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A Chaos-Driven Path to Single Payer? Strong indications have emerged that this may be the plan.
Pajamas Media ^ | 01/08/2014 | Tom Blumer

Posted on 01/08/2014 7:41:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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Those who have resisted the idea that the HealthCare.gov web site and Obamacare in general may have been intentionally designed to create confusion and chaos [1] as a means for imposing a single-payer healthcare system on a currently unwilling populace are going to have a tough time explaining away yet another recently discovered “quirk.”

To be clear, I’m not claiming, as some have inferred from previous columns, that there is a widely orchestrated chaos-creation plan, or that any attempt to capitalize on the current bedlam to impose single-payer is destined to succeed. What I am saying is that the evidence supporting the idea that certain of Obamacare’s key players are determined to try continues to mount.

The latest “nobody’s this stupid and incompetent [2]” revelation is that Obamacare’s enrollment system [3] “lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.”

Press reports indicate that it’s literally impossible to add a new child to an existing health plan once a person or household has enrolled. That’s not all. HealthCare.gov also cannot handle “marriage and divorce, a death in the family, a new job or a change in income, (or) even moving to a different community.”

No one should try to verify the existence of these problems on their own. That’s because the web site is such a security nightmare that outside IT experts have publicly stated that it’s too dangerous [4] for a user concerned about the privacy of their personal data (i.e., anyone with a brain) to use. As if that’s not enough, in late September [5], the chief information security officer for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services “told congressional interviewers that she explicitly recommended denial of the website’s Authority to Operate.” She “was overruled by her superiors.”

As red flags for true intentions go, Obamacare’s inability to accommodate common life changes is an even stronger indicator than the failures previously identified.

As to security, I suppose it’s possible for designers to be so ignorant that they believe it’s something they can layer in later instead of following currently accepted protocols which call for baking it in [6] from the outset. As to the lack of progress [7] in building a system to process billions of dollars in subsidy payments to insurers, it’s theoretically but barely conceivable that the administration is telling the truth when it insists, in essence, that “we just haven’t been able to get to that.”

But HealthCare.gov’s life changes bust takes things to a whole new level. Has anyone, anywhere, ever built an interactive database which is unable to interact, i.e., to handle fundamental changes in key information once it has been entered? Who would even think of doing this? It’s overwhelmingly likely that a programming team would have to deliberately decide to exclude the ability to carry out such basic functions during the initial design process.
There is already a precedent showing that Obama’s people are not averse to removing key features from a system’s normal design. In 2008, his presidential campaign deliberately chose to [8] “manually disable the safeguards … in place to verify a person’s address and zip code with the cardholder’s bank.” This enabled unidentifed and unidentifiable small-dollar contributions from all over the world to pour into the campaign, likely to the tune of millions of dollars. From all appearances, as the press slept, the 2012 campaign did the same thing [9].

As the mountain of evidence supporting deliberately induced chaos piles up, the obvious question is: What’s their end game? I wish I knew, but what follows seems plausible.

Readers who follow the British press may have caught [10] the news that patients have been turned away from emergency rooms in Northern Virginia, while others who arrived for treatment of possibly serious medical conditions chose to walk away when presented with a requirement to pay or promise to pay several thousand dollars out of pocket because of uncertainties about the status of their coverage. (Unfortunately most of the U.S. establishment press appears to be so intimidated by this administration that it won’t dare relay such important developments.)

It’s reasonable to believe that situations such as these are occurring throughout the nation. The only question is their frequency.

It won’t be long before a few patients who have tried and failed to get treatment die or suffer serious, debilitating complications. Who will get blamed when this happens?

In cases where the unresponsive government is at fault — which I believe will be most of them — bureaucrats will bury or destroy the damning details and count on their reliable press apparatchiks and captive hospitals, other medical providers, and insurance companies to look the other way.

I suspect that the administration is lying in wait for high-visibility opportunities to pounce on any providers who fail to provide care to duly enrolled patients, and to pillory insurers who erroneously refuse to pay for customers’ life-saving treatments. Particularly tragic circumstances would give the single-payer crowd openings to say, “See? They can’t be trusted. Keeping the private sector involved was a mistake. The government has to control healthcare, or it won’t work.”

A large portion of a populace conditioned by a half-century or more of “business is evil, government is good” in the education system might buy it.


Article printed from PJ Media: http://pjmedia.com

URL to article: http://pjmedia.com/blog/single-payer-chaos/

URLs in this post:

[1] to create confusion and chaos: http://pjmedia.com/blog/obamacare-chaos-strategy/

[2] nobody’s this stupid and incompetent: http://pjmedia.com/blog/nobodys-this-stupid-and-incompetent/

[3] Obamacare’s enrollment system: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/01/03/ap-healthcaregov-cant-handle-any-common-life-changes-running-fairly-smoo

[4] it’s too dangerous: http://freebeacon.com/expert-healthcare-gov-security-risks-even-worse-after-fix/

[5] in late September: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/12/21/ap-nyt-and-politico-ignore-healthcaregov-serious-high-risk-findings-secu

[6] which call for baking it in: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225308

[7] the lack of progress: http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/364342/administration-official-obamacare-payment-systems-still-need-be-built-jim

[8] deliberately chose to: http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-obama-campaigns-credit-card-crack-up/?singlepage=true

[9] did the same thing: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/02/top-obama-bundler-accused-of-fraud-obama-campaign-disables-credit-card-verification-system-again/

[10] may have caught: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2532869/They-no-idea-insurance-active-not-At-Virginia-hospitals-Obamacare-confusion-reigns-frustrated-patients-walk-out.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; obamacarelies; obamalies; rejectsinglepayer; singlepayer

1 posted on 01/08/2014 7:41:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
It's the Cloward-Piven way.
2 posted on 01/08/2014 7:42:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fools who RE-ELECTED “Barry” will pay the consequences.


3 posted on 01/08/2014 7:43:09 AM PST by cloudmountain (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think Barney Frank is on record as saying this was a path to Single Payer.


4 posted on 01/08/2014 7:43:26 AM PST by DBrow
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“...Cloward-Piven...”

Beat me to it!

Make the suffering so intolerable, that the masses will clamor for ANY solution, no matter how bad.


5 posted on 01/08/2014 7:43:57 AM PST by Tigerized (So. Are YOU better off than you were 5 years ago?)
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To: DBrow

little barry bastard boy said it to an audience of like minded socialists, and it is recorded for posterity. But lying and denying is the new reality in the democrips’ American.


6 posted on 01/08/2014 7:44:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is what these liars do. Reminds of of Ann Richards promising that the Texas Lotto would go to Education if approved. They lie to get what they want knowing they will not be held accountable.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 7:45:24 AM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama announced this as his intention way before he was elected. No surprise at all.


8 posted on 01/08/2014 7:46:00 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Well...duh.


9 posted on 01/08/2014 7:46:12 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Happy New Year 2014)
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To: Tigerized

When Medicaid is about the only comprehensive plan you can sign up for and not have to pay a premium, for most people, single payer is already a reality.

And Obamacare seeks to make Medicaid enrollment as easy as possible.


10 posted on 01/08/2014 7:46:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: my small voice

Nuh-uh. You meant the Pennsylvania lottery DOESN’T benefit it’s citizens??


11 posted on 01/08/2014 7:47:10 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: FReepers
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12 posted on 01/08/2014 7:47:25 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Tigerized

“Make the suffering so intolerable, that the masses will clamor for ANY solution, no matter how bad.”

Apparently, the Dems assume that they’ll be the party in control when the situation becomes “intolerable.” I have not doubt that the chaos is intentionally inflicted, but I have to wonder whether or not the public will allow the Dems to apply a solution when their attempt at rolling out Obamacare has come off as nothing short of painfully inept.


13 posted on 01/08/2014 7:47:56 AM PST by MNGal
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To: SeekAndFind

But will people fall for “from bad to worse”?

They’ve done it before.


14 posted on 01/08/2014 7:51:27 AM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: SeekAndFind

To the security/development points: I have worked with more than a handful of IT companies who manufacture appliances and develop programs for IT security and other corporate solutions. More often than not, these companies are run by sales people pushing their products with little development support for the products.

A good example goes like this: a company develops a software solution for the market. Sales people go out to IT shops across the country to sell the product to corporations that supposedly need the solution. More often than not, the products are “turnkey” and supposedly fit right into existing solutions regardless of the level of customization to those environments. The customer buys the appliances or stands up servers to support the software solution, a technical lead comes in to assist with the initial setup, the company gets their gold in the form of support contracts, and they leave the corporation to their devices.

As soon as something goes wrong with the solution or a vulnerability is found in the product, the buyer contacts the solutions provider, and the solutions provider hands off the buyer to a third-party to assist. The original solutions provider is non compos mentis, they’re involved solely in sales. In most cases, the developers of the original product have left to work for the third-party companies OR they’ve started their own to make a pretty penny bilking the originator of the product, for whom they used to work, and/or the buyer of the product if/when the support contract runs out.

The healthcare.gov website was likely setup by some government lackey’s brother’s college buddy’s girlfriend’s maid-of-honor’s husband’s cousin’s roommate. This guy was likely some marketing or business major who knew a bunch of computer science students and paid them to make a pretty webpage. These developers had no practical market knowledge, and once they delivered the final product, they spun off into their own companies to provide “support” for what we’re now expected to use. This is what we in the industry call “stove piping.” They take a core product and spin off a bunch of product solutions to “fix” the core product but wind up creating bigger holes and issues in the end.

The only way to “fix” this is to scrap it and build something from scratch with the properly baked-in fixes, but that’s never going to happen, and we all know it.


15 posted on 01/08/2014 7:52:22 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Other strong indications are that the backlash against this is strong enough to result in civil war and that citizens who are not even politically aware in a general sense will reluctantly kill family members to restore access to doctors if it takes that.


16 posted on 01/08/2014 7:52:47 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DBrow

Has anybody ever, EVER, demonstrated that medical coverage is in any way improved by administration through a single-payer scheme?

“Coverage” is provided, all right. Just as in the instance where a thug has his victim cornered in an alley and tells him, “I gotcha covered, don’t move!”

Couldn’t say that was any kind of improvement for the victim.


17 posted on 01/08/2014 7:53:46 AM PST by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Single Payer IS the goal of this horrendous piece of tripe that is 0bama-don’t-care. Of that there can be no doubt.
That’s the next natural step in the progressive path to socialism.

Resist. At all costs, resist.


18 posted on 01/08/2014 7:55:45 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: MNGal

I’m not sure how you can go from the fedgov screwing it up so badly that it won’t and can’t work to

they should be even more in charge of the whole system.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 7:57:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: alloysteel
Some of them who voted for obama got jobs out of it

Looks like some of Holders people are happy navigators (HPN).....

HPN....OK whitey....lets check your voter registrations ....

HPN....Looks like you need to make a couple of adjustments here....

OK now I see it......your colonoscopy is scheduled for next month.....and the insulin will be mailed as before...

HPN Thinks...."this desk job sure beats stealing cell phones and a once a year gig patrolling voting booths with my billy club."

(He also got the message about hiding the screen image of his laptop)

20 posted on 01/08/2014 7:57:58 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: cloudmountain

Unfortunately, the rest of us have to pay, also.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 8:03:41 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: PubliusMM

((((Resist. At all costs, resist.)))))

I was in converstation with a FReeper the other day who had signed up for FUBOCare. We were on that thread about that Virginia hopsital that was sending away patients from the ER who “might” have FUBOCare, but because the FUBOCare could not be verified; they were denied treatment.

He was optimistic that his provider and his coverage would be fine with no glitches.

It was all I could do to be nice to him and not wish he would get FUBO’d. Was he just naive, or just nutz?

Time will tell.


22 posted on 01/08/2014 8:07:25 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't think the website failure was part of the overall plan. The website was just a typical "give the overpriced, no-bid contract to friends" government action. The fiscal unsustainability was supposed to drive every insurance company out of the medical insurance business over the next few years leaving government control as the "only" solution, with the final debate being between a 100% solution like Canada or a 95% one like the UK where it is still legal to get treatment outside of the NHS.

If they were competent, the website would have been like the witch's gingerbread house in Hansel and Gretel - beautiful, tasty and just tempting you to come in and get shoved into the oven of socialized medicine. But fortunately they (#$%*(#( that up, warning the country that the whole program was bad.

23 posted on 01/08/2014 8:10:22 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: SeekAndFind
It won’t be long before a few patients who have tried and failed to get treatment die or suffer serious, debilitating complications. Who will get blamed when this happens?

If it's never really reported, does a patient really die?

Obituaries will unfortunately never say, "cause of death: Obamacare!"

24 posted on 01/08/2014 8:53:54 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: SeekAndFind

No doubt in my mind that Single Payer will be the next step and it will doubtless be ushered in by Hilary sometime after her instalation in 2016.


25 posted on 01/08/2014 9:09:02 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: SeekAndFind
Particularly tragic circumstances would give the single-payer crowd openings to say, “See? They can’t be trusted. Keeping the private sector involved was a mistake. The government has to control healthcare, or it won’t work.”

Well Duh. The Regressives have been saying this for decades.

26 posted on 01/08/2014 9:17:36 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind
The policy cancellations, raising prices for insurance and inflated deductibles will all be blamed on those dirty greedy insurance companies and the only way to save healthcare is to kill off private health insurance and let the benevolent government run it. Whether this was the intention of Obamcare or not this will be the solution offered when Obamacare collapses in 2014.

However I think at least some of the American people have figured out that all the trouble with Obamcare is that it was based on total lies with the President himself blatantly and knowingly lying to the American people about keeping their policies and doctors. The ignorant and the press will buy the government will fix things story, but I think that most people now understand that Obama is a liar and cannot be trusted about anything related to health insurance.

27 posted on 01/08/2014 10:06:36 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it 1776 yet?


28 posted on 01/08/2014 2:49:07 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

My guess is that a single payer system has been the target all along. With the complete failure and train wreck termed “odumbocare”, its just about time to pull the lever and switch over. Something like a “bait and switch” plan.


29 posted on 01/08/2014 3:25:12 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: SeekAndFind

Rush and Levin have been saying this for years.

It “should” backfire after all the government bungling and money wasting in that people will laugh at the idea of the government in total charge of the system.

But I forget we live with morons.


30 posted on 01/08/2014 3:28:27 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: Tigerized

Should have just gone with Hillary Care in the first place. Timing should be about right for obamacare to go under the bus and Hillary to rescue us.


31 posted on 01/08/2014 3:31:10 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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