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'Duck Dynasty's' black supporters
CNN ^ | 1/15/14 | Yolanda Young

Posted on 01/15/2014 3:47:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

ditor's note: Yolanda Young is the author of the memoir, "On Our Way To Beautiful", and the publisher and C.E.O. of Lawyers Of Color. Follow her on twitter @yolandayoungesq

(CNN) -- As "Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson returns from his brief "hiatus," he'll do so to the cheers of some surprising supporters — southern blacks. Robertson was suspended from the A&E hit show for calling homosexuality a sin and equating it to bestiality in a GQ profile. Receiving less attention were his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement.

Media have focused on two camps in the controversy. On one side are Robertson's predictable supporters, who include white evangelicals, southern Republican politicians and Fox News. On the opposing team are LBGT activists and progressives

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: race; religion; truth
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To: USS Alaska

“Nope, both are sins, but one is not the same as the other. Murder is a sin, but murder and fudge packing are not the same.”

You are saying both are sins, then saying they are not the same, but you’ve established the criteria by which we are making the comparison as ‘sin’, not that the acts are identical in every other way.

When someone say Bill and Jim are both construction workers, it would not be logical to assume they are clones.

“Pedophilia is a sin but using it in the same sentence as homosexuality does not equate the two equally ugly acts.”

Under the banner of ‘sin’ or now possibly ‘ugly acts’, they are.


21 posted on 01/15/2014 4:57:34 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Receiving less attention were his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement."

of course Robertson never said this either.

22 posted on 01/15/2014 4:59:38 AM PST by circlecity
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To: FR_addict

“A person is a mammal, a hamster is a mammal. That does not make them equal. It makes them both examples of what is a mammal.”

They are being equated as ‘mammals’ though, not conscious beings or a who would be better at helping you move. In that sense they are being equated.


23 posted on 01/15/2014 4:59:54 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: drbuzzard

When it comes to sin, the punishment for both is equal—therefore, the two crimes are equal.


24 posted on 01/15/2014 5:00:30 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: agere_contra

“To equate two things means to declare them as equal. They are the same in *all* senses.”

Simply not true.


25 posted on 01/15/2014 5:03:11 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper
....his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement.

He did not say that at all. He said that the ones he worked with were Godly.

26 posted on 01/15/2014 5:03:51 AM PST by sport
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To: SoFloFreeper

She doesn’t mention that Willie Robinson adopted a Black kid, wonder why? Oh yeah, doesn’t fit the bias of them being racist.

Pray America is Waking


27 posted on 01/15/2014 5:19:20 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Fuzz
It is true.

Declaring or affirming two things as equal is what the act of equation means.

Well; at least we've drilled down to the cause of the problem. You just didn't know what 'to equate' meant.

Back to work for me. Later guys.

28 posted on 01/15/2014 5:21:04 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Yes, but they unfortunately came at the same time, pushed by evil people who knew what they were doing. Civil rights was good and proper so many people helped out with that. What we didn't know was tagged onto it was the destruction of the very people we wanted to help.

All blacks wanted was equality, and that was right and good. They didn't get it. What they got was permanent dependence which is pretty close to slavery. Not all, not by any means, but enough. Phil's mistake was not clearly identifying the welfare state, but he would have been attacked either way. You can't speak the truth anymore.

29 posted on 01/15/2014 5:24:37 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: circlecity

The funniest thing about this to me is...I can just imagine stupid liberals watching DD to listen to what Phil says to try to incriminate him in some kind of “crime”. He “kidnapped” Bradshaw (and others), he sexually harasses Miss Kay, “murders” ducks and other critters, “child abuse” for dressing a duck at the high school. It really is a parody of all that is stupidity knowing that the libs assume a man like Phil is stupid just because he is not like them.


30 posted on 01/15/2014 5:25:48 AM PST by gr8eman (How ya doin Bob?...Bitchen!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

But, 9 times out of 10 those black southerners will still vote Democrat. So what good are they?


31 posted on 01/15/2014 5:39:11 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: bray

Willie Robertson not only adopted a Black Baby, but he even gave him his name; they call him ‘Little Will’. Oh by the way, he did this LONG before anyone ever thought of “Duck Dynasty”.


32 posted on 01/15/2014 5:41:17 AM PST by snowtigger
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To: Fuzz
That’s actually what equate means.

Wrong.

If I said that hot and cold are both weather conditions, I am not equating the two, I am classifying them.

To say that homosexuality and bestiality are both sins does not "equate" them any more than saying shoplifting and murder are both crimes would equate them.

Homosexuality and beastiality and adultery are all sins involving sexual "orientaion". That does not equate them, but they are all classified under the general heading of Sin and the subheading of Sexual.

Pride is also a sin. And being Proud of your sin is much worse than simply being a slave to it. We are all slaves to sin in one way or another but few of us are Proud of our sins. The natural reaction is to be ashamed and sorry.

When you publicly identify yourself by your sin you are in a much worse spiritual condition than if you are in the closet about it. In that sense Gay Pride is a worse sin than Bestiality.

When they goat buggers start having parades, then we can officially declare our Society as spiritually dead.

33 posted on 01/15/2014 5:49:51 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: agere_contra

“Declaring or affirming two things as equal is what the act of equation means.”

In mathematics, yes. In linguistics, not as precise as that. Equating one thing to another in the way we communicate is used more broadly to categorize, analogize or classify things or ideas through comparison. Equating lower taxes with higher revenue or equating higher spending with better results, for example.


34 posted on 01/15/2014 5:52:59 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

Let’s try a definition since simple logic hasn’t gotten any traction:

equate verb
: to say or think that (two things) are equal or the same
equat·edequat·ing

Full Definition of EQUATE

transitive verb
1
a : to make equal : equalize
b : to make such an allowance or correction in as will reduce to a common standard or obtain a correct result
2
: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable

Now only someone with a complete inability to understand the term ‘equal’ would say I equated the two because they are both crimes. There is a wide span of crimes in terms of severity and harm caused. Jaywalking is a crime also, but to think that anyone would equate it with murder by calling it a crime is utterly daft.

A stubbed toe in an injury. So is a sucking chest wound from a .44 magnum. Nonetheless I have not equated them.

Go back up and read that definition a few times. Equate does not mean compare or classify in a like way. To equate the two items must be equal. (funny how that root word gets involved and all)


35 posted on 01/15/2014 6:14:52 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Fuzz

You must speak a very strange dialect of English. For most of us who speak the language, “to equate” is much stronger than to classify in a common category.

Consider the following dialogue:

A: Name some car brands.

B: Subaru, Mazarati,...

A: How can you equate a Subaru and a Mazarati?

Plainly A is a lunatic, has some bizarre agenda, or doesn’t know what the word “equate” means.


36 posted on 01/15/2014 6:17:47 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Blacks back the duck. Good video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugHbFdX6q0


37 posted on 01/15/2014 6:19:42 AM PST by txgirl4Bush (Impeach obama)
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To: drbuzzard

“b: to make such an allowance or correction in as will reduce to a common standard or obtain a correct result”

It’s right there in the definition you provided.

From my previous post:

In mathematics, yes. In linguistics, not as precise as that. Equating one thing to another in the way we communicate is used more broadly to categorize, analogize or classify things or ideas through comparison. Equating lower taxes with higher revenue or equating higher spending with better results, for example.

I realize it’s kind of a trivial thing to argue over, but I tend to equate arguing over technicalities with amusement.


38 posted on 01/15/2014 6:23:11 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yolanda, Grammar 101 and editors are our friends.

The headline and the article don’t match. I was shocked the headline came from CNN but the back slap article is full on CNN left hating meme.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 6:24:38 AM PST by bgill
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To: sport

He didn’t say a lot of what is being reported he said. It’s obvious she did not listen to the interview or read a transcript. She did nothing but regurgitate the lies and spinning others have put out there which puts a huge question on her accuracy in reporting on her “family”, imo.


40 posted on 01/15/2014 6:31:49 AM PST by bgill
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