paperwork.


40 posted on 12/28/2013 9:40:53 AM PST by EricT. (ARBEIT MACHT FREI- now get back to work you taxpaying peasant!)
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