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To: Jim Robinson

What is being ignored is how many people just got on free medicare vs those actually purchasing plans thru Obamacare.

In Maryland, 30,000 signed up for free medicare vs 4,000 who got a private plan. Of those 4,000, most have not paid a cent yet and most are subsidized (i.e. you pay some of their cost)


86 posted on 01/02/2014 12:14:01 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: icwhatudo
What is being ignored is how many people just got on free medicare Medicaid vs those actually purchasing plans thru Obamacare.

In Maryland, 30,000 signed up for free medicare Medicaid vs 4,000 who got a private plan.

Careful here ic. There is a hugh difference between Medcaid and Medicare.

Medicare is NOT free. You're paying for Medicare everytime you get a paycheck. And I did too, all my working life.

Of course Medicaid is not a free program, either. It's primarily for low income people, but it's funded via federal income taxes, not something deducted directly from your paycheck as Medicare is.

181 posted on 01/02/2014 6:31:10 PM PST by upchuck (My Internet addiction is so bad... it's alt of ctrl.)
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To: icwhatudo

“What is being ignored is how many people just got on free medicare vs those actually purchasing plans thru Obamacare.”

You’re probably referring to MedicAID and not MedicARE.

In early October, one woman I saw interviewed had been on the site just surfing to get basic info. Suddenly a screen appeared congratulating her that she was enrolled in Medicaid when she had not enrolled in anything, and she was pissed. She was middle-class, not destitute, and well above traditional guidelines for Medicaid.

I’ve heard that if a person receives Medicaid, when he dies ALL of his assets go to the government. If true, why WOULDN’T Obama enroll everyone possible in Medicaid? That fact, combined with his death panels, create a revenue generating wet dream for The Evil One.

And, re MedicARE, it’s not free. I paid into it for my 50+ working years via mandatory payroll deduction. Now, they take $105/month mandatory (deducted from SS check). They take an additional ~$50/month because of prior high earnings (deducted from my SS check). They mandate that I buy a prescription plan (Plan D) even though I take no prescriptions, and that’s $12/month (I pay to an insurance company). Then, tied to Plan D, they take an additional ~$12/month because of prior high earnings (deducted from my SS check). Then I buy a Medigap Supplemental at $100/month (I pay to an insurance company) because coverage under mandatory Medicare and/or an Advantage Plan sucks. (I could have declined Plan D at the outset, but most likely would never be allowed in at a later date or, if allowed to participate later, the cost would extremely high.)

So, even though the mandates surrounding Lucifercare are outrageous, people over 65 have been dealing with similar crap for years, i.e., the government dictating their healthcare.


208 posted on 01/03/2014 6:54:27 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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