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Record cold doesn't disprove global warming
CNN ^ | Jan 7, 2014 | Adam Sobel

Posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:12 PM PST by Innovative

On average, the high temperatures are getting higher, and the lows are getting higher too. Global warming is as real and serious as ever, it's just exceedingly gradual compared with the dramatic temperature swings that are still part of living in midlatitudes in winter.

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; glowbullwarming; hoax; recordcold
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I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Record cold, global warming research ship stuck in ice in Antarctica, but the global warming promoters are still trying to persuade us their delusion is real...

1 posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:12 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

global warming ping


2 posted on 01/07/2014 8:55:35 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Record heat would be a little more convincing.


3 posted on 01/07/2014 8:58:54 PM PST by FreeperCell
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To: Innovative

Just as record rains don’t disprove drought ....


4 posted on 01/07/2014 9:00:01 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Innovative

BULL SH**!!!


5 posted on 01/07/2014 9:01:12 PM PST by deweyfrank
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To: Innovative

The right wing skeptics are so filled with racism and warmongering there’s no room for science, even if their religious belief systems allowed for it. The plain fact they can’t understand that it’s cooling because it’s warming is proof, ultimately, of their insanity.


6 posted on 01/07/2014 9:02:27 PM PST by golux
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To: Innovative

Oh I dunno

Michelle is not rushing back to DC


7 posted on 01/07/2014 9:03:27 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Innovative

Warm globally, cool locally!


8 posted on 01/07/2014 9:03:28 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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I’m tired of these ignorant, butt-thumping Global Cooling Deniers!!!


9 posted on 01/07/2014 9:04:18 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Lizavetta

Correct. For example, let’s assume the average earth temperature today is a fraction of a degree C warmer than it was say in 1800 (and I think most experts would agree this is the case, regardless of their opinion about “warming”), the real question is “why”? If, as I believe is the case, the cause is 80+% due to natural factors and <20% due to human activity, I suppose you could say that proves “global warming is real”, even thought one year will be colder than another.

But the real bottom line, to quote our infamous former SecState, is “what difference does it make”? Of course climate changes, and of course that means on a long-term basis there is global warming and there is also global cooling. What matter is that the activities of mankind have virtually nothing to do with it.


10 posted on 01/07/2014 9:04:45 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Innovative

Cultists will follow their worship no matter how unbelievable.

Pray America is Freezing Up


11 posted on 01/07/2014 9:05:25 PM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Innovative
"Record cold doesn't disprove global warming"

It sure as HELL DOES!

12 posted on 01/07/2014 9:09:06 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Innovative

Is there any legal recourse when a news outlet willfully lies about natural phenomenon where there is no clearly defined plaintiff?


13 posted on 01/07/2014 9:09:28 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Well it disses God. That’s going to spell trouble in the long run.


14 posted on 01/07/2014 9:10:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: golux

Whut?


15 posted on 01/07/2014 9:10:48 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: golux

Whut?


16 posted on 01/07/2014 9:10:49 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Innovative

What is the global temperature today?

What was it yesterday


17 posted on 01/07/2014 9:11:14 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Innovative

So the writer admits the warming is “exceedingly gradual”, but still advocates a “the sky is falling” response?


18 posted on 01/07/2014 9:11:27 PM PST by Nevadan
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To: Innovative
And since it's comparatively exceedingly gradual, do we really need the carbon taxes and crap and trade? Maybe the free market should work here instead?

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19 posted on 01/07/2014 9:13:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Innovative

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

Record cold, global warming research ship stuck in ice in Antarctica, but the global warming promoters are still trying to persuade us their delusion is real...

CORRECTION CORRECTION!!!!

Record cold, global warming research ship stuck in ice in Antarctica (it is currently SUMMER in Antarctica) , but the global warming promoters are still trying to persuade us their delusion is real...

I cannot stress this enough:

It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!
It is currently SUMMER in Antarctica!


20 posted on 01/07/2014 9:16:05 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Innovative
My daughter just brought me a hot fresh baked chocolate chip cookie and a half of glass of milk. Food of the Gods.

Not a hijack attempt, interesting article, but you guys are missing an awesome cookie.

21 posted on 01/07/2014 9:16:11 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Innovative

Of course not - nothing disproves global warming in the vapid minds of these idiots.


22 posted on 01/07/2014 9:16:39 PM PST by aquila48
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To: 11B40; A Balrog of Morgoth; A message; ACelt; Aeronaut; AFPhys; AlexW; alrea; America_Right; ...

Global Warming PING!


23 posted on 01/07/2014 9:17:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Doomonyou

Primary season. They come crawling out of all the woodworks. Predictable as cicada hatchings.


24 posted on 01/07/2014 9:18:24 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Innovative
Dear CNN:

If record cold doesn't disprove global warming, why have you used virtually every single record high recorded anywhere in the past 10 years to prove it's real?

25 posted on 01/07/2014 9:20:42 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: bigbob

The earth warmed up from the last ice age with 0% human input. I suspect it will cool down again at some point with 0% human input involved in it.


26 posted on 01/07/2014 9:21:47 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: bigbob

If an ice age started today and in 20 years we saw massive glacier growth, shorter summers, etc. the Warmunistas would still insist that it is caused by AGW.


27 posted on 01/07/2014 9:23:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: GraceG

Best Post.


28 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:15 PM PST by golux
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To: Innovative
Avoid confusion and embarrassment.

Just remember these two rules about Global Warming:

1 - Record setting cold, snow or ice do not disprove the existence of Global Warming. They are just anecdotal evidence of a temporary condition or weather phenomena and can be disregarded.

2 - Record setting warm temperatures, drought, rain, storms, melting ice, or other unusual and similar conditions are undeniable empirical evidence that man caused Global Warming is destroying the planet.

29 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:18 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Innovative

By the same token, record highs, and variations even lasting years to decades, also do not prove global warming. There has always been variability in the Earth’s climate. Further, climate change is not the same as anthropomorphic climate change.


30 posted on 01/07/2014 9:24:23 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: GraceG


31 posted on 01/07/2014 9:26:37 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: Innovative

When nothing can disprove a theory - the theory stops being a theory and becomes a religion.


32 posted on 01/07/2014 9:30:29 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Innovative

Someone is really trying to sell a massive tax scam to the world via of global non warming.


33 posted on 01/07/2014 9:31:36 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Innovative

Record cold in January or record heat in August is not dispositive of climate change. Over the last 130 years the average (5 year running average) temperature has gone up about 1 C. There is no evidence or model that can explain this satisfactorily or provide any proof that the act of mankind is the agent.


34 posted on 01/07/2014 9:31:49 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Innovative
Record cold doesn't disprove global warming

CNN?
Really?

Give me a break!

35 posted on 01/07/2014 9:32:39 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Innovative

These brain dead clowns are always wanting to have it both ways. Yo Adam! It’s a hoax and a scam bubba! You’re going to have to learn to deal with that fact.


36 posted on 01/07/2014 9:36:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you like your ObamaCare, you can keep your ObamaCare. I'll pass. PERIOD!)
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To: Innovative
Record cold, global warming research ship stuck in ice in Antarctica, but the global warming promoters are still trying to persuade us their delusion is [computer climate models] are more accurate than reality...
37 posted on 01/07/2014 9:39:00 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Innovative

“Record cold doesn’t disprove global warming”

True enough.
It doesn’t prove it either.

Weather events don’t prove or disprove anything.


38 posted on 01/07/2014 9:40:02 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Innovative

It’s damn cold but it isn’t record cold. Don’t let them manage the narrative that way.


39 posted on 01/07/2014 9:40:17 PM PST by RC one
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To: Innovative
Record cold doesn't disprove global warming

Phew! That was close! I thought for a brief second that we HADN'T always been at war with EurAsia.

40 posted on 01/07/2014 9:40:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: txhurl

I haven’t had a good tomato crop in four years because we haven’t had any real good hot spells.


41 posted on 01/07/2014 9:41:22 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Innovative

Lunatics.


42 posted on 01/07/2014 9:42:38 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office)
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To: golux
The plain fact they can’t understand that it’s cooling because it’s warming is proof, ultimately, of their insanity.

Real science has proven beyond question, repeatedly, that no truly insane person is aware of his insanity. Even condescending ones.

43 posted on 01/07/2014 9:43:52 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Innovative

The only thing that will disprove global warming is the drying up of grant money.

We have cooling now - if it continues and I have heard that the current sun cycle will last 100 years - we will pray for GW.

And we can’t do anything about either one.


44 posted on 01/07/2014 9:45:54 PM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: golux

I had fun trolling some idiot libs today, told them that "Of course the ice breaker got stuck near Antarctica, it is winter and in winter the ice freezes, the ice caps almost melt in summer and even more since global warming"

The morons believed me and when i confronted them with the fact I was trolling(lying) to them and that is was summer in Antarctica they didn't believe me and thought I was lying about lying to them...

Bunch of clueless fools the GORE-BULL warming crowd.

They probably belive this graphic if I showed it to them.


45 posted on 01/07/2014 9:45:55 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Lazamataz

Say, man! I have been irritated by this cold for, well, selfish reasons, but am wondering if ‘polar vortices’ have tropical vortices (hurricanes) as a positive feedback phenomena.

Like, within a year of the polar vortex.


46 posted on 01/07/2014 9:48:06 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Iron Munro
They call us the "Flat earthers" and they can't realize it is freeking summer in Antarctica...

Do they not get the idea that earth has an axial tilt and solar output affects our weather....

Next they will tell us we live on a cube shaped world and up is down and right is left and up is down...


47 posted on 01/07/2014 9:49:41 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Let's Roll

Australia is starting to wake up, they elected a sensible Prime Minister.

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Maurice Newman: Global warming a ‘delusion’

“In an opinion piece in The Australian newspaper, Maurice Newman, the Prime Minister’s pick as head of his Business Advisory Council, claimed high energy costs caused by the carbon tax and the renewable energy target, introduced by the Howard government, had eroded Australia’s competitiveness. Under Labor and the Greens, Australia had been taken ‘’hostage’’ by ‘’climate change madness’’, Mr Newman wrote.”

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/maurice-newman-global-warming-a-delusion-20131231-304nv.html


48 posted on 01/07/2014 9:53:13 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
Here's a Terra/MODIS view from 01/04/2014 23:10 UTC showing the Bering Sea under broken cloud cover. At top center you can see a snow covered St. Matthew's Island in ice free seas, and you can see new ice forming to the north in the form of snaky tendrils.

Circa 2008 this new ice was forming around St. Matthew's Island around Christmas. So all I'm saying is, don't go off half cocked!

49 posted on 01/07/2014 9:53:40 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: publius911

Your dogmatic right-wing assertion only proves that you need to be disarmed, silenced, and deprived of an automobile in the name of Social Justice.


50 posted on 01/07/2014 9:54:32 PM PST by golux
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