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Entrepreneur: Boost Calif. wages to $12-an-hour
AP ^ | 12 JANUARY 2013 | MICHAEL BLOOD

Posted on 01/12/2014 10:48:56 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

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To: DuncanWaring

Maybe you are good at what you do at work, but I’m betting you don’t work as an economist or a corporate executive. :)


61 posted on 01/12/2014 1:30:34 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino

And for that I am eternally grateful; I earn my money honestly.


62 posted on 01/12/2014 1:32:22 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Then the one laid off collects unemployment and saves money on transportation costs and day care.

But really Jamba Juice will not compromise service levels by cutting back on employees. That’s a red herring argument.

What will happen is the two parents might be able to live, spend a little more in the community.


Really? One will collect a fraction of what they were making with unemployment for a limited time.

Highly unlikely they were paying for childcare to begin with, more likely the kids were staying with a MIL whom is on the dole. Saddled with Grandchildren what are the chances they get off the dole?> no savings.

As for Jamba Juice, the Franchise Owner/Operator will do what ever they have to do to stay solvent. If that means cutting an employee, and increasing their own hours, that is what they will do. The extra money is coming out of someones pocket, someone will have less to spend so some might have more. I don't see a net gain. I have lived in Kalifornia all my life, I know the demographics, I know the realities. I know the leftist policies that made it a reality. It is a virus that will devastate the rest of the country when it spreads.

63 posted on 01/12/2014 1:39:05 PM PST by DAC21
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To: DuncanWaring

Either you work for yourself (sole proprietorship), or you work for someone else whom acts as executive. We’ve already ascertained that you don’t work for yourself and run your own company, so I would challenge you to march into your company chief’s office tomorrow morning and let him know you feel he doesn’t earn his money honestly. I’m sure he will appropriately reward your candor.


64 posted on 01/12/2014 1:50:54 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Tariffs won't bring back jobs, they will only raise consumer prices.

A small tariff of say 10% would completely eliminate the comparative advantage of using slave overseas labor. The off shoring would stop, and gradually manufacturing would return. It wouldn't happen overnight, just like offshoring didn't happen overnight.

65 posted on 01/12/2014 1:53:41 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dinodino

Apparently you’re not familiar with the concept that “Discretion is the better part of valor”.

By the way, there was an article in one of the high-end business magazines (Harvard Business Review?) about a dozen years ago, publishing a study that showed that the majority of executives with MBAs ultimately torpedo their companies, knowing the cost of everything and the value of nothing.


66 posted on 01/12/2014 2:05:25 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

If that was in HBR I missed it. I have met plenty of MBAs I would not hire. My comment to you was in response to your blanket smear of corporate executives, not MBAs.


67 posted on 01/12/2014 2:16:32 PM PST by dinodino
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To: central_va
A small tariff of say 10% would completely eliminate the comparative advantage of using slave overseas labor.

10% wouldn't even cause a blip.

What would it take to bring back a companies business that would have to off set BILLIONS in expenses?

You would have to eliminate wage controls', i.e. unions, regulations, vis a vie EPA, OSHA, tort reforms, and the myriad other demands placed on businesses today.

It isn't that simple.

68 posted on 01/12/2014 2:20:33 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: central_va

BTW, that “small tariff” get’s passed on to the consumer....


69 posted on 01/12/2014 2:22:21 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: oldbrowser
He does not realize that labor costs are a Major part of product costs. Once you raise minimum wage, retailers will have to raise their prices, the government will recalculate the poverty level because everything is more expensive and we will be right back where we started.

The "poverty level" is just a concept which is set by government for one reason: To provide the government with an excuse to raise "apparent standard of living" and garner the votes of the idiot segment of the population. In fact, whenever the "poverty level" is set it has nothing to do with inflation adjusted income -- it is an arbitrary percentage of the population (somewhere around 20%). In other words the government will always determine that the lowest quintile (in terms of reported income) of the population is "poor". In order to "eliminate poverty" (ostensibly the rationale of the War on Poverty) everyone would have income equal to everyone else. Everywhere that concept has been attempted to be implemented has resulted in everyone (with the exception of government leadership) living in abject misery. Communism is Communism.

70 posted on 01/12/2014 2:25:07 PM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Only 10% of the USA’s manufacturing sector is unionized. Labor is one of the smallest costs per “widget” manufactured, even if the factory is in the USA.


71 posted on 01/12/2014 2:33:40 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DAC21

You don’t have a good grasp of how devastating the economy has been for people in the last five years. You are stuck on a past construct.

Professionals have had to resort to driving truck, away while the wife and kids with the help of neighbors pack the belongings for a move out of a foreclosed family home.

Construction workers making a good living consider themselves now lucky to be working at home depot.

There are those people you mention but they are not the condition you seem to be oblivious about. Families that once had a middle class life are living on two minimum wage jobs.

You need to wake up to reality, today’s reality.


72 posted on 01/12/2014 2:37:03 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Manufacturers can pay lower wages and the local environmental laws are likely nonexistent. Dumping runoff into the ecosystem is cheaper than complying with EPA regulations.


73 posted on 01/12/2014 2:58:06 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: x
I don't think it would work out that way, but will resist the temptation to simply pile on and attack the man for expressing his opinion...

What does that mean?

74 posted on 01/12/2014 3:23:43 PM PST by gogeo (The Republican Party is not ours, it is theirs.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Of course we send jobs places. Don’t be ridiculous...

Really?

Tell us more...and refrain, if you can, from abusing the English language.

75 posted on 01/12/2014 3:25:14 PM PST by gogeo (The Republican Party is not ours, it is theirs.)
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To: central_va

LOL, you’re clueless in manufacturing and costs.


76 posted on 01/12/2014 3:31:02 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: central_va

Here, study this:

http://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/homch10_e.htm


77 posted on 01/12/2014 3:32:55 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Union affiliation 10.5% manufacturing from the BLS.

BLS statistics link.

78 posted on 01/12/2014 4:54:53 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The jobs created will be enormous. Tens of Thousands will flock to California to reap the good paying jobs harvest.

Business will grow by leaps and bounds......... it will be a miracle


79 posted on 01/12/2014 5:07:49 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

That would definitely take a miracle.

Maybe Detroit really just needs a $15 an hour minimum wage?


80 posted on 01/12/2014 5:20:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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