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Obamacare Ignites Revolution Inside The Democratic Party
moneymorning.com ^ | 12/31/13 | Money Morning Staff Reports

Posted on 12/31/2013 3:45:38 AM PST by Liz

As 2014 midterms approach, some Democrats are running-not walking-away from Obamacare....coming out of the woodwork to voice opposition.

•39th President Jimmy Carter: "His major accomplishment was Obamacare, and the implementation of it now is questionable at best."

•Barney Frank, former Massachusetts Congressman: "I think we paid a terrible price for health care."

•Former Democratic Presidential candidate, Howard Dean, a doctor: "The Affordable Care Act's Rate-Setting Won't Work."

Obamacare was primarily designed to decrease the number of uninsured Americans and reduce healthcare costs. But experts say it will have the exact opposite effect. What started as a promise to insure 40 million Americans has quickly morphed into another game of Washington politics. And average Americans are getting the short end-again.

.....on top of higher healthcare costs and skyrocketing deductibles, Americans will be hit with $1 trillion new taxes.....taxes that won't just affect those making over $250,000 a year......because while a majority of Obama's "stealth taxes" were designed to tax businesses, they're transferred directly to ordinary citizens.

According to former NY state Lt Governor Betsy McCaughey's extensive research, senior citizens will get hit the hardest. "If you're a senior or a baby boomer, expect less care," she says. "Hip and knee replacements and cataract surgery will be especially hard to get from Medicare." She warns seniors to get procedures done now before Obamacare goes into effect.

.... many will find it difficult to keep medical records private. "The law will compel Americans to share with millions of strangers who are not physicians confidential private and personal medical history." (from Betsy McCaughey's "Beating Obamacare: Your Handbook for Surviving The New Health Care Law.")


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Georgia; US: Massachusetts; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; abortion; barneyfrank; betsymccaughey; deathpanels; election2014; election2016; georgia; howarddean; jimmycarter; massachusetts; newyork; obamacare; vermont; zerocare

1 posted on 12/31/2013 3:45:38 AM PST by Liz
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AS FREEPER GOPJ INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: "Obamacare was designed to benefit Democrats" (and Democrat voting blocs to fulfill Obama's plans for a permanent Democratic majority):

<><> Blacks, browns, minorities, the melatonin-underclass, benefit because of low, or no, income,

<><> Gays benefit for preexisting conditions, like HIV, and other STD's.

<><>State-dependent women benefit - Dems work hard to undermine marriage, to make them state-dependent, to make them qualify.

<><> Union lefties were given exemptions.

Last but not least....

"Liberal Elites" get the best doctors - their offices cleared of us middle-class riff-raff... elites won't have to wait as long to see a doctor as Republican riff-raff.

SUMMING UP: Liberal elites got the gold. Republicans, conservatives, patriots, tea partiers, job-holders, the middle class, small business owners, etc....we got the shaft.

You say you don't vote Democrat? You get to pay for everything.

2 posted on 12/31/2013 3:47:44 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
Juan Williams, yes, JUAN WILLIAMS, has left the plantation. Apparently, he has just discovered that Obamacare is funded by the middle class. Yes, the middle class! Imagine that.

He said this on Brett Baier's show.

3 posted on 12/31/2013 3:58:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Liz
Melatonin?
4 posted on 12/31/2013 4:04:02 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Liz

"Liberty, Equality, Fraternity!"

5 posted on 12/31/2013 4:25:10 AM PST by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: Liz
the Obamacare plan was primarily designed to decrease the number of uninsured Americans and reduce healthcare costs.

Not at all. Obamacare was designed to force the middle-class through disguised healthcare insurance provisions to pay for healthcare for the lower middle class. Secondarily, Obamacare was designed not to "reduce healthcare costs" but to increase healthcare costs to the middle-class in order to pay for coverage for the lower middle class. That is why men and postmenopausal women are forced to pay for maternity insurance, for example.

Secondarily, these provisions were designed to deprive the middle-class of its chosen coverage in order to homogenize the system and eventually push these people into a single-payer system.

Because leftists value "equality" over liberty, Obamacare quite deliberately deprives the middle-class of choice in the selection of their insurance plans and quite deliberately imposes unreasonable plans on them. The ultimate goal: equality which is defined by the left to be single-payer or socialized medicine.

In its quest for equality, the left will not only sacrifice liberty but it will sacrifice quality. It is a matter of indifference to the left that the general level of healthcare will deteriorate under Obamacare because they believe it will ultimately standardize healthcare delivery and destroy the allocation of healthcare services according to a free-market. A free-market means capitalism, it means liberty, and these concepts are anathema to the statists. The idea of providing healthcare quality according to the willingness and ability of the recipient to pay are absolutely repugnant to leftists who do not accept a capitalist system. They want to substitute a system of distribution of healthcare services (and virtually every other good and service in every other aspect of life) according to political considerations, usually based on group identity.

Not incidentally, those goods and services will be apportioned to one group which we conservatives described as "elitists" these are the apparatchiks of the state and the policymakers and those who have their ear. These people will always receive an elevated level of healthcare and at a reduced cost. Leftists do not see anything wrong with this because it works according to their system. They are not buying the service and exploiting their "privileged" wealth position, they are accorded the service by virtue of their group identity, witness the favored status of our congressmen.


6 posted on 12/31/2013 4:30:11 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Liz
The uniparty will not repeal Obamacare. Without a single fingerprint on the law or its implementation, and despite it never polling a majority, the GOP will be browbeaten into “making it work.”

The bottom line is that reform will not emerge from Washington DC. We vote less for representatives who make law on our behalf, and more for a president who instructs his untouchable bureaucrats to make the law.

Our Framers gave us the peaceful means to do an end run around our oppressors. We must use Article V before it is too late.

7 posted on 12/31/2013 4:44:49 AM PST by Jacquerie (Circle you calendar. Mark Levin on C-Span In Depth January 5th at noon eastern.)
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To: Liz
That was just in 2013.

Wait until mid-2014.

8 posted on 12/31/2013 4:45:47 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: Liz

>>According to former NY state Lt Governor Betsy McCaughey’s extensive research, senior citizens will get hit the hardest. “If you’re a senior or a baby boomer, expect less care,” she says. “Hip and knee replacements and cataract surgery will be especially hard to get from Medicare.” She warns seniors to get procedures done now before Obamacare goes into effect.<<

If I am turned down for necessary surgery, me and the idiot who says I won’t be covered are going to have a long talk, which will result in coverage. Not a threat, but a promise.


9 posted on 12/31/2013 4:58:58 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: NTHockey

Heh-—nice going.


10 posted on 12/31/2013 5:00:44 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz
melatonin-underclass

Melatonin helps you sleep. Melanin makes you dark. Maybe you DID mean sleepy?

11 posted on 12/31/2013 5:02:47 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: HarleyD

Mmmmm....can hardly wait.


12 posted on 12/31/2013 5:03:04 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

It’s not over. The same that put the last real president in office, Reagan, will stop the velocity of money.


13 posted on 12/31/2013 5:04:16 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Liz
was primarily designed to decrease the number of uninsured Americans and reduce healthcare costs. But experts say it will have the exact opposite effect.

Ah, but 'Holder's people' will be fully covered - and who cares about the rest? [Holder's people will be well-covered, but not getting good care (where will they find doctors?)].

14 posted on 12/31/2013 5:04:33 AM PST by expat2
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To: Right Wing Assault

Oops. But both are good.


15 posted on 12/31/2013 5:04:40 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

DEMOCRAT party.

Not democratic. Democrat.


16 posted on 12/31/2013 5:24:38 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Jacquerie

“Without a single fingerprint on the law or its implementation, and despite it never polling a majority, the GOP will be browbeaten into “making it work.”

I disagree. The GOP showed its true stripes this fall in failing to defund Obamacare. The GOP has controlled the House of Representatives and all federal appropriations since January 2011 yet has been unwilling to defund Obamacare and go to the mat with Obama and the Senate on the issue. Their failure to defund Obamacare, when the majority of the American people oppose Obamacare, demonstrates the GOP is doing the bidding of the corporate interests who fund the party. Those corporate interest want to replace employer paid medical care with single payer government funded healthcare.

The GOP is not being browbeaten to do anything. Our GOP representatives are voluntarily doing the bidding of the big money corporations who benefit from big government. With the exception of the Reagan years, the GOP in modern times has always supported big corporation, and big government, ahead of small business and the average citizen.


17 posted on 12/31/2013 5:35:46 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
What is the solution?
18 posted on 12/31/2013 5:42:28 AM PST by Jacquerie (Circle you calendar. Mark Levin on C-Span In Depth January 5th at noon eastern.)
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To: Liz
Obamacare was primarily designed to decrease the number of uninsured Americans and reduce healthcare costs. But experts say it will have the exact opposite effect.

Do tell? Cruz was right you say..

19 posted on 12/31/2013 5:45:01 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Liz

Too bad they didn’t read it before they past it. Thanks Nancy, you witch.


20 posted on 12/31/2013 5:49:48 AM PST by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: Jacquerie

Picture if you will the two class society as it existed in the Soviet Union.

Imagine, if you were taking a successful country and turning it into the Soviet Union, how would you do it?

You do nt have to look any further the Obama administration. Obamacare is designed to do two things and two things only. Bankrupt the middle class and implement universal health care for the proles after the middle class is destroyed.

The party faithful and the elites are exempt.

The only thing keeping the United States from becoming the Soviet Union is the second amendment.


21 posted on 12/31/2013 5:52:31 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Replacing Obama will not prevent another demagogic president, nor reverse our trend into harder tyranny.

I say again, what is the solution?

22 posted on 12/31/2013 6:06:52 AM PST by Jacquerie
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“Replacing Obama will not prevent another demagogic president, nor reverse our trend into harder tyranny. I say again, what is the solution?”

You cannot come back to the middle without going radically to the right. It’s not just getting rid of Obama. It is purging the government/media complex. It is the systematic dismantling of the public education system. It is the review and remanding of bad laws and worse policy which stifles individual growth and opportunity.

It is the realization that there isn’t one pie to be sliced up but many pies that can expand and retract based soley on free market forces.

In my opinion, the solution is destroying anything and everything the left supports, and once done, making sure the left can never rise again.


23 posted on 12/31/2013 6:50:52 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: Liz

Wonder how long before Hollywood brings back the old TV program This Your Life that posts someone’s history?.


24 posted on 12/31/2013 8:03:29 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Okay, how do you propose to purge Leftist control of our institutions?


25 posted on 12/31/2013 8:14:35 AM PST by Jacquerie
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To: nathanbedford

You have very well summed it up.


26 posted on 12/31/2013 8:33:19 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: Jacquerie

“Okay, how do you propose to purge Leftist control of our institutions?”

Take away funding. “Based on your intolerance towards students and anti free speech policies, you have been deemed an institution promoting anti American values therefore your funding is being pulled.”.

Now force them to defend.

Reagan beat the Soviets by going on offense. He also forced them to spend money defending themselves. That’s how you win.


27 posted on 12/31/2013 8:47:27 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: Duckdog

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard”.-
H. L. Mencken


28 posted on 12/31/2013 10:24:41 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Take away funding.

We'll do that which hasn't happened in our history? Elect men and women so virtuous they'll stand athwart Washington DC culture and defund the Leftist juggernaut?

29 posted on 12/31/2013 11:19:53 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Jacquerie

“What is the solution?”

I see three options:

1) Reform the Republican Party from the inside. This approach, which has been tried since Reagan in 1980, does not seem to be working.
2) A new “Liberty” party which would include the Tea Party backers and traditional conservatives. To pull off a new party some of the big names (Palin, Cruz, Lee, Jindal, Haley, possibly Gingrich) would have to break off from the Republican Party along with 100 or more Republican House members and 20+ Republican Senators. Then a strong showing in the 2014 and 2016 elections at the state, local, and presidential ticket for the new party. In addition, the new party will need some strong financial backing.
3) Breaking up the current republic. It may be the long term solution is for the core blue urban states (Northeast, West Coast, and upper midwest) to separate from the flyover states and southeast. Let the blue states be socialist/communist while the core red states form a new republic based on the limited government principles of the founding.


30 posted on 12/31/2013 4:36:12 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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