Outbreak of ‘nightmare bacteria’ in Illinois stirs worry

Wall Street Journal ^ | Jan. 7, 2014 7:29 p.m. ET | Caroline Porter

[Bigg Red]

...FITS people throw because you aren’t prescribing them an antibiotic.

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I understand the problem for you, but part of the blame must be put on the physicians for not adequately educating patients. It has been my observation that far too many docs assume that their patients are more knowledgeable than they actually are. It may be time-consuming, but the patients need to learn. Perhaps a print-out could be given to them. Even better, instead of having some stupid TV show on in the waiting room, perhaps a video done cartoon style could explain the difference between viral vs. bacterial infections, the rise of ABR bacteria, etc.

[CatherineofAragon]

Just said a prayer for your son. God bless him.

[CatherineofAragon]

I actually saw someone here on FR brag about not washing his hands after going to the bathroom. He said it keeps his resistance up.

[faithhopecharity]

Hi!
Contaminated water is the most likely candidate in a flood to cause illness... by now the local health department should certainly have determined what specific bacteria are at fault. I would suggest contacting them with your question (and if there were other health hazards caused in your son’s flood the health dept should know that, too).

“Health Related Concerns
Residents affected by the recent flooding who have health or safety related questions/concerns pertaining to mold, tetanus vaccines, well water safety, etc can contact the DuPage County Health Department at (630) 682-7400 or visit the Health Department website at www.dupagehealth.org “

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That there was a contaminated water in that flood is pretty clear from the following:

(tree guy but he does mention several interesting things about the flood:)

http://www.fs.fed.us/foresthealth/fhm/fhh/fhh_10/il_fhh_10.pdf

“Health concerns rise over water...”

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20130520/news/705209922/

http://lizchaplin1.blogspot.com/2013/07/lisle-flood.html

Village of Lisle news update:

http://www.villageoflisle.org/home/index.asp?page=10&recordid=1048

[imardmd1]

Thanks for your concern and response. I scanned through these links briefly, but will scrutinize them later —

[gas_dr]

No it is not a lack of hygeine. Bacteria is upiquitous. What has happened is these patients have received so much antibiotics that the CREB and CRAB have been selected. We are colonized with bacteria. SO there is isolation once these are diagnosed to prevent transfer from patient to patient with a health care vector, but that is pretty low probability. These are generally bugs that we are colonized with (everyone of us has C. Dif, MRSA, etc. etc) but the chronicall ill eventually have to little of an immune system to deal with this and thus become sick.

[imardmd1]

Thanks so much for your thoughts. I hope that this is not the infection he has.

[gas_dr]

The fact is that my colleagues and I often educate these patients. However, they then write letters to Boards of MEdicine filing complaints because they are not wanting to be educated. They go shopping to the local doc in the box and get the antibiotic because at some point the patient can be so painful to deal with we just want them to go away. I assure you, it is not for lack of education on our end.

[Lazamataz]

I actually saw someone here on FR brag about not washing his hands after going to the bathroom. He said it keeps his resistance up.

What a piker.

I *lick* my hands clean.

[CatherineofAragon]

"What a piker.

I *lick* my hands clean."

Spreading them zombifying flu germs, are you?....

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[imardmd1]

I appreciate your thoughtfulness -- this is a difficult time. When I went to help him, I cleaned up his basement and sorted through the many items, deciding what to keep and what to toss, then got rolls of paper towel, bottles of isopropyl alcohol and 409 sprayers, and cleaned up several boxes of different items. Cleaned floor and wirebrushed cellar walls. The washer and dryer were already removed and junked, but I replaced the sink and faucets. There were a lo of other things to deal with, and his mother (my ex-wife) had been there for a couple of months to help and cook for him (bless her soul). He is still not completely well, though I was able to leave in early October to tend to my own property.

Thanks --

[faithhopecharity]

you’re very welcome
the types of bugs that floods cause in water supplies (assuming that’s the problem) ... are pretty commonplace, USUALLY, but there’s always a chance someone may pick up a real rarity... at any event, the local health department and also... the local medics — like the community hospitals there...should by now know what the particular bugs there have been.... a few phone calls “should” get you most of the answer... hopefully yours, fhc

[Bigg Red]

No it is not a lack of hygeine. Bacteria is upiquitous.

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Yes, I know that bacteria are ubiquitous. But the article refers to these as enteric bacteria, which are found in the bowels, correct? So with proper hand-washing, especially after bathroom visits, shouldn’t one be unlikely to be infected?

[Bigg Red]

Wow! Sounds really awful. May the Good Lord heal him and give him strength.

So hard to watch our children suffer.

[gas_dr]

It is not a fecal oral routing. In other words, these bacteria were not passed on from one to the other. Rather his natural bacteria became organism resistant (colonizaton happens even with perfect hygeine) and then his immune system fell apart to the point that these became opportunistic.

[imardmd1]

Yeah. Especially when you don’t have a solution.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If your main brag to God is IBLP, I can pretty well pigeonhole you. A sincere Christian would say something like yes I do love the Lord, I seek His blessing, and that’s why I am undertaking this.

I didn’t judge you; your words did.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You would have more than “experience with having the God part covered” with the right attitude here. You’d be carrying God right into it as you went and God would be the reason. I really am concerned your answer was to tout your involvement with IBLP. Now maybe they have updated their stuff since I last reviewed it, but the last time I saw it, it was a lot of Old Testament law and, indeed, a kind of aloof judgmentalism. They can tell you, for example, how someone gets depraved, but not how someone gets saved.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And so that I do not commit the same sin of omission and leave the gospel/love blank unfilled... well maybe you could look at my own freeper page.

[Bigg Red]

Okay, thanks for straightening it out for me. I misunderstood.