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To: al_c
Don't p!ss down my back and then try to tell me it's raining. I have a brother who works at a major healthcare provider. The company line was that they were 100% behind PPACA. I asked him why a healthcare insurance corporation would be supporting 0bamacare. Answer: "We are going to make a ton of money on this." He was gleeful. He's a complete libtard and was so happy that he capitalists were handing a noose to hangman.

Oh, and please check Forbes, IBD, or The Wall Street Journal if you have any doubt that healthcare insurance giants' stocks did indeed soar with the PPACA roll-out.

But this is the Internet, and just like you, I could be anyone. So don't take my word for it -- because I am most certainly not taking yours, which is 100% nonsense.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58320#.UtIbn55dUus

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2013/08/06/insurance-companies-helped-write-obamacare/

A few choice quotes, for your education:

Big insurers were omnipresent during the ObamaCare negotiations. Their most effective negotiator was Karen Ignagni, CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the industry’s leading lobby. Washingtonian magazine called her one of the top three “Top Guns” of all trade association heads, and she proved it with ObamaCare.

In March 2009, Ignagni promised President Obama: “You have our commitment to play, to contribute, and to help pass health care reform this year.” And play she did.

Ignagni and AHIP members participated in hundreds of meetings and spent millions of dollars to shape the final bill. Between January 2007 and August 2012, the political action committees of AHIP and the 11 largest health insurance companies gave $10.2 million to federal politicians, according to Federal Election Commission filings.

As for doctors? Yes many of the rank and file are absolutely against it. But the AMA, which represents about 40% of doctors, was indeed endorsing 0bamacare with a full throated roar.

53 posted on 01/11/2014 8:49:41 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: FredZarguna

Sounds like a lot of folks are going to get lessons in the consequences of being clueless, in the school of hard knocks.

As much as we might like to push that whole gaggle of complicit insurers down the stairs, however, unless somehow we can reinvent the healthcare finance world completely independently before the Blues become a fond memory, we are stuck having to redeem that resource. I mean what else would you really do, once YOU return to reality?


55 posted on 01/11/2014 8:54:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: FredZarguna

I can only speak for the Blues group that I worked for. They are the largest Blues group in the country ... 5 states. They were totally against it and the higher ups made many trips to DC and fought against it. They also encouraged the PAC to contact their congress critters and tell them to vote “no.”

And given this Blues influence on the other leading insurers, I’m sure they got others to work with them. The Obama administration probably ended up paying them off somehow.


64 posted on 01/12/2014 9:45:07 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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