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Where the heck are these rear ends going to deploy this vehicle in Fort Pierce? This is beyond the pale and as a local and a former public defenders investigator all I can say is that I am finally getting very jittery about Police behavior. I can not believe the Mayor authorized this purchase. I am certain that our PD no longer needs its cruisers.
1 posted on 01/07/2014 9:12:17 PM PST by managusta
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Hahaha, I can see one of those pulling me over for having, say a rear brake light out.
I would be SPEECHLESS, no easy task.

Wow!

31 posted on 01/07/2014 9:59:34 PM PST by cloudmountain (.)
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30 ton. I could stop it with a little clever planning and a few hundred gallons of water. What do you think the local service station would charge to tow that beast out?


33 posted on 01/07/2014 9:59:56 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Police in Fort Pierce are now armed with a U.S. military surplus battle wagon: a six wheel, 30-ton armored vehicle worth $700,000 — that the agency got for $2,000.

Yeesh. I find that "discount" almost as disturbing as the perceived "need" of the PD of a medium-sized town to have one of these things in the first place. Don't we have some overseas ally we could sell it to for at least a couple hundred grand?

35 posted on 01/07/2014 10:01:01 PM PST by DemforBush (Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream?)
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Got some morning show tapes from a friend in south Florida. One of them includes a fella talking about a vicious animal attack in his home. “I got a coon in my living room!”—the Fort Pierce police response was “Is he armed?”

Granted, those tapes were from the 90’s, but giving those yahoos that kind of vehicle leaves me speechless. Thank goodness I’m a few hours north.


37 posted on 01/07/2014 10:03:55 PM PST by Southern Magnolia
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On the upside, the article says these departments are getting the vehicles for $2,000, so I bet a whole lot of them would never get the vehicles if they had to actually pay for them. How long do you think these things will last in all these podunk police departments, without a budget for parts and maintenance of $700,000 military vehicles?


38 posted on 01/07/2014 10:03:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces

Altogether, there are over 2 million LEOs in the United States today. The author argues that they have effectively become a domestic standing army. The book contains an excellent history of domestic policing and is scrupulously documented.

39 posted on 01/07/2014 10:05:10 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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If I saw that thing parked on the street here in my town, I would have zero hesitation to walk over to it whip out my Johnson, and piss on the front tire... SWAT team or not, that vehicle is ridiculous.


44 posted on 01/07/2014 10:16:02 PM PST by Rodamala (When in doubt, please note there is an implied </sarc> tag at the end of all posts.)
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As with every other one of these acquisitions, I don’t think this is nearly as alarming as most do, for the following reasons:

One, these vehicles are incredibly expensive to maintain. They’re heavy, and impose a tremendous strain on their entire drivetrain and suspension. The tires alone cost several thousand dollars, and don’t last all that long. Additionally, much of the drivetrain is purpose-built, not COTS, so when something breaks, they’re going to have to get spares from a specific supplier, likely at cost, which is going to take a big bite out of the budget. This alone is likely to redline that thing.

Two, driving an MRAP requires specialized training on a simulator. They roll over *very easily* and are extremely top-heavy. An uneven road that causes oscillation, a corner taken too fast, or a large bump taken the wrong way, is enough to put it on its side. This isn’t a tank; it’s an armored bus intended to bring troops to the fight but not to participate.

Three, they’re HEAVY. As tough as it looks, it SUCKS as an offroad vehicle, and can get stuck easily (particularly in marshy Florida), either by becoming bogged down, or by putting too much strain on the axles/transmission and breaking something. Worse, once it’s stuck, you’re not going to get it out with any ordinary tow truck.

All these combined makes for a very short career as a law enforcement vehicle.


46 posted on 01/07/2014 10:19:55 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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I hope they realize that, logistically speaking, there are some bridges and roads that are not designed to withstand a 30 ton vehicle, especially in residential areas. Trash pick up trucks struggle with this sometimes.


49 posted on 01/07/2014 10:27:27 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits use of military assets for domestic law enforcement activities. Not that anyone cares about that sort of thing any more. Especially not a lot of officers who swear oaths to uphold the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.


51 posted on 01/07/2014 10:31:14 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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This is Breaking News?


52 posted on 01/07/2014 10:33:03 PM PST by QT3.14 (Governments job is not to redistribute our things - it is to protect our liberties)
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How many people live in Fort Pierce?


56 posted on 01/07/2014 10:44:14 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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“If you see my SWAT team roll up in this, it’s over, so just give up,” said Police Chief Sam Baldwin.

That kind of reminds of statements like "this ship is unsinkable!"

59 posted on 01/07/2014 10:57:50 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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“If you see my SWAT team roll up in this, it’s over, so just give up,”

Famous last words.


60 posted on 01/07/2014 10:58:58 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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From the original Die Hard: “Send in the Car. Send in the CAHRRR!”


61 posted on 01/07/2014 11:11:28 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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Remind me not to retire to Fort Pierce. I want to live through my retirement, not have the Police Farce end it.


65 posted on 01/08/2014 12:10:53 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Remember this?

http://www.cnsnews.com/node/45206


67 posted on 01/08/2014 12:40:38 AM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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Where the heck are these rear ends going to deploy this vehicle in Fort Pierce


That was not part of the decision making process. It was FREE, well almost.


69 posted on 01/08/2014 12:52:58 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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Fort Pierce is not every going to turn down a chance for Federal largess. Look at the travesty of those barriers in the lagoon down by the marina.

The police department will find an excuse to use the vehicle. Not sure if people still refer to certain parts of Fort Pierce as “Little Vietnam” but even back when they did you never heard of swat team rolling in to keep order.


72 posted on 01/08/2014 1:50:04 AM PST by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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Fort Pierce is a craphole, majority black with a large Haitian and Latin American community.
Drugs are rampant and killings are nothing unusual.
Do they need a vehicle like this? Hell no.


73 posted on 01/08/2014 2:02:27 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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