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Is global warming behind polar vortex?
The Hill ^ | January 6, 2014

Posted on 01/07/2014 2:23:32 AM PST by SMGFan

Global warming may be contributing to the "polar vortex" causing frigid temperatures across most of the nation on Monday, according to some climate change researchers.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; polarvortex; weather; winter
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To: SMGFan

Did you know you can unplug your fridge, burn logs in it, and the meat will freeze quickly? It’s a Global Warming FACT!


41 posted on 01/07/2014 5:49:43 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Everything is the result of global warming.

Well, it's progress. It used to be that everything was the result of George W. Bush.

42 posted on 01/07/2014 5:50:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Libloather
How do they purpose to get rid of it? Global cooling? Frickin’ jackwagons..

There is simply no way. Were the Pleistocene-era Wisconsin glaciation to re-occur, they would still be blaming global warming.

43 posted on 01/07/2014 5:51:30 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: SMGFan

44 posted on 01/07/2014 5:59:37 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: abclily

You were good up until number 5.

The entire issue here is thermodynamics. You can construct and experiment that accurately mirrors the solar system along the lines of steps 1-4. Get a box, cut a small hole at the top and shove an incandescent bulb through it. Put eight rocks at varying distances from the bulb. Measure the temps on the rocks.

All of the energy within each of the rocks that is stored can only be transferred, and as time increases, the energy remaining in those rocks approaches zero.

No new energy, save for the Sun’s energy, is being added to any of the rocks.

As for using relative size to determine how much damage you can do to a system, consider the size of a virus and how much damage it can do to a human.


45 posted on 01/07/2014 6:00:07 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: abclily
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

About the size of Micky Rooney.

46 posted on 01/07/2014 6:02:07 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SMGFan
Actually, behind the behind is the Carbon Exchange, still not mandated, with trillions of dollars worth of carbon credits just laying around not worth a Continental.

But if the American people can be suckered into believing that somehow us not burning carbon based fuels will make the planet a more wonderful place (despite costing extra, not to mention everyone else using them), suddenly, a few people stand to make a huge (trillions of dollars huge) amount of money.

Our only hope is to continue to debase the currency fast enough the carbon credit holders give up and let us burn the worthless FRNs to keep warm.

47 posted on 01/07/2014 6:12:55 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Carbon Exchange? Kind of like Al Gore’s Bitcoin.


48 posted on 01/07/2014 6:20:50 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
>>>Been watching and reading news for years....decades, even. Suddenly the lefties want to come up with a new phrase to explain their epic fail. Polar vortex my ass.

The lefties have just discovered the Polar Vortex...it ain't new. The polar vortex has been around since the beginning of time. Ignorance is the only reason we are having this discussion. The left needs a new excuse so they discovered what has always been there and are using it as the latest excuse. Many on the right (like Rush) had never heard of it either and now think its some made up term...and the American people (unless they pay close attention to a real forecaster (not news babe doing weather)) has also never heard of is...which allows for easy duping.

The term "polar vortex" has been a meteorological term LONG before I started forecasting...and that was almost 27 years ago. It's used just like the term "jet stream" or high pressure is. It's a commonly heard term in forecast discussion during the winter. The trick in medium-long range forecasting (in winter) has ALWAYS been trying to figure out how far south the polar vortex would get dislodged. Every time (and let me repeat that with EMPHASIS)....EVERY TIME it has EVER gotten VERY COLD in the US...it has been because of the polar vortex moving south and buckling the jet stream...which pulls the arctic/siberian air southward. And MOST times it is accompanied by a warm up in Alaska and western Canada...because to move the polar vortex south...you need a big ridge of high pressure to form to its west (normally).

As a meteorologist...I'm getting a big kick out of this polar vortex talk...that some people think its a made up phrase...and others think its a man made devil.

49 posted on 01/07/2014 6:22:27 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: SMGFan

Cant the government do something? /sarc


50 posted on 01/07/2014 6:23:34 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: RinaseaofDs
consider the size of a virus and how much damage it can do to a human

You were very good until that point. - false analogy. Self replicating snips of rna/dna have no relationship to thermodynamics...

51 posted on 01/07/2014 6:26:14 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: SMGFan
Is global warming behind polar vortex?

My son and I were predicting last night that the environuts would be claiming this today. People who have their entire religious lives invested in global warming have to make up something, or they're left with nothing. They simply cannot stand the thought that some things are just outside the control of humans.

Damn, it's cold here in Philadelphia!

52 posted on 01/07/2014 6:29:38 AM PST by old and tired
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To: Lazamataz

Bush caused global warming. So everything is still his fault.


53 posted on 01/07/2014 6:41:11 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: sitetest
It’s 4.6 degrees F in beautiful, downtown Davidsonville, MD. While that is unusually cold for these climes, it’s hardly unheard of. A quick search reveals that the record low in this little hamlet in Maryland is -8 degrees F, set in 1984.

Just how cold did it get in December 1983?

It was so cold around Christmastime in 1983 that Reagan National remained below freezing for 86 consecutive hours between December 23-27. The airport set record lows of 5 and 3 on Christmas Eve and Christmas, respectively. Dulles’ lows hovered around zero on the 24th (1), 25th (-2) and 26th (-1). As a whole, December 1983 was nearly four degrees below average (with a mean temperature of 36F).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2013/12/06/current-pattern-draws-comparisons-to-that-from-historically-cold-December-1983/

I remember how cold it was the Christmas of ’83. I was a newlywed and had the entire family including my Norwegian born grandmother over for Christmas dinner. We were renting a nice looking townhouse that had a fireplace but unfortunately, very shoddy construction and poor insulation and a heat pump that was a piece of crapola, the windows leaked air like a sieve. We kept throwing wood in the fireplace to keep the downstairs warm but even my Norwegian grandmother was complaining about the cold. Then while I was cleaning up dinner, the sewer pipes froze and backed up into the house. What a mess that was.

I also remember a very bad cold snap in January of 1994. The highs were at or near zero for several consecutive days and I remember the rolling power blackouts and the tractor-trailers stranded and pulled over all across the Baltimore Beltway because their diesel fuel lines had frozen up. It finally warmed up a bit but then we were treated to nearly weekly ice storms for the next month and half. The ice on my street was nearly a foot thick by the end.

54 posted on 01/07/2014 6:42:32 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: NELSON111

In Illinois we used to call that an Alberta Clipper!


55 posted on 01/07/2014 7:08:24 AM PST by Sweating_Bullets (You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.)
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To: Sweating_Bullets
>>>In Illinois we used to call that an Alberta Clipper!

The Alberta Clipper and the polar vortex are two totally separate weather patterns. The clipper is more of a meso-scale feature...which means its over an area less than 1000km wide....and its fast moving. The polar vortex is a synoptic scale pattern....which means it is on the continental scale...and it can sit and spin for days.

56 posted on 01/07/2014 7:15:12 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: Sweating_Bullets

Went skiing near Calgary a while back. Arrived at -40 deg.
When it got to -20F. they opened the lifts.


57 posted on 01/07/2014 7:15:12 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Conspiracy Guy

PHEW!

(That was close!)


58 posted on 01/07/2014 7:17:30 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: SMGFan

This is nothing new. Canadians and Siberians have experienced it for years.

They don’t call it polar vortex. They call it ‘a pretty bad winter.”


59 posted on 01/07/2014 7:26:48 AM PST by wildbill
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To: BamaDi

That is very true!


60 posted on 01/07/2014 7:28:26 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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