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EPA overrides Congress, hands over town to Indian tribes
dailycaller.com ^ | january 8, 2013 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 01/09/2014 5:25:52 PM PST by lowbridge

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To: Nifster
We made it possible by staying home or not voting in the presidential election.

Funny how people acknowledge there were 'extra' votes for duh-1, but ignore that there may very well have been missing votes in the other column. I think there was a combination of the two used to rig the election in key jurisdictions.

81 posted on 01/10/2014 7:41:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: lowbridge

Bookmark


82 posted on 01/10/2014 8:10:25 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: lowbridge
My first thought was that Riverton was a podunk crossroad's town with a few houses and a gas station.

Far from it.


83 posted on 01/10/2014 8:35:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Find where the EPA DOESN’T have the ability to do this.
This is why Reid used the nuclear option for the DC Circuit court..
Per DU
From DU- “The DC Circuit Is Unique. The DC Circuit by law is the exclusive court to consider appeals of an array of agency regulations and decisions affecting the entire country. Moreover, even when parties appealing agency decisions, congressional statutes, or presidential actions have a choice of venues, they often choose to have their cases heard by the DC Circuit due to its expertise in complex administrative matters.
While the Supreme Court is better known, it only hears a miniscule portion of appeals that are filed with it. So when the DC Circuit makes a ruling, it is almost guaranteed to be the last word on the matter.

Every facet of our lives is affected by some aspect of federal law, whether its clean air rules, gun safety, telecom regulations, investor protection rules, securities fraud laws, labor law, banking regulations, food safety requirements, credit card regulations, election law All these can be appealed to the courts, and that court is often the DC Circuit. So for those seeking to block a progressive federal government agenda, the DC Circuit is an important vehicle.”
Pretty soon voting won’t mean a thing. We’ll be controlled by agencies’ regulations rather than legislators’ laws.


84 posted on 01/10/2014 9:06:24 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: lowbridge

I guess my point was that they’re so far “off the reservation” (arrh, arrh) I can’t even imagine why Wyomingans or whatever the hell they’re called are even threatening to take this to court. It’s obviously invalid on it’s face without the need of any adjudication. Maybe just write a letter to the EPA and DOJ stating that, and throw in one to State just for the hell of it, and leave it at that.


85 posted on 01/10/2014 10:00:24 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Nifster

No, I did not sit it out.

Second, Putting liberals in office is the problem. Electing a Republican that pushes amnesty, refuses to oppose gay marriage, is good with abortion, allows Obama’s eternal overreach etcetcetc is exactly NO different than electing a Dem that does the same.

If someone believes that electing a repub that acts like a dem is acceptable, I would ask why. Because that would be totally nuts. You do not move right by supporting leftists.


86 posted on 01/10/2014 11:17:04 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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“YES we do need conservatives but we also NEED to defeat the other side which means we need people to get into action”

Just to expand on this and what I said above...

We have seen in race after race after race that running ‘anything but conservatives” (henceforth ABCs) loses in race after race. Sure occasionally the ABC will win...law of averages and all...and then what do they do? They cross the aisle with hand outstretched to the dems and their ass facing the people that elected them because they were told “it’s a lesser evil.’

I have to wonder yet again why it is that people have convinced themselves that trying to elect Democrats with R’s attached is such a good idea. Obviously conservatives think its a good idea because many keep doing it election after election. Maybe it’s because conservatism is filled to the gills with actual liberals telling them things like “They can win”, “it’s a lesser evil”, “purists are the problem” and a bunch of other memes that are famous on FR and elsewhere.

Because once upon a time, the actual founders of the country, like Hamilton, flat out told us that the enemy is better in the other camp, not yours. Perhaps if we rid our camp of people intent on moving further away from the ideas of our founders, we could fight the enemy instead of each other. But then logic would dictate our enemies wouldnt like that and do everything in their power to stop it and keep us voting for their ABCs.

How odd...it exactly that way now. Whenever you hear anyone tell you that ‘purity’ or ‘purists’ are the problem, consider the opposite of purity is corruption. Since when did conservatives work toward a more corrupt union?


87 posted on 01/10/2014 11:57:00 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

I did not advocate electing RINOs… Never have never will. I was just suggesting that some who sat on their hands were not helpful to the conservative cause. The suggestion that we should fall into tyranny so we can appreciate how bad tyranny is is suicidal on its face. I do not need to put my hand on the hot stove in order to know it is not a good idea


88 posted on 01/10/2014 12:47:17 PM PST by Nifster
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I see nothing less suicidal about voting for someone with an R attached, simply because there’s an R attached. People manage to convince themselves, or are convinced by others that it is a good idea though.

If Harry Reid or Pelosi pushes Amnesty, is the amnesty any less destructive if Bhoner and McCain do it instead?

If a random Dem cuts military bennies, is it more soothing to have Ryan do it instead?

At face value, no, there is no difference. But in actuality it’s WORSE. You expect Libs to hate the military and our borders. But it is complete Benedict Arnold territiry when the people who are supposed to stop that crap, reach across the border and help drag illegals across.

There is no way around this. When you (me, us) vote for unprincipled idiots, we get unprincipled idiots. And it borders on mental retardation for anyone (you, me or anyone else) on FR to think that voring GOP gets you anything better than the dems. Cruz and a couple others are an exception to the rule. The vast majority of current house and senate members are useless. In turn, they are backing as always each other and will back more of their kind come election time.

People that vote for that after seeing the rush left currently underway and that has been in progress for some time now have exactly no excuse. If the right stopped convincing itself that X candidate ‘can’t’ win and voted for them, X candidate just might.

The other thing is the idea that we will get this mess fixed pain free. Assuming that it can be, which is far from a given, it won’t. We will lose some races. There is a reason that politics and Chess have so much in common.

Accept it. Don’t like it but accept it. Not you personally per se, ALL of us. We will win nothing playing the current game. We have played it for 30 years and have moved FAR left of where the Dems were under Tip O’Neil. Think about that.


89 posted on 01/10/2014 1:11:45 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: griswold3

Since this is between Wyoming and another nation (Indian Tribe) shouldn’t the SCOTUS be the court of primary jurisdiction?


90 posted on 01/10/2014 1:40:29 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: G Larry
HA!!

Snort...!!

91 posted on 01/10/2014 7:20:01 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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