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Prescription drug abuse kills: action in 4 areas to lower abuse
Emaxhealth ^ | 2013-12-27 | Dr. Harold Mandell

Posted on 12/28/2013 10:33:19 PM PST by Armen Hareyan

There has been growing awareness of the power of prescription medications to kill. The problem is so serious it should be ranked alongside illicit drug abuse and alcohol abuse as primary critical health hazards in the United States and elsewhere across the world. High profile deaths from prescription drugs, such as that of Michael Jackson, helps to highlight how serious this problem is. Many other people are also dead and dying from prescription drugs. The time to act on this problem is now.

Prescription drug abuse has been labelled as an epidemic by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reports The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. There has been a marked decrease in the use of some illegal drugs such as cocaine, according to data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH). However, nearly one-third of people who are aged 12 and over who have used drugs for the first time in 2009 started by using a prescription drug non-medically.

It is often believed by prescription drug abusers that these substances are safer than illicit drugs because after all they are prescribed by healthcare professionals and dispensed by pharmacists. This appears to be a critical problem of misperception in teens. Teens are responsible for much prescription drug abuse, reports EmaxHealth reporter Robin Wulffson, MD. Addressing the critical problem of the prescription drug abuse epidemic is a top priority for public health.

The 2011 Prescription Drug Abuse Prevention Plan has expanded upon the Obama Administration's National Drug Control Strategy. This initiative now includes action in four major areas to lower prescription drug abuse, including:

1: Education. In order to effectively tackle the problem of prescription drug abuse it is essential to educate parents, youth, and patients about the dangers of abusing prescription drugs. Prescribers should be required to receive education dealing with the appropriate and safe use, and proper storage and disposal of prescription drugs.

2: Monitoring. Prescription drug monitoring programs (PDMPs) should be implemented in every state to lower “doctor shopping” and diversion. PDMPs should be enhanced to make certain they can share data across states and are used by healthcare providers.

3: Proper Medication Disposal. Convenient and environmentally responsible prescription drug disposal programs should be developed to help lower the supply of unused prescription drugs in the home.

4: Enforcement. Law enforcement needs the tools necessary to eliminate improper prescribing practices and to put a stop to pill mills.

Prescription drug abuse and doctors who prescribe them have been on the rise, according to EmaxHealth reporter Tyler Woods, Ph.D.

It has been observed that prescription drugs are actually the second-most abused category of drugs after marijuana. Furthermore, the most recent National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows that greater than 70 percent of people who abused prescription pain relievers got them from friends or relatives, while about 5 percent got them from a drug dealer or over the Internet. Also, opiate overdoses, which was once almost always due to heroin use, are now increasingly surfacing as being due to abuse of prescription painkillers. In the U.S. military alone, illicit drug use increased from 5% to 12% among active duty service members between 2005 to 2008. This was primarily due to the non-medical use of prescription drugs.

In recent years the number of prescriptions filled for opioid pain relievers, which are some of the most powerful medications available, has increased dramatically. There was a 402 percent increase in the milligram-per-person use of prescription opioids in the U.S. from 1997 to 2007. Furthermore, in 2000 retail pharmacies dispensed 174 million prescriptions for opioids.

Prescription medications are still killing, writes the Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC).

A wave of cautionary drug stories this year was lead by GlaxoSmithKline’s penalty. In the largest pharmaceutical settlement to date, in July 2012 pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) pleaded guilty to a three-part criminal indictment. The firm agreed to pay $3 billion in fines and civil penalties, which is the largest pharmaceutical settlement to date. The crime was promoting its drugs for unapproved uses while also failing to report drug-related health hazards.

U.S. Justice Department prosecutors said GSK endorsed Paxil for use by patients under 18 years old, even though there was lack of approval. The firm was also charged with withholding research which was related to a possible increase in suicide risk when taken by adolescents. GSK was also charged with failing to disclose health hazards which are associated with the diabetes drug Avandia. And doctors are said to have been given illegal kickbacks by GSK.

Abbott Laboratories settled for $1.6 billion over a lawsuit involving its anti-seizure drug Depakote in 2012. Abbott was charged with illegally marketing the drug for schizophrenia and agitated dementia, even though it was approved only for treatment of seizure disorders, or mania which is associated with bipolar disorder and migraines. Although doctors may prescribe drugs for any purpose, pharmaceutical companies are prohibited from promoting drugs for conditions which are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

Johnson & Johnson's Janssen Pharmaceuticals agreed to pay $181 million in order resolve claims made by 35 states and the District of Columbia that the firm had defrauded state Medicaid agencies by promoting the antipsychotic drugs Risperdal and Invega for unapproved uses. This was the largest multi-state health care fraud settlement ever.

The shooting massacres in 2012 in Aurora, Colorado and Newtown, Connecticut have sparked renewed interest in the association between violence and prescription psychiatric drugs in teens and young adults. This disturbing pattern was evidenced in the 25-year list of school shootings which was compiled by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights International (CCHR). The CCHR has long been blasting the psychiatrists for using dangerous drugs which can set off suicidal and homicidal ideation and intent, along with many other painful and sometimes lethal side effects.

Older patients are also put at risk by prescription drugs. A Vanderbilt University study has found that about 50 percent of all heart patients make medication errors. Two percent of these medication errors are life threatening. It has been found that one in five medications which are prescribed to people older than 65 are either wrongly prescribed or prescribed at the wrong dosage. This study also uncovered several drugs that are routinely prescribed for seniors, despite knowledge of their being inappropriate for that age group. These drugs include:

1: The pain reliever propoxyphene (Darvon, Darvocet)

2: The antidepressant amitriptyline (Elavil, Endep)

3:The blood pressure pill doxazosin (Cardura)

4: The antihistamine diphenhydramine (Benadryl).

Kristaps Paddock, ND, has commented in regard to the position of naturopaths on the prescription drug abuse problem, "The issue is not that drugs don't work, nor that as a naturopathic physician I'm 'opposed' to drugs, but rather that when the lives and health of patients is on the line, we should have access to accurate, unbiased information, be it about pharmaceutical drugs, herbs, supplements or other treatments." Dr. Paddock's insightful comment is right on target.

It has been my impression that the abuse of both illicit and prescribed drugs has been epidemic for decades, if not longer. These drugs have flooded the market to such a degree it appears organized crime must have infiltrated the entire American society, including the high school and university campuses. It also appears a disregard for the seriousness of this problem by many medical doctors highlights a catastrophic lack of commitment to dealing with these problems by medical educators and an arrogant desire to place quick profits ahead of patients lives by too many medical doctors.

It's been sad to witness that the practice of good general health care and good mental health care is far too often equated with how many prescription drugs are written. If a cup of green tea and exercise works better than pills, pills and more pills for some conditions such as weakness of an unclear etiology, than the pills simply should not be prescribed even if they are cleared by the FDA for such uses. Making up diagnoses to legitimize the prescribing of drugs which are often dangerous, as psychiatrists always do, can be lethal.

TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: healthcare; prescriptiondrugs
How can we as a society make people more aware of this danger?
1 posted on 12/28/2013 10:33:19 PM PST by Armen Hareyan
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To: Armen Hareyan

Propaganda! That’s how.

2 posted on 12/28/2013 10:48:08 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

I take some prescription drugs. Last time I went to the doctor to get my prescriptions refilled I had to take a urine analysis. It’s something new in response to the growing number of people abusing prescription drugs. The test also makes sure you are taking your drugs and not hoarding or selling them.

3 posted on 12/28/2013 11:00:02 PM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: Armen Hareyan
No problem! With ObamaCare they can just forbid doctors from prescribing dangerous drugs.

It's for the children, donchaknow?

4 posted on 12/28/2013 11:00:42 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Psychiatrists are dangerous quacks, and their pills make you sicker than you were when you went in for help. I would think twice before trusting anyone in my family to their tender mercies.

5 posted on 12/28/2013 11:01:05 PM PST by Psiman (PS I am not a crackpot)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Welcome to FR, BTW...

6 posted on 12/28/2013 11:03:27 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Armen Hareyan

My wife was prescribed Paxil 20 years ago... The doctor doctor who prescribed it died and the new doctor just continued the prescription.

In checking her medications on the web, I found that the first 150 thousand hits with google involved lawsuits regarding this drug...

I told the Dr., either justify it or take her off it. I ask him if he knew why she was on it and he didn’t.

He immediately weaned her off it. I think he was somewhat embarrassed.

Bottom line... YOU have to check. They won’t.

7 posted on 12/28/2013 11:04:19 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Armen Hareyan

The awareness that has to resonate is that prescription drug addiction is no better than illicit drug addiction and those who abuse either type of drug is an addict.

8 posted on 12/28/2013 11:08:09 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Armen Hareyan

Prescription medications are still killing, writes the Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges (AANMC).

Huh? What does a Naturopath have to do with pharmacology? And propoxyphene has been pulled off the market( very stupid move by the way) since 2010.

9 posted on 12/28/2013 11:41:25 PM PST by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: babygene
For men {not women} Paxil can have an undesired effect on the bladder. Blockage to be exact. Antidepressants carry a risk of the patient developing Serotonin Syndrome. This usually occurs when a patient without consulting their doctor takes OTC Cold medications with an antidepressant.

Compounding that issue is many doctors prescribing antidepressants are oblivious to Serotonin Syndrome. In other words they never heard of it. It's much like giving someone LSD and if not diagnosed properly and action taken it can kill.

10 posted on 12/28/2013 11:57:31 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe
I use the State PMP all the time in my practice.

Today I caught TWO doctor "shoppers" who had massive amounts of narcotics prescribed from multiple sources.

I always am compassionate with such patients. I tell them I CAN'T give them narcotics, but I'll help them in any other way I can.

People with real pain, who aren't diverting or abusing never kick up a fuss.

BTW, these databases are ONLY for professionals to access. Pharmacists and doctors/providers.

It's illegal for some random person to go snooping around.

And YES it can be a lifesaver. If someone is actually taking these pills in these amounts, it would burn out their livers due to the Tylenol component alone.

Wish this was used more often.

Sorry to admit this about my profession, but many docs either don't check the PMP, or worse, just don't care.

It's rotten medical practice.

How would these docs feel if one of their patients died due to negligence?

11 posted on 12/29/2013 12:15:25 AM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: boop
I take one of the "Boogieman" meds in the eyes of most doctors as does my wife. I'm a Xanax user of 20 years next month and my wife is a 28 year user. Xanax actually likely saved her life when a shrink gave her Trazadone and Zoloft. That's when I learned about Serotonin Syndrome. I diagnosed what six doctors missed.

Both of us have neurological impairments {she's an incomplete quad} which makes use of antidepressants a higher risk for adverse reaction. I took quite a few antidepressant of the month by several doctors for what was diagnosed as General Anxiety Disorder. They all made it worse especially my sensitivity to certain sounds.

Two years into treatment I found a book called Phobia Free and a doctor linked many anxiety disorders to Cerebellar Vestibular related damage likely from severe life long sinus allergies in my case. It makes sense if my sensory processing system was damaged antidepressants would saturate my damaged sensory processing system thus triggering more anxiety. The disorder alone is severe enough to produce Myoclonic seizures in my upper Torso antidepressants made that worse as well. Certain sounds and certain visual effects set me off. Phobic induced anxiety? No. Not in my case.

I started out on 2 MG Xanax a day. Big mistake as it only works half the time. Finally I found a doctor who understood it and he took me off all AD's and kept me on Xanax but cut the dose to .5mg four times a day. Now it works enough to where I can somewhat control it.

When some doctors see the Xanax prescription and I tell them how long I've taken it they freak. I have to explain to them what is actually wrong. My primary care doc understands as does my allergist. My primary care doc writes the script now for me and my wife.

My biggest gripe about these crackdowns is it has in the past made it difficult to find a doctor to write the script. If you loose your doctor you can't just go to an ER and say hey I need Xanax. LOL. On the other hand the extra meds we had accumulated over the years got us through a six month stretch of no primary care doctor. I do not consider a three - six month on hand amount of any medication used long term and as directed without abuse as bad or wrong but rather in these time a wise move. No one but immediate family and our doctors know we take it.

12 posted on 12/29/2013 12:40:47 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Armen Hareyan

This is what gets me about the anti-supplement jihad.

For every person who is even made sick by taking supplements, probably TEN THOUSAND die from prescription drugs!

Prescription pain killers/sleep aids/anti-psychotics kill far more people in this country than supplements and/or illegal drugs combined.

Way, way more.
Many times more!

13 posted on 12/29/2013 12:49:36 AM PST by djf (Global warming is a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: cva66snipe
I found that Xanax was a miracle drug for me. For years I was unable to sleep eight hours uninterrupted. On top of that I had severe allergies because of our cats. Xanax instantly curred both problems even though each were an off lable treatment. I take .5mg before bed and sleep (dream) soundly for eight hours. In addition, I stopped suffering from bronchial spasms (cats) during that time.

I don't characterise that drug the same as I do a great many opiate related ones. Then again I am dangerously allergic to all opiates. I guess I wouldn't know the addictive effects.

From what I can tell, Xanax may be an age related treatment. The off label treatment for sleep issues far out weighs those for anxiety in the 45 to 65 age bracket. In my case I just couldn't turn off the day or work. Sometimes it was just a patent related idea. I would toss and turn for hours. Xanax turned that off during sleep time.
14 posted on 12/29/2013 1:02:05 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: djf
The pain killer issue is the by-product of several factors. The first being One Day Surgery. Not so long ago surgery meant hospital stay and medication was given and pain addressed before discharged.

The second one is chronic pain suffers who despite medical science best efforts will hurt and be in considerable life long pain because from medical advances they survived what a couple of decades ago would have been a fatal accident, incident, or disorder.

Third is doctors due to pressures placed on them by insurers do not have the time to do extensive histories and work ups that may give a clue as to why the person hurts.

I have a cousin with a severe heart condition. By severe I mean the doctors told him to get his affairs in order they can do no more. He also has arthritis in his legs. Due to an insurance change he lost his primary care doctor and was unable to get another one due to the new insurance so called network provider list. He ran out of pain medication which he took sparingly.

He went to an ER his last primary care doctor and Cardiologist was associated with as a last resort asking for just enough meds to tie him over till he found another doctor. He was treated like some junkie off the street doctor shopping despite the fact the ER attending had full access to his medical records. Neither his previous doctor nor his cardiologist were consulted which brings up another issue in this. He left the ER in pain and no medication. He thought he was doing right by going to a place where his medical records were at.

Doctors today again thanks mainly to insurance mandates making them see more patients per day just to keep their doors open in the practice no longer make hospital rounds. You get Doctor of The Day likely contracted by the hospital or if you're real luck contracted by your primary who at least answers to your primary care doc. Your primary doctor will likely have no knowledge of your issue until he gets a report days later.

Government as much as possible needs to leave health care alone. The more government gets involved the worse things get for everyone. As for insurance? Congress should not only repeal Obamacare but the Kennesdy HMO Acts as well.

15 posted on 12/29/2013 1:18:09 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Armen Hareyan

I am in withdrawal from Cymbalta right now.
Its hellish. It was prescribed for nerve pain.
It did not do enough for the pain so I want to quit.
Also, it is expensive.
Google it. (ssri syndrome).

16 posted on 12/29/2013 1:20:08 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: PA Engineer
It sounds like a mild case of OCB Obsessive Compulsive behavior which is misunderstood by many to simply be a repetitive ritual disorder. It can trigger excessive worry or obsessive concentration on a thought process.

When this stuff hit me 20 years ago I was checking and rechecking my work. I was also screwing up forgetting to close valves etc on the boilers. I would get home and call back to work and have the guy on shift check things. OCB? No rather my brain was compensating for a disorder I didn't know I had. I was loosing my concentration an issue I still deal with due to the nature of my disorder.

My dad had OCB. If I was driving somewhere even as an adult he wanted me to call when I got there. It helped make him a darn fine technician for Ma Bell but robbed him of peace of mind. Luvox fixed that for him.

BTW have you been tested for allergies? Could be other common things like mold. I tested positive on cats. But mold and pollens was the actual offender doing the damage. I have to take shots now for it. Personally IMO if a person can take Xanax in low dosage like you or me and has no significant addiction history and also very important a light or non alcohol user I think it's safer than antidepressants.

As for opiates? I have a crooked spine and compressed disk in my back. I've had it 35 years and every once in a while the Sciatic {sp} nerve pinches and it takes Hydrocodone to get me back on my feet. It's either about three doses of it which makes me sick to my stomach or a week or two in bed which due to circumstances with my wife I can not do. I had hand surgery this past summer. I was given Oxycodone to take home. I took it twice and decided the pain was less worse on me than the pill LOL. I keep a few Hydrocodone pills for PRN use. It save a trip to the ER and I can't predict when my back is going out except if it snows and I make a mis step.

17 posted on 12/29/2013 1:39:48 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Armen Hareyan

We need a war on drugs.

18 posted on 12/29/2013 1:40:45 AM PST by No Whey Jose (What's a tagline?)
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To: right way right
Hey get to an ER ASAP if you think you are having Serotonin Syndrome. It can be counter acted rather quickly if the doctor is on the ball. I've seen it first hand twice and it is nothing to mess with and I say that in all sincerity.

The doctor will likely use Ativan, Valium, or Xanax to counteract the reaction. If you are having Serotonin Syndrome and the doctor won't listen find one that will. My wife went to the ER in a pyschotic state right after seeing her shrink an hour before and he saw nothing wrong and upped the Zoloft and then in an hours time after getting to the ER went unconscious. That should have sent up red flags.

The doctors at two ER's did not do a basic medication look up. Neither did two shrinks nor the two house doctors. This was at a level one university hospital. They were so blame clueless they took her off all medications then in walked a shrink who had never seen her and gave her more Zoloft. In one hours time she was pyschotic again. I'm not a doctor but darn it I'm bright enough to figure that one out. I went home and searched her meds plus adverse reactios and got the info I needed in a matter of 5 minites. I took it to the doctor and he said that is pure rubbish. I said it is huh read me the professors name then. He began stuttering at that point. Hard to argue with your Universities Pharmacology Professor.

She was discharged a few days later and still has partial amnesia and lost a few events in her life for good. She also had a brain bleeder show up on the MRI they finally did the last day.

19 posted on 12/29/2013 1:56:57 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Armen Hareyan

bunch of crap. 15000 died of prescription drug use, but if you look at the data closely, a lot of it is diversion of narcotics from patients who needed the pain medicine, or diverted from “pill mills” like that of abortionist gosnell.

In comparison, 15000 people died from “NSAIDS”: aspirin, motrin, etc.

The increase in pain pill abuse is because for years, people hurt: because docs wouldn’t give them enough pain medicine to relieve their pain. I saw this in my father when he was dying of cancer, and I’m sure you know of similar people.

So they loosened the criteria for using narcotics.

And voila, the druggies started stealing it: I know of two deaths from narcotics diverted from cancer patients. Are you going to blame the docs for these deaths?

as for anti depressent medicines: Yes, I filled in for a clinic where a lot of the ladies I saw were on prozac etc...I joked about it only to have a nurse say she was on it too.

A lot of these ladies needed TLC and cutting back on a busy schedule, but when the HMO tells you to see 23 people a day, who has time to counsel them? Which is why I was filling in there, not working there.

ON the other hand, if prozac helps your raging hormones, well, why not? As for depression: It is a major problem. And often people with chronic pain have secondary biochemical depression. Should we let them suffer? Depression is not in your head.

20 posted on 12/29/2013 2:04:47 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: right way right

Are you having stomach ache, head ache, extreme agaition, confussion even to the point of seeing things, muscle rigidity, nausea, elevated blood pressure and pulse, and involuntary muscle movements? If yes that sounds like Serotonin Syndrome. Or If those symptoms just show up after taking the pill then it could be leading into it see a doctor ASAP.

21 posted on 12/29/2013 2:07:45 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: Psiman

psychiatrists aren’t quacks.

Fifty years ago, when I started medical school, we had state hospitals full of very mentally ill schizophrenics etc.

Most folks think psychiatry is about quirky folks who are cute and only need love. The movies are the worst ones at pushing this idea (silver lining playbook? One flew over the cukoo nest? As good as it gets? Blecch...)

Until you have seen or worked with those with severe mental illness, you can’t appreciate that it is real. Just because some spoiled yuppies feel sorry for themselves doesn’t mean that depression, post traumatic stress syndrome, or schizoprhrenia are minor problems: And all of them can be treated with medicines: Not a cure, and not everyone, but most of them.

22 posted on 12/29/2013 2:10:48 AM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: LadyDoc
It all depends on the shrink. I fired three of mine before a fourth one knew what was going on simply because he listened. They are tops on things like as you say very severe mentally ill schizophrenics, Bipolar, etc but refuse to think outside the box on lesser disorders.

My sister has major mental health issues that's now compounded by Dementia. She also say one of the doctors I had fired. They had to take her there on an emergency basis {she was that doctors regular patient} because her husband had just died. My niece called ahead and explained the situation. They get to the clinic and out walks her nurse asking her "where's that husband of yours at"?

The doctor likely came here on a work Visa had about as much business treating patients as I do flying space shuttles. A Neurologist finally got her meds in check and did the Dementia diagnoses. Out of five shrinks I've dealt with only one seemed to have competent knowledge and he ran a hospitals psych ward as well. But he was also one of the most dysfunctional persons you'd ever want to meet. He about got his license yanked over a lady friend he was prescribing pills for.

As for really learning how to live with a mental issue a LCSW is the one who does the one on one sessions. The one I had got me through PTSD that hit me same time the other issue did. I don't have a high opinion of Shrinks in general based on extensive and near fatal experiences.

23 posted on 12/29/2013 2:35:29 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe

I meant this.

Read about the so called “head zaps.”

Thank God they are better right now.
Its been a little over 2 weeks since I took my last half dose.
I cannot afford to take this crap.
My advice to people is to stay away from Anti depressants!

24 posted on 12/29/2013 2:54:26 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: Armen Hareyan

As a chronic pain patient all I can say is I’m getting sick and damned tired of having to jump through more and more hoops thanks to all the idiot dopeheads out there.

I take my meds as prescribed and have since 1989 when a drunk driver very nearly killed me. I’ve never and would never do anything to cause any problems because I know what is SUPPOSSED to happen to those who abuse them.

If I can follow the rules and do it for 23 years straight then so can anyone.

25 posted on 12/29/2013 3:00:10 AM PST by snuffy smiff (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.)
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To: cva66snipe

I believe the symtoms were starting in on me and got through it because I keep Zanax on hand.
That is when I started to research how I was feeling.
I had thought it was my new medicine for diabetes that was efffecting me.
But my research found this.
This is just one source but there are others.

26 posted on 12/29/2013 3:08:56 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: right way right
Ok thanks now I understand. I stopped taking antidepressants 5 times. Finally the shrink I had from India insisted I had to take them. Me and her had some heated words needless to say. Same doc my sister saw later and we got her away from her as well.

She wasn't a bad doctor because she was from India {so is my nieces husband} she was a bad doctor because she didn't have a earthly clue as to why she was there for LOL. Next shrink took me off antidepressant I was taking and fixed my Xanax prescription to one that stays low strength in the bloodstream 24/7. My medical charts now have No antidepressants adverse reaction on them.

It was a couple years after that my wife had Serotonin Syndrome and I realized from symptoms I was having while taking them I was right on the edge of it. Wellburtin for example made flush, nausiated, and a head ache within minutes of taking it.

Paxil locked up my blader and I had to go to the ER for a Cathater. Thanks to my training for my wifes care I understood what was happening to me and got to the ER before I went into shock. I asked the nurse what was wrong with me and he said Paxil caused it. We see a few cases a month of this. I had the folley for two weeks till the Paxil left my bloodstream.

My wife wasn't so lucky. For nearly a week she thought she was Della Reese aka Tess on Touched by an angel. 28 years ago she was being treated for anxiety & placed on Xanax by her cardiologist to control heart spasms that was closing down a valve in her heart. About 13 years later she was taking antidepressants for PTSD and clinical depression when she had the reaction to them.

27 posted on 12/29/2013 3:39:52 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: snuffy smiff

You sound like you could use some Medical Marijuana.
LOL. Heh.....heh.

28 posted on 12/29/2013 3:51:49 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: Armen Hareyan

This is awful! We need to ramp up the War On Drugs! We need DEA and the professionals of Obamacare to second guess Doctors even more than is already done. Obviously we need more no knock raids and more paperwork for medical professionals. More bureaucratic oversight is always the cure!

29 posted on 12/29/2013 3:51:57 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: cva66snipe

You’re experienced.
Evidently some of us get to see the nut from the inside.
I lost my job because of my inability to focus on an important task at an important time.
Why? Because I quit a drug that does worse things to you then for you.
That’s how things went for me. Now I’m over the worst (I hope) and have no choice but to get back up and fight.

The big problem I have now is finding a job and not looking back.
Unfortunately looking back is what prospective employers do.

30 posted on 12/29/2013 4:08:14 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: Armen Hareyan
How can we as a society make people more aware of this danger?

Give even more power to government to tell doctors what to do? As this article seems to suggest.

31 posted on 12/29/2013 4:10:22 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Armen Hareyan

“How can we as a society make people more aware of this danger.”

Talk about our drug experiences on

Seriously, there was a time when investigative journalist
actually investigated and exposed truth. Truth that mattered.
Now, everything must fit the agenda of Satan which is pretty much void of truth about anything that really matters.

Now it’s the new media. In fact you are at one of the founding websites of the new media.

32 posted on 12/29/2013 4:29:21 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: Graybeard58

It does beg for the big solution does it not.
Getting Government involved in health care is like paddling a canoe up Niagra falls.
You can try it but its obviously not going to work very good.

33 posted on 12/29/2013 4:39:49 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: Oliviaforever
The awareness that has to resonate is that prescription drug addiction is no better than illicit drug addiction and those who abuse either type of drug is an addict.

Is the term "abuse" pharmalogical or statutory?

34 posted on 12/29/2013 4:42:56 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: cva66snipe; boop; anyone

Appreciate very much the sharing of your knowledge and experience! It’s one thing that makes this place such a treasure trove -

So, let me get this straight...Serotonin, when it is left in the neurosynaptic gap (not re-uptaken), leads to ‘feel good’,
however, in some reactions, there’s ‘too much’ serotonin? leading to the syndrome/toxicity?

I HAVE taken Wellbutrin for help with smoking-cessation, BUT, it made my head feel tight, almost like I was having an oncoming migraine, so I quit after a week.

I DO eat turkey several times a week though :)))

35 posted on 12/29/2013 6:29:09 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: Armen Hareyan
This is funny.

Prescription drugs are "Controlled Substances", regulated primarily by the FDA (stating the obvious; work with me).

Prescription drug abuse begins & ends with the doctors prescribing the drugs, not "people". Seriously: A study of people abusing essentially government-dispensed drugs blaming people?

Doctors are also "drug dealers" now, based on my interpretation of the article.

So, if the government can't enforce its own enforcement mechanisms & regulations for Schedule 'x' Controlled Substances, there's little point to continuing enforcement of 'illicit' drugs under the current scheme.

Worse, if you look at the statistics between 1998 & 2008 here, then one stunning explanation stands out:

Economic Anxiety

And the author sees fit to publish only 4 ways to deal with the problem, ALL of them with more regulation by the Government? ROFLMAO if this guy weren't serious, as most progs are about increasing government even further.

Ironically, this study is a stunning indictment of government across the board.


36 posted on 12/29/2013 6:36:00 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: spankalib
Serotonin is a chemical in your body used to promote digestion thus it is mainly found in the stomach {98%}. The danger occurs when it migrates from the stomach to the brain and can bring in halucinations, physchotic behavior, and if untreated possibly death. An antidepressant increases that risk especially in patients who have Neurological impairments. Doctors are too scared {mainly by the media hype influence on government due to celebrity abuse} to write perscriptions for benzodiazepine class drugs such as Valium, Ativan, Xanax, which are for anxiety. That means there is a good chance an anxiety patient will be given the wrong class of medication.

I'll explain why. One of the most common causes of anxiety isn't Phobic/Traumatic event in origin. It's a secondary condition caused by a real primary disorder in their body. Vestibular Disorders are the main culprit in that respect and the most undiagnosed and overlooked. Most Shrinks do not recognize this. Many doctors prescribing antidepressants have not a clue to Serotonin Syndrome. I've seen their puzzled faces when told about it.

Some antidepressants like Trazodone aka Desyrel are used like candy in Geriatric medicine {elderly} and they can't handle the medication. I used to work in a nursing home. Patients who were rational in daytime became very different at night.

I'll post more this evening. I need to take my mother to see my sister at the memory care unit.

37 posted on 12/29/2013 10:57:15 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: spankalib
When a person isn't getting enough Serotonin and to the brain it can cause depression or the brain lacks a chemical and the type of antidepressants enhances the neurotransmitters. That is well and good if that is the actual problem. But if the system which processes the sensory impulses is damaged it can cause major issues.I am not anti antidepressants I am anti prescribing the wrong medication because of political pressures or media hysteria which in the case of this article is likely both. Antidepressants for those in true need are a blessing. I have family members who have to take them.

I learned what I did from some basic detective work and a book Phobia Free written by a Neurologist back in the late 1970's IIRC and he linked Anxiety Disorders to Inner Ear/Vestibular. Cerebellar disorders or damage. This gave me the info I needed to get on the right track for treatment. I was born with some damage including one eye functional vision and some screwed up responses to auditory and visual stimulation. Sinus allergies all throughout my childhood increased that damaged. So can chronic ear infections.

I had to take Occupational Therapy two years at about age 13 just to be able to walk straight. My feet because of this and Club feet break my shoes over to the side. I can destroy any quality shoe in less than a month without insoles to prevent it. Trying to play baseball I'd swing early, late, or duck away. I was also misdiagnosed as ADD ADHD. I took the therapy which taught me adaption even to the point I passed both my Navy and Army physicals.

At about age 36 I started having severe startle reactions to certain noises. I lost my ability to concentrate on work and things at home. I would go through episodes of what many call a brain fog. Out of the blue you have no idea where you are, why you are there, how you got there, where you are going, etc and it can be in a place you frequent like driving down the road like I was first episode of it. This is a sensory processing system crash and can be mistaken for several things including a nervous breakdown, stroke, etc. That part I learned to head off finally. But I have upper torso spasms triggered by auditory and visual stimulation.

My wifes condition her quadriplegia also helped me put the pieces together. Besides motor function the first thing quads loose is their Inner Ear function which must be regained on what is called a Tilt Table. My wife like myself is a vestibular patient.

My sister {my only sibbling} is a stroke, mental health issues, and Dementia patient. I am the first one one the notification list as the Memory Care unit. Last year in the early spring I sometimes got two calls a day telling me she had fallen. Now I can understand that sometimes happen but I began to notice it was happening especially when a major weather front was coming through. I documented it then talked to my niece and the facility nursing director. The nurse thankfully understood what I was telling her so we took sis to a doctor she had been seeing. Thankfully again he listened especially when I said that Inner Ear issues runs in the family & understood what I was saying and tried her on Valium. Her fall rate went to less than once a month immediately. She was falling because balance was made worse and because of the fact she had less tolerance for being in noise which when she fell she was trying to get away from and go to her room.

Here is another interesting event that helped me understand it better later on. My last night at work I got a trouble call to a residents apartment in the retirement home. I was a maintenance mechanic. I went to the apartment and the woman was in the hallway crying. I knew her and knew this wasn't her usual self. I asked her what was wrong? She said Oh the noise please make it stop. I could not hear any unusual noise so i said OK take me to the noise. She took me to her A/C unit at the wall. I turned it off and she was fine. Was she nuts? No! I told the nurse and she said yea she came home from the hospital like that.

I left and returned to the main building to my shop to eat supper. I was sitting down propped up in a chair when someone behind the double door yelled at somebody down the hall. I was like the cartoon cat that the dog sneaks up behind and barks. Then it started. The crash. I called a relief in because by law due to boilers we had to have someone there. I called my wife and by that time I could barely speak. I was aware very aware of what was around me. and what was otherwise going on. She called my dad to come and get me. That was my last night at work ever.

I had MRI, CAT Scans, and EEG of my brainwaves done all negative. That is common in Vestibular disorders for those test to be normal. At that point the doctor said OK it's Shrink time. What did this have to do with that laddie I mentioned? Everything. She likely had a basic good old fashioned Inner Ear infection and noises were driving her nuts.

I have a cousin with this as well but not to the extent of seizures. He spent tens of thousands on trying to get help. I told him have the doctor look into your Ear Infections as a kid. Finally a semi retired GP asked all the right questions. He asked him I see you were in Nam did you wear hearing protection? Did you have ear infections as a kid? He had tubes in his ears. he asked a few more questions and said you have Vestibular Damage and it is triggering anxiety. Here take this medication and it was a Benzo.

In the case of my wife her Shrink saw her about an hour before I took her too the ER and said up the Zoloft and see you in three months. The hospital had a Shrink come in whole had never seen her. In less than 5 minutes he also said up the Zoloft. When he saw her she was back to normal because they had discontinued the Trazodone and Zoloft for almost 72 hours and was treating her with Ativan which was the only thing they did right. Next day at noon in walks nurse with Zoloft. In one hours time she was out of it thrashing and hallucinating, That was when I went home and got on line and searched Trazodone +Zoloft +adverse reactions. I credit GOD for fast answers. I found an article written by a University of Tennessee Pharmacology professor warning about Serotonin Syndrome. The hospital was associated with that same university.

None of what I posted is fabricated. It is true life experiences. Worst part of it was in the ER because she was not mentally competent to sign for treatment I could not sign for her. Strangers did and this was about 13 yearss ago. This involved two ER's. The first one we left after I found her unconscious in her wheelchair and curtains drawn closed so no one could see her. I found her and said she needs help Stat. The ER doctor came in and looked and shrugged. I said you Stupid {word I never use} do something. We took her out and to another ER. At first they helped till I was honest and said we had left a previous ER. They made a call and lost interest fast calling in Mobile crisis instead. In that time no testing was done.

When her primary care doctor finally saw her after the hospital release she was shocked and said Oh My God because she had thrashed herself against the bed and was black and blue. Antidepressants are a medication not to be taken likely by doctor or patient nor is Benzos. A doctor should not be in fear of prescribing either one if it is what the patient needs.

Both doctor and patient need to be educated as to all possible side effects and possible adverse reactions. Antidepressants are acceptable by society, media, and politicians, because everyone knows someone taking them. But Woe unto Patient Jones taking a needed Benzo and the prescribing phyisican.

38 posted on 12/29/2013 3:57:12 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: LadyDoc; boop

Post 38 Ping. Honestly this is not directed at either of you. But this is something you might need to read just in case you ever see it happen.

39 posted on 12/29/2013 4:00:03 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe
Thank you for the input, cva.

The use of anxiolytics is VERY complex, as is the use of pain medicine (opiates).

In my experience, Xanax is not a great medicine for a couple of reasons.

First, it gets into the system fast, which is good, when you have a patient with say anxiety over flying in an airplane.

The big problem is it hits the same brain receptors as alcohol does, so you can figure that a person can easily get "hooked".

Its half-life is 3-5 hours, so once the effect has worn off, you're back to square one. An anxious patient who now has to deal with "rebound anxiety".

It ends up becoming a self-feeding addiction.

A patient is literally dependent on it. I rarely use it for this reason.

For truly anxious patients I go for something that lasts longer, like valium.

Low dose, and slow.

But it stays in the system longer.

For a person with generalized anxiety disorder, this is the way to go.

Not so many addiction problems.

The gold standard is some kind of anti-depressant with rare use of benzodiazepines.

Emphasis on rare.

All benzos are addictive. So use with great caution.

40 posted on 12/29/2013 6:32:39 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: boop
Thanks. My alcohol consumption is a few ounces of wine once or twice a year. I've been on Xanax 20 years and my wife for 28 with no issues as far as wanting or needing more or it not working anymore. We both take .5mg 3-4 times a day and it stays in the bloodstream. If I'm out and an attack hits I pull over and put one under my tongue so it works faster. I've done same in a Walmart where sound saturation triggers an attack. Most I have ever taken in a day? Six {actually two beyond my normal daily dosage} and that was maybe three or four times and I had to get us back home.

I started out on the wrong dosage of 2 MG twice a day which is where most of the issues and problems lie and after about 8 hours I was back into attacks. IOW rather than a higher MG it's better to spread out a lower MG more times per day. A different doctor cut it to .5mg 3-4 times a day and that allowed it to work all the time. It cut my daily use strength wise in half as well.

I've heard about the rebound anxiety but neither of us have experienced. Now if we forget to take it then at about the 12 mark our body lets us know. Yep were Benzo dependent. That said the idea of being confined to my home unable to interact with the outside world is a worse choice. I haven't taken Valium. I did about a year or so before onset take Librium and felt better than I had in years. After three months the doctor took me off of it.

My wife was put on it permanently after four doctors were checking her for a supposed heart attack. Finally they determined under stress a valve was closing down. No more episodes happened after it was prescribed. She took AD's for PTSD. Why? Because of an overdose or adverse reaction to a pain killer a dentist gave her that put her into hypothermia. Mepraghan I think was the drug. There was more but that triggered it and she was facing extraction of all her teeth.

The problem with the gold standard is the fact it is treating Phobic or Serotonin issue induced anxiety. Vestibular induced anxiety was mocked, ridiculed, and ignored up till the past few years where Vestibular research has validated it exist.

In the same respect it's ironic kids are often placed on Ritalin when they likely do not need it. That too ties in with what I'm saying. ADD ADHD has very close in symptoms of another likely more common issue called Central Auditory Processing Disorders. Kids with this have issues processing words especially verbal commands, sounds, and many times optics including reading difficulties or sentence structure difficulties like this and my previous post LOL.

Caffeine will not alter their state as it will with true ADD ADHD but something like a video game or a high action cartoon will trigger Cognitive behavior reactions. Mild antihistamines work for some kids with this. That's why I posted earlier I was misdiagnosed with ADD ADHD. Economic pressures in schools and Big Pharm feed the ADD ADHD epidemic. It's a funding bonanza for schools. C.A.P.D. isn't. C.A.P.D. usually means classroom adaption such as seating location so teachers lips can be read. Many CAPD patients can read lips faster than they can process auditory wise.

41 posted on 12/29/2013 7:23:14 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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I believe the Anxiety Disorders diagnoses explosion and the ADD ADHD explosion are of one and the same origin in most cases.

It is a change in our technology which has brought about the pushing to a persons limits of what some can process visual or auditory wise. You cross those limits and anxiety is the result. So is depression and loss of concentration. In my early school years in the 1960's one or two kids in the school had ADD ADHD. Anxiety disorders were rare in adults.

TV was still low action and in many homes black and white. Stores were not blaring out announcements, alarms, etc every few seconds. Classrooms had desk placed in a row facing the teacher not tables scattered about the room facing random directions as they are today. Many things have changed and these disorders have increased with those changes accordingly.

42 posted on 12/29/2013 7:39:19 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe
cva: I'm NOT judging you or your provider, but I would ask your doctor to consider something longer acting.

Taking any medication for as needed anxiety 3-4 times per day is a lot.

Since you've been taking it for 20 years it won't be "easy", but in the long run I will assure you that there are better options.

And take it from someone who knows anxiety myself, you will be much happier.

Remember what I said above.

Xanax lasts 3-5 hours, so it's no wonder you need it so often.

Nothing sucks worse than having anxiety that needs treatment multiple times per day.

Ask your doc about Xanax XR in a pinch.

It should last all day.

43 posted on 12/29/2013 10:59:10 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: boop
I'm taking the Xanax to tone down my senses. Toning down my sense is what helps control and limit anxiety. That and something that goes against all textbook protocol treatments which is avoidance or limiting exposure to triggers and it works. For example Cognitive Behavioral Therapy {CBT} etc will not help this. It would be like hitting your hand with a hammer to build up a tolerance to pain. It is Atypical GAD.

I am an insider so to speak trying to tell those treating this that they are not covering all bases. I can spot a Vestibular Anxiety patient in a Walmart for example by watching their reactions. It's the environment of the store triggering them due to sensory overload. I'll tell you one better. I was at a local rural gas station/store the other day. The store has a highly annoying high frequency Beep somehow connected to their security. It went off and I jerked. So did the guy 5 ft from me and I laughed. I said Oh you don't like that either huh? He said I'm getting over an incident where a loud noise went off beside me a few weeks ago. Remember the stories about vets in artillery units coming home and having intolerance to loud noises? Were they phobic or were they vestibular damaged? I had a full battery 155MM shoot go off about 50 ft from me in National Gaurd. I worked in very loud high pitch and low pitch noises in the machinery rooms on the ship for four years.

But the ones in Wally World or a grocerty store, Home depot, etc? Next trip on say a Friday evening watch the people. Used to Wally World had announcements for every single thing going on. A few persons shopping and by no means all would start becoming agitated but they did not know why. You'd see the deer in headlights look at the checkout and some leaving carts and walking off. They likely did not know why but they had enough and just wanted out of the store.

Don't get me wrong I don't sit at home 24/7. I get out daily. But for things like groceries I got to the store at midnight to shop. That way I'm not hearing announcements etc and my concentration is not broken. Some days my concentration is an hour or two others its only 15 minutes. That isn't GAD it is typical Vestibular symptoms. Look up Cognitive Aspects of Vestibular Disorders a good description of trying to multitask with this.

The reason I can get by on Xanax sometimes even as low as two a day is because I limit triggers and the half life level controls it. Another reason is these attacks by attacks I mean this definition

Stimulus-sensitive myoclonus is triggered by a variety of external events, including noise, movement, and light. Surprise may increase the sensitivity of the individual. IOW I spasm in my upper Torso violently from my shoulders up. It's as if someone hit me with a bucket of ice water or something the way I react. It's actually seizures. If I'm laying down trying to sleep and it hits I sometimes yell involuntarily. That is not Anxiety Disorder that is Sensory Processing Disorder producing anxiety two very different things with anxiety as a symptom m and not a disorder in itself but that's what i got labeled with was GAD.

The Xanax controls the seizures and limits associated anxiety. I can have as many as half a dozen episodes per minute. No doctor yet has explained it. Yes I've been tested for Epilepsy several times. If at home I won't take an extra pill usually most days it's two or three pills. I have another trick to head it off that works at home. I pick up my acoustic guitar and play it and that stops it usually.

On a bad day which can mean several things including a low pressure system moving in or the Menieres flares up etc I might take fourth pill. I can go sometimes by simply forgetting to take it 10-12 hours at home so I don't see an issue. At home I control triggers. The social security examiner gave me some advice that helped me figure out what was setting it off. Each attack I wrote down what I was doing and I saw the pattern. I control them as much as possible and have finally in the past couple of years managed to watch a few low action TV shows again.

My balance is getting worse two years ago I had four bad falls so I use a cane now when walking outside. My hearing level is 50% loss over entire spectrum and 60% at voice range. If I take out my hearing aids I have less attacks also.

If I don't head off the attacks chemically when we are out and I'm driving then two likely possibilities will happen. One is exhaustion physically and mentally from the seizures which is an inconvenience. The other I have not had happen in over ten years now which is the brain fog because I taught myself how to head it off. There isn't even a name that covers entirely what I have. LOL. I think it's because it's several disorders combined plus some sensory damage I was born with.

A Spinal Cord Rehab doctor, her Internal medicine Doctor, Cardiologist, and a Shrink put my wife on Xanax. I was there when they did it we were watching her heart beating. They were all in the room. All were in agreement. Had she not been on it she likely would be dead now due to Serotonin Syndrome. I don't mess with her medications especially ones that work for her. She can't handle Valium. The thing about this one patient may do well on Xanax and not on Valium and vice versa. I have to watch carefully eve what cold meds I take and I take Singluar and 20 mg of Claratin a day too boot for allergies even though I'm on shots for it. One more interesting thing. Before onset I had high blood pressure. I was on two meds for it and it would not come down. When I began Xanax it went normal and I'm on one BP Med now.

44 posted on 12/30/2013 12:46:17 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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