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Why Socialism Is on the Rise
Frontpage ^ | 1/8/2014 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 01/08/2014 2:43:48 AM PST by markomalley

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1 posted on 01/08/2014 2:43:48 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Capitalism failed to make a case for itself

It is hard to make a case for it when you have a number approaching 1/3 of this country's population NOT working and on some sort of government entitlement or other.

Democrats have been working for over half a century to economically shackle as many people in this country to entitlements so they could control them. If you get over half everywhere, you have the entire country in your hands.

This ENTIRE government now is concentrated on a ONE WAY equalization plan that spans the gamut of social, judicial, and financial realms from the HAVES to the HAVE NOTS.

2 posted on 01/08/2014 2:49:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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>> Socialism states that you owe me something simply because I exist.

Yup.


3 posted on 01/08/2014 2:49:37 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gaffer

But safe to say, the other half that is NOT shackled will more and more likely end up getting fed-up to the point of backlashing. It is coming.


4 posted on 01/08/2014 2:52:06 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Oh yes. When the fruits of your labor are taken from you, there really isn’t much point to ‘laboring’ anymore, is there?


5 posted on 01/08/2014 2:55:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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Even when capitalism does make a case for itself with an era of expanding affluence, the socialists will angrily lecture that not EVERYONE is capable of success. This triggers guilt even in some of the successful. How many times have you heard or said, “We’ve been fortunate” from those who worked themselves extremely hard to get to whatever level they have achieved? Besides guilting the successful, the *everyone not capable* meme allows those who haven’t achieved to feel less like failures.

So, it is now fairly easy to extract guilt payments from the successful and allow the less successful to feel entitled. Next, comes the institutionalization of both these states. Now, the less successful feel grateful to the institution for their *share* of someone’s labor, encouraging the State to take even more in their name. The capitalist successes just hope that each bite will be the last. No one seems to notice that the most fortunate of all are the ones doing the taking and the sharing. They seem to always get their cut, first.

Capitalism hasn’t just failed to make its own case, it has been so demonized that it can’t even be acknowledged in a positive manner. An ever-larger distributive class now depends on the redistribution for their own living. The recipients depend on that class. They will never be eliminated.


6 posted on 01/08/2014 3:07:32 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: markomalley
But, said Yergin and Stanislaw, “a system that takes the pursuit of self-interest and profit as its guiding light does not necessarily satisfy the yearning in the human soul for belief and some higher meaning beyond materialism.”

At the founding of the land that would become the U.S., the people held freedom of religion so dear that they actually believed in and practiced religion, holding it sacred and keeping it above the quotidian realm of government. In many of the colonies, there was an official religion of the commonwealth, and some colonial governors compelled church attendance. This did not violate the First Amendment, because the First Amendment applied to the U.S. Congress, not the states. The states were a federation, not a centralized dictatorship.


In other words, [Yergin and Stanislaw] wrote, while Spanish communists would die with the word “Stalin” on their lips, “few people would die with the words ‘free markets’ on their lips.”

Ridiculous. The word so very many have died for is "freedom." Obviously, freedom includes trade.

7 posted on 01/08/2014 3:17:25 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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To: Biggirl
I hope so.

They dis-armed me (I MAY tell that story sometime), and I feel neutered because any "revolutionary" talk is just that ... talk.

It pisses me off and I can't do a thing about it ... except maybe reload the guy I share a foxhole with.

8 posted on 01/08/2014 3:17:33 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: reformedliberal

Essentially, it’s the “life’s lottery” syndrome excuse for sloth and laziness of the users in this world.

You have wealth because you’re lucky, and even if you did work some for it, you were able to work for it because of ‘white privilege’ or some other speciously feeble excuse.

Couple this with the low expectations of socialism for its adherents and you have an experiment that might work for a generation or two. Work, that is, until the wealth is gone and pissed away, and there isn’t anyone making toilet paper any more, etc.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 3:20:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: markomalley

The have-not society will forever look for ways to exploit those that have. This is the root of Socialist/Communist/Marxist-Leninist ideology. It is a natural problem for which there is no solution.


10 posted on 01/08/2014 3:22:14 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Biggirl; All

When the CEO of Worldwide Financial lowered his 2007 salary of around $140 million to around $100 million in 2008, and when Lehman Brothers CEO in the same period raised his salary from around $40 million to over $70 million, I don’t think too many people were sobbing for those poor rich people when their businesses went under.


11 posted on 01/08/2014 3:22:51 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: markomalley
Capitalism can try to make a case for itself, but if a very sizable percentage of the population is not listening, then what's the point? The fact is: we have a very large percentage of the population who look fondly on the idea of wealth being confiscated from the producers i.e. taxpayers and given to them. They like being thieves.

Pleading with the most ignorant segment of the population to understand free-market capitalism and standing on their own two legs is like pleading with a carjacker, as he is pointing his gun at your head, that theft is wrong.

12 posted on 01/08/2014 3:31:37 AM PST by driftless2
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To: markomalley

Socialism always results in state sponsored mass murder because to survive enemies must created and destroyed.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 3:33:01 AM PST by monocle
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To: reformedliberal
the most fortunate of all are the ones doing the taking and the sharing. They seem to always get their cut, first.

That cut runs about 50%. It's amazing how little complaint there is about the mafia-level take.

14 posted on 01/08/2014 3:36:16 AM PST by Reeses
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It’s because socialism is simple and earnest whereas capitalism is complex and shot through with irony. It’s easy to wrap moral language around socialsim but harder to do with capitalism.


15 posted on 01/08/2014 3:42:50 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: gleeaikin
salary from around $40 million to over $70 million

Only sports/movie/TV/singer stars get salaries like that. Executives mostly make capital gains off stock options.

16 posted on 01/08/2014 3:48:59 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Gene Eric
Socialism states that you owe me something simply because I exist.

This can be handled via capitalism. Buy more ammo.

17 posted on 01/08/2014 3:53:48 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Gaffer

“It is hard to make a case for it when you have a number approaching 1/3 of this country’s population NOT working and on some sort of government entitlement or other.”

Yeah, agree. It’s my observation that people rarely have the foresight or moral courage to avoid disasters in advance. As with Greece, we seem to find it necessary to be in the throes of the downward spiral of the toilet before we accept reality. And, so we will have to experience this as well before we begin the climb back out of the sewer. And so it goes......


18 posted on 01/08/2014 3:58:30 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: monocle

Socialism also creates the reality of revolt because when push comes to sholve.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 4:00:17 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: markomalley

I think corporate cronyism is to blame. Seriously, the liberals think giving 80 billion dollars a month to the stock market and bankers is ok. I don’t get it. I also don’t get why republicans and libertarians are not plastering this on every superbowl ad slot. 80 billion dollars... to banks and wall street, while everyone else is being extorted by taxation to give it to them. Think of all the companies in bed with the government.. Verizon, AT&T, GE, IBM, the list is endless.


20 posted on 01/08/2014 4:00:40 AM PST by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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