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The GOP Needs a Conservative in 2016
Politico Magazine ^ | January 7, 2014 | Keith Koffler

Posted on 01/08/2014 4:52:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: plainshame

What we have here, is a reasonable disagreement.

:D


61 posted on 01/08/2014 6:48:03 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Fair enough.


62 posted on 01/08/2014 6:51:57 PM PST by plainshame
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To: House Atreides

Cruz is the man of the moment for me. Hope he stays strong.


63 posted on 01/08/2014 7:02:00 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Mark17

I have to agree, sadly


64 posted on 01/08/2014 7:02:28 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: plainshame

I meant for all positions, not just the Presidential one. We MIGHT get 3-4 nationally


65 posted on 01/08/2014 7:03:03 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: plainshame
A moderate republican will never win the whitehouse!

Lots of moderate Republicans win the Whitehouse; Eisenhower, Nixon, both George Bushes... Am I forgetting anyone?

66 posted on 01/08/2014 7:08:26 PM PST by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If we're lucky, the GOP will be nice enough to allow us to choose from their extensive stable of rock-solid conservatives:


67 posted on 01/08/2014 7:16:39 PM PST by Washi (Stop Obama's War On Jobs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted or Rand either one okay with me.


68 posted on 01/08/2014 7:18:46 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ...

Politico again — that’s what I think about it; more about the author:

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/unauthorized-independent-koffler-debuts-white-house-dossier_b19511

Koffler gives readers a taste of his alternative writing: “Now that Obama has a record as president, chroniclers of the White House, including me, will soon be offering up the usual dumb analysis about how the president compares to this or that sublime or scumbag predecessor,” he writes. In this launch piece, he compares First Lady Michelle Obama to Nancy Reagan: “Nancy had her ‘Just Say No’ campaign, and of course she got all sorts of crap for it. …And now there’s Michelle Obama with her Just Say No to Sitting Your Fat Asses on the Couch campaign, also known as the Let’s Move initiative. The effort also promotes health eating.”

One of the site’s categories honors VP Biden...


69 posted on 01/08/2014 7:45:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopefully, RINO Christie will get fatally skewered by his latest games.


70 posted on 01/08/2014 7:49:13 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Drew68

LOL!Bush 2 ran as a CONSERVATIVE!He sure enough promoted that for years here in Texas but as soon as he got elected what happened?The jerk became a moderate and lost tons of respect via bending over.


71 posted on 01/08/2014 7:55:21 PM PST by plainshame
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To: plainshame

With leftovers for dinner ! Anybody who thinks the Pubs are going to make much of a change is delusional . Beyond redemption . R vs D = the old WWF lol !


72 posted on 01/08/2014 8:28:36 PM PST by sushiman
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To: plainshame

With leftovers for dinner ! Anybody who thinks the Pubs are going to make much of a change is delusional . Beyond redemption . R vs D = the old WWF lol !


73 posted on 01/08/2014 8:28:54 PM PST by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Dream on if you think Cruz or Palin will get into the mix because the press will chew them up along with the democrats.Be lucky if Americans end up with a Rand Paul in 2016 and not some idiot like christie from New Jersey just like Mitt the twitt from Boston that tanked like the Titanic.Moderate republicans will never win.


74 posted on 01/08/2014 8:39:48 PM PST by plainshame
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To: plainshame
LOL!Bush 2 ran as a CONSERVATIVE!

No, he didn't. He ran as a sober, principled adult --in stark contrast to 8 years of BJ Clinton and his shenanigans, and still managed to lose the popular votes.

75 posted on 01/08/2014 9:12:56 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Don’t try to BS a Texan,he ran as a CONSERVATIVE and always represented himself as that in Texas and America.


76 posted on 01/08/2014 9:38:42 PM PST by plainshame
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To: plainshame
Don’t try to BS a Texan,he ran as a CONSERVATIVE and always represented himself as that in Texas and America.

Oh, yeah, "compassionate conservatism," campaigns in Spanish. Whatever you say. There were plenty of real conservatives less than thrilled when W. got the nomination. Turned out their concerns were well-founded as he certainly didn't govern as a conservative.

My point is that people who say moderates always lose and conservatives always win only need to look at history to see that this is hardly the case. In my 45 years, the only conservative we've had in the White House has been Reagan (as long as one conveniently disregards some of the less-than-conservative laws he signed as President).

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see a conservative win the Presidency. I'm just not delusional enough to believe that the same electorate that sent Obama to the White House twice are going to do a 180 and put someone like Ted Cruz there.

77 posted on 01/08/2014 9:52:19 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

That’s what my post was all about to begin with.


78 posted on 01/08/2014 9:56:57 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Windflier; onyx
Predictions (based on nothing but gut instinct):

1. Cruz will run and will win the nomination.
2. Palin will help immensely, but will neither run, nor be a part of the ticket.
3. Cruz will select a RINO for his running mate (like Reagan did) in order to unify the GOP.
4. He wins in a landslide repudiation of Bammyism, GOP has house and senate; Palin gets back into the political game as a top member of his cabinet.
5. He is immensely successful right from the beginning, particularly with her help as she positions her way into the hearts of Americans when the talent and gifts she possesses shine once again.

A man can dream, yes? Good night.

79 posted on 01/08/2014 9:57:15 PM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: plainshame
That’s what my post was all about to begin with.

No, you said a moderate Republican could never win the White House and I said that plenty of moderate Republicans have won the White House. As far as I can tell, the only conservative Republican who has ever won the White House was Reagan.

Of course, plenty of moderate Republicans have lost the White House. No argument there. I don't know how many conservative Republicans have lost because it seems we rarely ever nominate one. Maybe Goldwater (but by today's standards he'd be a solid Libertarian).

80 posted on 01/08/2014 10:09:51 PM PST by Drew68
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