"Wonder when the Pope will chime in to tell the Sisters to give it up."
To answer your question: Never.
Posted on 01/04/2014 2:22:01 PM PST by grundle
Read Psalm 94; it is the cry of the righteous against state-sponsered wickedness.
God will not tolerate those who attempt to force His people to partake of iniquity.
That sort of wickedness that goes unchecked and unrepented will not go unnoticed.
They offered the same thing to Thomas More.
I find some satisfaction in hearing Benghazi Barry fears assassination...
“all the nuns have to do is sign a form and their legal problems will go away, according to Fox News.”
They offered the same thing to Thomas More.
Great post
bttt
Got a Pope quote to back up your absurd statement.
It's always "just a piece of paper," the new tax is "just one more dollar," it's "just people who are already here," it's "just a few isolated fraudulent votes."
-PJ
And it is always a lie.
Get Thee To A Gunnery Runnery!
The nuns’ Messiah is stronger than Holder’s.
Do these Nuns support amnesty? If so, no sympathy for them.
The United States head of the Justice Department, Eric Holder, is an unscrupulous enforcer of Obama’s unconstitutional orders. He has a long record of supporting terrorists, criminals, and of lawless abuse of power. His attacks to the Catholic nuns are other shameful dealings in his long infamous record at the Department of Justice.
ERIC HOLDER, POSSIBLY THE MOST CORRUPT ATTORNEY GENERAL IN THE HISTORY OF UNITED STATES.
by Angie Anderson on May 30, 2013
Ok ladies and gentleman it is time to revisit the crimes and ideological inequities of our Attorney General, Eric Holder, a man who cannot force himself to say Islamic Terrorist.
This time good ole Eric just may have really caught it in his zipper. It looks like Holder’s lies, invincible incompetence, and overall maleficence during his term of office, culminating with his absolute lies over the Fox News fiasco, will bring him down.
However, he and Obama are so closely intertwined politically and ideologically, I mean they are really partners in crime. Because of that relationship, nothing is certain with this corrupt crew.
Maybe Holder has so much on Obama that Obama won’t be able to ask him to resign. If that occurs, it will be very bad for both of them. That’s a very good thing.
However, there is one huge bright spot in this whole mess. There is no way in hell Holder can now ever be confirmed to be a member of the Supreme Court of the United States. I have always thought that was Obama’s next step for him.
At this time, Eric Holder genuinely deserves a review of every radical, nonsensical, criminal, stupid decision he has made in the last five years. So here we go.
In Shakespeare’s play, Henry V Part 2, there is a line that says, “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers”. Now I am not advocating killing anyone.
But I sure would like to see one lawyer lose his job. That lawyer would be Eric Holder.
Let us take a look at President Obama’s choice for Attorney General, Eric Holder. Just who is this man and what is his background?
Eric Holder’s past is a record of radical left wing ambitions, bending law to fit racist group’s political desires and subservience to whatever outrageous deeds his political masters instruct him to accomplish.
So let’s take a look at some of his past acts. When Holder served as Deputy Attorney General for the Clinton administration, it was he who engineered, under President Clinton’s direction, the controversial grant of clemency that freed members of the FLAN and Los Macheteros.
They were Puerto Rican nationalist groups who wanted the U.S. out of Puerto Rico and had turned to terrorism in order to try and accomplish that end. He took that action over the strong objections of many career officers in the Department Of Justice. Not the first time or the last time Holder has ignored or dismissed objections from professional career officers in the DOJ for his own or his masters political/ideological reasons.
The sixteen members of the FLAN and Los Macheteros were serving time after a trial in New York City for bank robbery, possession of explosives, six murders, armed robberies, participating in a seditious conspiracy and hundreds of injuries to innocent people, they had been found guilty and were put in prison.
Why would a Deputy Attorney General do whatever he had to do, and that must have been a lot of arm twisting, pressure on the right people perhaps even some kind of bribery in order to get these murderous terrorist criminals pardoned?
Well here is what I believe. Hillary Clinton was running her first Senatorial campaign in New York about that time. Guess what, with all the favorable publicity generated by that pardon in the Hispanic areas of New York City, she swept those areas with big majorities and won that election.
That’s right, with her husband Bill’s pardon, engineered by Holder, flying on here flag post, Hillary won and common sense makes it clear that is what the pardon was all about.
Might the pardon have been a little payback for Monica, yuh think? I know I know, even Hillary got embarrassed about the pardon and at the last minute before the election refuted it, but by that time she had all the benefits from it. Cunning plan Hillary.
However, that act of legal malfeasance was far from his last or even his most disreputable. There is the infamous Marc Rich pardon. Marc Rich was an international fugitive who had duped our government out of loads of cash.
President Clinton had pardoned this fugitive on the recommendation of Holder his Deputy Attorney General and for Clinton’s own corrupt reasons. At that time Rich was on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list, accused of racketeering, defrauding the United States Treasury out of tens of millions of dollars and trading with our Nations enemies including Iran. Rich had supplied Iran with funds Iran desperately needed while Khomeini’ embargoed regime kept American Diplomats prisoner and held them as hostages.
When an outraged Congress summoned Holder to explain his actions, Holder’s testimony was rambling and often incredible, saying he didn’t really know much about the Marc Rich case. He was consistent on the subject of his own ignorance about Marc Rich. Holder’s protestations of ignorance do not stand even shallow scrutiny. Holder knew Rich well. To be clear, before the pardon scandal convinced Holder it was in his best interest to profess ignorance about his knowledge of Rich, Holder was on record with media bragging about how his office was cracking down on Marc Rich’s financial crimes.
So the question is why did Clinton tell Holder to set up a pardon for Rich? Since Rich’s whole life was a record of self-serving financial chicanery, my inclination would be to believe there was money involved. Remember Clinton was on his way out of the White House at that time and the news stories were saying he and Hillary were even stealing the White House china.
Oh by the way, Holders claim not to be aware of the Rich case sounds a lot like his claim he wasn’t aware of anything to do with Fast and Furious until months after Brian Terry (the Border Patrol Agent) was murdered. I mean I know people who don’t know much, but this clown tries convincing us he doesn’t even suspect anything.
President Obama says “I have complete confidence in Attorney General Holder”. I wonder why? Pick almost any unnecessary, losing battle Obama has been involved in and his dumb ass Attorney General is at the center of it.
Almost immediately after Obama took office, Holder convinced the President to announce the closure of the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, without even examining the feasibility of doing so. Not only did the President suffer the indignity of missing the deadline he and Holder had demanded, (remember this is when Obama was at the height of his popularity), but the Democrat controlled Senate voted 90 to zero to block funds for Guantanamo’s closure. Oh by the way, Guantanamo is still open and despite Obama’s current and future ranting’s, Obama must know his own party will never give him the votes to close it.
The next incredibly stupid action Holder recommended was his decision to release classified Justice Department memos on the CIA terrorist interrogation program and reopen a criminal investigation into the conduct of CIA investigators in order to placate the far left wing of the Democrat Party.
It didn’t matter to Holder that five CIA directors including Leon Panetta, Obama’s choice as CIA director, all vigorously objected to Holder’s action. According to the Washington Post, Holder did not even read detailed memos that previous career prosecutors drafted and placed in files to explain their adamant decisions to decline prosecutions. Once more Holder claims ignorance because he didn’t know what was going on at his department; this was a prosecution that had no chance of happening.
Did Holder set this up just to make his radical left wing supporters feel good? After two years of wasted money, resources and needless controversy, Holder came up empty.
What a guy.
Then Holder gave the order to read the Christmas Day Bomber, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab a Miranda warning after just 50 minutes of questioning.
After Miranda, Abdulmutallab shut up and we didn’t get much from him thereafter. Holder did not consult any high level intelligence or national security officials prior to the Miranda warning (are we seeing a pattern here). If our professional intelligence personnel had been making that decision, Abdulmutallab would have been under intensive debriefing for at least several days if not weeks.
We now know he was an Al Queida operative and he had valuable information we did not get. There is no doubt with that action Holder cost this country valuable anti-terrorist intelligence. Of course given his overall beliefs, Holder probably does not really care about that.
The next catastrophic error made by Holder as A.G. was his and Obama’s attempt to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and other 9/11 terrorists in federal court in New York City.
This is where some very serious radical left wing ideology, potentially destructive to the United States, comes into play by Holder. Why would Holder and Obama want to try KSM and other 9/11 terrorists in a civilian court in New York City? And to answer that question one has to go into some murky ideologically motivated details.
There is an outfit called the “Center for Constitutional Rights” run by a man named Michael Ratner. To give an idea who Ratner is and what he believes in check this out.
Ratner wrote a book called, “The Trial of Donald Rumsfeld” which attempted to set up Rumsfeld for a war crimes trial. He also published another book declaring Che Guevara a heroic guerilla. I guess he missed that part of Guevara’s career where Guevara murdered several people being held prisoner by Castro in a Havana sports stadium with a baseball bat. That tell us everything we need to know about Ratner.
The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) has received over 2.5 million dollars in funding from George Soros and his affiliates. One of those affiliates listed by CCR as a partner in their radical efforts is a law firm, Covington and Burling, who employs many far left attorneys.
Covington and Burling was Eric Holders law firm for eight years prior to his becoming Obama’s Attorney General. Covington and Burling proudly list among its achievements their help in winning Constitutional habeas corpus rights for Islamic terrorists held in Guantanamo, allowing them to sue in U.S. courts for their release.
Holder’s law firm did this with the full blessing and support from Eric Holder. Of course these humanitarians did all this work pro bono. I imagine the Americans who lost loved ones on 9/11 and those who lost sons and daughters to these radical jihadists in our war against militant Islam must feel all warm and fuzzy about that.
Holder is not the only lawyer from Covington and Burling serving in the D.O.J. He brought many more with him and also many more from other far left law firms in this country. Ok, now think about it. Obama and Holder wanted to try KSM and other 9/11 terrorists in New York City. We know who the defending attorneys would have been, the most radical lawyers to be found in this country. Militant Islamists thru their financial connections in the Middle East would have paid big money to hire them.
But who would have been the prosecuting attorneys? The attorneys who would have been responsible for prosecuting KSM? Oh Oh, why of course the same type of radical attorneys from firms like Covington and Burling and the Center for Constitutional Rights that Eric Holder brought with him and who are now ensconced in Holders D.O.J. Can you sense an agenda here?
Think about the attorneys who would have been defending KSM. Think about them as mob attorneys defending Mafia killers for money, but instead of money, the real currency for those attorneys is ideology. These radicals despise traditional American values and spend much of their careers trying to destroy the American system of government. What a circus the trial in New York would have been, both the prosecution and defense trying to make America a mockery to the world. And that is just what Obama and Holder wanted to have done. There is no other reason that makes any sense for that outrageous attempt.
However we Americans are not as dumb as some hope we are. In the face of an overwhelming national backlash, the Obama administration and its D.O.J. were forced to back down and it had to announce the resumption of military trails at Guantanamo. But that’s OK because Obama has total confidence in you as A.G. Eric
For his next blunder, Holder withdrew the law suit against the New Black Panther Party (why new, they are just as bad as the old one) for violations of the voting rights act. Holder did so over the objections of six career lawyers at the D.O.J. Again Holder takes the low road and overrides experience career officers in order to further advance his own ideological agenda. His direction that violations by black perpetrators be treated differently than those by whites is on its face racism.
And this is the Attorney General selected and supported by President Obama. Why am I not surprised?
How about Holder suing the State of Arizona over its immigration law 1070? It’s bad enough that Obama and his gang refuse to provide the manpower to protect our southern border from illegal immigration, the poison the drug cartels are pouring into our country and the fact that our southern border is being penetrated by sleeper cells from countries that have great desire to do us harm.
But for Holder to admit to Congress that he actually had not read the law, but was relying on T.V. and media coverage to make his decision to sue Arizona is incredible. I mean you just can’t make this stuff up. Since then several other States have passed similar immigration laws, and Holder is suing some of them as well.
I guess the left wing of our country doesn’t really mind that 10 to 20 million illegals are roaming around this country, undocumented and unaccounted for and whose primary loyalty is not to the United States of America. In today’s crazy world that is beyond insane.
How about “Fast and Furious”? Facts unfavorable to Holder and Obama have continued to emerge from their attempts to do a massive cover up. Holder continues to give Americans who can still think for themselves, reasons to doubt his ability to lead the D.O.J. in a constitutional manner.
We have had the national embarrassment of a U.S. Deputy Attorney General from Holders D.O.J. taking the 5th amendment so he does not have to testify to Congress about his knowledge of the Fast and Furious program.
Are you kidding me? The 5th protects Americans from having to testify against their best interests and provide testimony that might implicate them in a criminal act among other things. But a U.S. Deputy A.G. from Holders office taking it so as to not have to answer questions from Congress about that program, I mean come on man, what the hell is going on? Well I guess we are beginning to understand what the hell is going on with this A.G.
Over three years ago a United States Border Patrol agent was gunned down and murdered by a weapon linked to this botched program. Holder and his D.O.J. have spent more time trying to cover their asses than providing any accountability for this catastrophe. We have for sure two Americans dead.
How many Mexican nationals have been killed? The numbers go into the hundreds because of this operation which was approved by Holder and his D.O.J. and other agencies he controls. I mean he is the Attorney General of the United States of American, God help us. Over 2,000 weapons purchased under this program have disappeared and no one has any idea where they are.
The cruel reality is that there is a high probability most if not all of them are in the hands of drug cartel killers in Mexico and dangerous criminals in this country. The only way this insane program makes sense is that it was a covert attempt at an attack on 2nd amendment gun rights in this country.
Think back to Obamas speech to Sara Brady and her anti-gun group in April 2011. He was assuring that group that he was striving to put gun control in place under his administration. He said “We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar” Obama and Holders Fast and Furious program had started in 2009. By 2010 F&F was in full swing and to the best of Obama and Holders ability, “under the radar”.
If he majority of the people in this country want to change our 2nd amendment rights through constitutional processes, that is the way it should be done, but never by thug politics. But talk about the gang that couldn’t shoot straight, these fools turned their botched program into one giant cluster flop.
Of course Holder claims he had no knowledge about F&F because (guess what) he hadn’t read the numerous memos that came across his desk. Again do we see a pattern here? Oh yeah. Holder testified to Congress on May 3rd 2011 he had misspoke about when he first heard of the F&F program. He changed his testimony from a few weeks to maybe a couple of months.
That means he told Congress he hadn’t known about the program before the first part of March 2011. But a document dump from the D.O.J. presented to Congress on Friday, January 27, 2012 showed he had received an e-mail from U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke informing him that Brian Terry had been shot and killed by a suspected drug cartel member with a weapon that was part of the F&F gun running program.
Holder received that information from Burke on 15 December 2010, the day after Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry died and months before Holder perjured himself on that subject in front of Congress. By the way, why do these morons think that if they schedule a document dump that contains inflammatory information late on a Friday in order to miss the Friday night news cycle, everyone will have forgotten about it by Monday?
I know we have all heard by now that Obama and Holder’s F&F program was just a carry on from a similar program started under President Bush. I mean Obama and Holder have said so and their lap dog media partners have broadcast that lie to us. However, like most things said by those usual suspects it is, misinformation, disinformation, half-truths and dammed lies. So here are the facts on Wide Receiver (Bush’s Program) and Fast and Furious the program started under Obama and Holder.
Wide receiver was a program involving Phoenix based ATF agents working with Mexican law enforcement, ATF supervisors and Justice Department prosecutors in Arizona. They were building cases against violent groups of Mexican drug smugglers.
Fast and Furious was a program intended to build a case against American gun dealers and the Second Amendment to our Constitution.
That’s a stark difference. Ok, so let’s lay out how they both were put in place and worked.
Wide Receiver began in 2005. It involved four hundred guns, not 2,000. All of the weapons in Wide Receiver had RFID trackers installed in them and they were actively tracked. Only Phoenix, ATF and the DOJ were involved in this country. The Mexican government was kept fully informed. They were an active participant. In Wide Receiver, the ATF agents tried to track the guns using radio devices and aircraft in order to find out where the guns ended up and what cartels received them so that cases could be made against them.
The Bush administration, as part of Wide Receiver, notified the Mexican government when arms were being walked across the border and when they had been purchased. The Mexican Government was always notified. At least one thousand four hundred arrests were made as part of Wide Receiver. However, the cartels discovered the RFID tracking devices were in the guns and were disabling the tracking devices. Once that information was discovered, the program was canceled in 2007.
Now here is Fast and Furious by contrast. F&F began in October 2009. Obama is in his tenth month as President. Wide Receiver doesn’t exist, it had been canceled in 2007 two years before. F&F involved over 2,000 guns not 400. No tracking devices were placed in the F&F guns. Holder and Obama didn’t care where they ended up. No effort was ever made to track them. No aircraft involved. There was no on the ground surveillance of the straw purchasers. None. The guns were sold, they were walked across the border and that was it! The Mexican Government was NOT notified the program even existed. The local ATF field agents were ordered NOT follow the straw purchasers. F&F was as bad a program as everything you have ever heard about it!
Wide Receiver had NOTHING in common other than guns crossing the U.S. Mexican border. Federal agents were not allowed to interdict the guns and they even ran interference for the straw purchasers with local law enforcement on multiple occasions to make sure those guns made it across the border. While there were over 1,400 arrests because of Wide Receiver I can find not one arrest of a Mexican drug cartel member because of F&F.
Finally some brave ATF agents could no longer take the obviously insane actions F&F was condoning and blew the whistle on the whole program. Holder’s people took action to suspend those brave people who have probably lost their careers.
Obama and Holders attempt to subvert the 2nd Amendment with F&F, and their desire to institute a drastic change in our gun control laws, “UNDER THE RADAR”, have caused the death of two of our Border Patrol Agents and hundreds of Mexican nationals.
Let’s recap this man’s record as Attorney General. He failed to conduct even a cursory review before pushing Obama to close Guantanamo. He failed to read the memos in which career prosecutors explained why the CIA prosecutions were a legal dead end. He failed to consult the intelligence community before giving the Christmas bomber a Miranda warning. He failed to understand why Americans would not put up with trying KSM and other terrorists in a civilian court in New York City. He failed to read the Arizona immigration law before publicly opposing it. He failed his duty as A.G. to supervise the F&F program and shut it down. This could be a record of gross incompetence by an Attorney General. Or is it evidence of the ideology Holder and Obama are engaged in to “fundamentally change America” (their words, remember)?
April 25th 2013
Today, Eric Holder with the approval of President Obama again evoked Miranda rights on a terrorist before an interrogation probing for real time intelligence could be completed. The second bomber lawyered up and no further worthwhile information was forthcoming. Dzhoikhar Tsarnaev stopped giving FBI agents any information after only 16 hours of interrogation.
Of course I suppose that has to be looked at as an improvement over the 50 minutes Holder allowed the Christmas bomber, Farok Abdulmutallab, before he gave him his Miranda rights thereby losing critical intelligence about Abdulmutallab’s al Qaeda connections. When are Americans going to understand there is something very wrong in the White House with the way we proceed with any legal action against Islamic terrorists.
We have a President who almost cannot speak the work terrorist and has never used the words Islamic terrorist. The Attorney General cannot even speak the word terrorist as he demonstrated to his embarrassment in front of a Congressional committee. There still is a volume of information to come out of this disaster. The FBI, the CIA, Homeland Security all have questions to answer about the mishandling of their responsibilities to protect this country. However, this President and his administrations past history of dealing with Islamic terrorist crimes must make Americans start to, at least question, why he takes the paths he takes. It’s about time!!
May 25, 2013
Here we go again! The Attorney General of the United States, Erich Holder, can’t remember anything about anything! He can’t remember reading any memos coming across his desk concerning the Fast & Furious disaster.
He can’t remember or doesn’t bother to read the Arizona immigration law, 1070, before suing the State of Arizona over it. He can’t remember or failed to read the reams of opinions from career prosecutors, refusing to proceed with legal action against the CIA for interrogation procedures, before his failed in that legal dead end.
He didn’t remember or didn’t care about the tide of opposition from his own Democrat party before advising Obama to close Guantanamo, the Democrat controlled Senate voted 90 to 0 against closing Guantanamo. He actually perjured himself over the Fast & Furious outrage then Obama put out an Executive Order shielding Holder from any further Congressional action.
However, in the Associated Press and Fox News scandal it’s going to be very hard for Holder to deploy his standard incompetence defense to get out of this one. He has already claimed he never saw any paperwork about A.P. or Fox News come across his desk. Big problem, last Friday a document dump from his DOJ showed the paperwork in question had his signatures all over them. His first claim is now obviously a lie. Re: the document dump from the above paragraph, again when are these morons going to realize that a document dump on Friday night so that information won’t make the Friday night news, will still be just as destructive to them on Monday morning?
Attorney General Eric Holder signed off on an illegal search warrant that identified Fox News reporter, James Rosen, as a “possible co-conspirator” in violation of the Espionage Act and authorized seizure of his private e-mails, a law enforcement official told NBC news. That act by Eric Holder, is a violation of Rosen’s first amendment rights.
The damaging disclosure of the Attorney General’s role came the same day as Obama said Holder had agreed to review Justice Department guidelines governing investigations that involve journalists. Are you kidding us? Holder is going to investigate himself? Obama, even you are not going to be able to put that one over.
Maybe Obama will put Holder on paid administrative leave, just like key IRS scandal figure, Lois Lerner. Of course Holder is expecting everyone to accept the nonsense that he recused himself from the A.P. investigation without completing the required paperwork for that task. Filling out that paperwork is legally required. But hey guys, he can’t claim he recused himself from going after Fox News eh?
It is going to be very interesting and entertaining for us folks in this country who have not fallen into worshiping the Messiah and his acolytes.
Eric Holder is a very dangerous man in a position of great power. As long as he is the Attorney General of the United States of America, he will use his position and power to do harm to the traditional values of this country.
“If the time should ever come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in our government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin”.
Samuel Adams – October 1780
Because if the bilthy fastards lose this one, they will lose the next one and the next one and the ...
snip-”What the Little Sisters, and similar organizations, found most objectionable about Form 700 is that it is a legally necessary documents before any plan operator may go ahead and provide the free contraceptive services. The bottom line on the form declares that it is “an instrument under which the plan is operated.
Thus, the Little Sisters’ argument goes, the head of a religious organization filling out and signing that document is a part of the overall “scheme” to deliver those services to their female employees, and is signing an explicit legal authorization for them, which the ACA then mandates. The mere act of preparing and signing is, they contend, what violates their faith.”
(Don’t know how reliable scotusblog is—sponsored by Bloomberg Law—but, worth a look.)
If a religious organization wants an exemption from the new law’s “contraceptive mandate,” because the services required are against its faith, that organization must fill out the form and file it with the insurance company or other entity that runs its employee health insurance plan. Then, the plan operator arranges for those services, free of charge, to the organization’s female workers. (The government provides an inducement in the form of a subsidy.)So, filling out the form clears the way for the feds to offer a subsidy to the plan provider to provide the contraceptive care. By not filling the form, they prevent contraceptive care from being offered, directly or indirectly.
Of course, there is nothing stopping a covered employee from just buying what she needs herself, using her own cash.
"Wonder when the Pope will chime in to tell the Sisters to give it up."
To answer your question: Never.
Thanks for the link. Powerful.
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