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Why some Catholics think Obama is master of deception
CNN ^ | 12-30-13 | Ashley McGuire

Posted on 12/31/2013 8:55:55 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

It was the 2013 Politifact "Lie of the Year," our president's now infamous line: "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it." Now all Americans are realizing what Catholics have known from the beginning: President Barack Obama is a master of deception.

Lest people forget, passage of the Affordable Care Act happened in part because Obama struck a deal with a single Catholic holdout: Bart Stupak, D-Michigan. Stupak agreed to vote for the bill in exchange for an executive order protecting conscience rights and preserving the Hyde Amendment's ban on the use of federal funds for abortion. Stupak had insisted on an amendment. Instead, he took the President's word.

The President turned around and stuck in the knife: He used the ACA to mandate that all employers, regardless of religious objection, pay for and provide what many of us in the anti-abortion movement consider abortion drugs in their health care plans. Now, those mandates go into effect for most religiously affiliated charities in just a few days, on January 1.

This came after the President assured Catholics in his commencement address at Notre Dame that he would "honor the conscience of those that disagree with abortion and draft a sensible conscience clause" and after assuring Congress that "under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience protections will remain in place."

In speaking to America's pre-eminent Catholic university, it was as if the President was speaking to American Catholics everywhere.

Yet it's now clear that the promised separate accounts for abortion coverage funded by separate abortion premiums billed directly to the insured were not what they appeared to be, and the President is facing one of the largest religious liberty lawsuits in American history.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; anticatholicbigotry; dolan; lawsuit; obamacare; plaintiffs; scotus; stupak
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This is an excellent analysis. Read the whole thing.
1 posted on 12/31/2013 8:55:56 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; NYer; Salvation; narses

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2 posted on 12/31/2013 8:57:15 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I haven’t read the article, but it strikes me that true masters of deception don’t get caught, or at least don’t stay caught.

Obama is a chronic, compulsive liar, but certainly is no master of deception.

Now Bill Clinton — he was a master of deception.


3 posted on 12/31/2013 9:00:11 AM PST by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

No one is deceived by Obama unless they want to be deceived. His methods and purposes have been transparent since he rose from the Chi-town muck.


4 posted on 12/31/2013 9:01:17 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
President is facing one of the largest religious liberty lawsuits in American history.

Lawsuit is a joke. Going no where. King Obama is a dictator and his rule wants to place every American as slaves to his communists empire. And he is doing a damn good job. So Catholics enjoy your vote. By the way, Catholics miss Romney yet?

5 posted on 12/31/2013 9:02:09 AM PST by Logical me
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To: afraidfortherepublic

so....a majority of my Catholic neighbors voted for the Master of Deception?

Sounds about right.


6 posted on 12/31/2013 9:02:39 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: afraidfortherepublic
For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God's chosen ones.
Mathew 24:24

7 posted on 12/31/2013 9:03:57 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Now all Americans are realizing what Catholics have known from the beginning: President Barack Obama is a master of deception.

I saw this before he even ran for president, and why I oposed his senate campaign. Too bad more didn't see the writting on the wall back then.

8 posted on 12/31/2013 9:06:10 AM PST by cotton
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is from CNN? I guess this falls under the broken clock idiom.


9 posted on 12/31/2013 9:06:11 AM PST by Fair Paul
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Maybe because they know a little something about Black Liberation Theology?

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
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SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

10 posted on 12/31/2013 9:07:39 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Liberation Theology and the KGB

Jay Richards | February 2, 2010

The presence of Marxism in liberation theology is well-known, at least to seminarians who are critical readers. Practically every seminarian reads Gustavo Gutierrez’s Theology of Liberation at some point, but most laypeople find it hard to believe that there could have been (and continues to be) a widespread attempt to hybridize Christian theology and Marxism.

Marxist regimes obviously benefitted from the spread of liberation theology in the churches. Still, I was not aware of any connections between liberation theology and communist clandestine organizations until now.

A new article by Robert D. Chapman in the International Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence begins to connect some dots. In “The Church in Revolution,” Chapman, “a retired operations officer in the Clandestine Services Division of the Central Intelligence Agency,” argues that the KGB infiltrated the Russian Orthodox Church through Metropolitan Nikodim, the Russian Orthodoxy’s second-ranking prelate. Nikodim was a proponent of liberation theology. Nikodim was active in the otherwise-Protestant World Council of Churches. And the WCC, of course, became an actively left-wing organization during the last half of the 20th century.

Chapman also details the growth of liberation theology in Latin America—and the Vatican’s struggles with it—and the growth of black liberation theology in the United States. Prominent proponents of the latter include James Cone and Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

The arguments of liberation theologians should be challenged on their merits. The source of an argument, after all, doesn’t establish its truth or falsity. Still, it’s interesting to learn that liberation theology may have been, at least in part, a project of the KGB.

Unfortunately, this isn’t just history. Chapman concludes ominously:

"the Theology of Liberation doctrine is one of the most enduring and powerful to emerge from the KGB’s headquarters. The doctrine asks the poor and downtrodden to revolt and form a Communist government, not in the name of Marx or Lenin, but in continuing the work of Jesus Christ, a revolutionary who opposed economic and social discrimination.

A friend of mine, a head of Catholic social services in my area and formerly a priest, is a liberation theologian. He has made a number of humanitarian trips to Central America and told me, ‘‘liberation theology is alive and well.’’ The same can be said of its sibling in the United States [ie, Black Liberation Theology]."

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2010/02/liberation-theology-and-the-kgb/

11 posted on 12/31/2013 9:08:06 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“In speaking to America’s pre-eminent Catholic university, it was as if the President was speaking to American Catholics everywhere.”


Speaking of the Notre Dame speech, does anyone know if charges against the pro-life demonstrators were withdrawn?


12 posted on 12/31/2013 9:11:22 AM PST by rwa265
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Saying Notre Dame is America’s pre-eminent Catholic university is like saying Edward Snowden is the NSA’s contractor of the year.


13 posted on 12/31/2013 9:15:13 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Fact is white Catholics voted for MR over BHO by about 59% to 40%——about the exact same proportion as the overall white vote.

Truth is racial ID is a far bigger determining factor in voting behavior than religious ID.


14 posted on 12/31/2013 9:15:15 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Stupak was and is an idiot, stupid, ignoramus... I spit on his name.


15 posted on 12/31/2013 9:17:43 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Logical me
Lawsuit is a joke.

It's the only 'burr' to put under the saddle at this time. If we can get the suit before real CONSTITUTIONAL JUDGES and take it all the way, we will see where is the joke.

16 posted on 12/31/2013 9:19:10 AM PST by cotton
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To: Fair Paul

Yeah...”thinks he’s a “master of deception” but I’d rather just think of him as one of the biggest liars in history that has an army of brainess liberal twits (assistants) who worship their idol and will do anything he asks them to without question (the reason they got hired in the first place) or thought. No critical thinkers are allowed in the box. Master no. Liar and manipulator, yes.


17 posted on 12/31/2013 9:21:54 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Now all Americans are realizing what Catholics have known from the beginning: President Barack Obama is a master of deception.

Excellent analysis? Balderdash. If any recognizable group is responsible for the residence in the WH of this abortionist, marxist, islamist impostor and his re-election, it is Catholics ... who gave him 53% of their votes, despite his flagrant anti-Christian stance on a wide variety of social issues ... like gay marriage. On these issues alone, if their Catholicism meant anything at all, the % should have logically been "0" %. One might expect overwhelming support for Obama from ultra-liberal Jews, the politically immature African-Americans, and the LGBTG community ... but 53% from Catholics! Infamy!

The American Catholic Church, such as it is, still remains officially if inexplicably, in the Democrat Party camp. This is especially true of the Conference of Bishops and Catholic women! Illogicality has many sociological explanations. Talk to Wetleg Buckley, BOR, Joe Biden, Nancy P., etc. ad catolicam nauseam.

18 posted on 12/31/2013 9:22:57 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (OK, Obama be bad. Now where's OUR Program, Plan, and Leader?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Obama may be a lot of things, all bad for the Republic, but a master of deception he is not. He and his ilk have laid out their agenda in the light of day for the last 30 years. I have always found the person who votes for a Democrat and says “I vote for the person” to be the biggest self deceivers. A Democrat is a Liberal, and a Liberal is a Democrat, even so called blue dogs are liberals. So if anybody thought other wise for the last 30 years, well shame on them. They are either too stupid or completely self deluded.


19 posted on 12/31/2013 9:26:14 AM PST by gusty
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

95% of Black Protestants voted for Obama. But what will the Protestants do about this? Nothing?


20 posted on 12/31/2013 9:26:29 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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