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Chefs Don't Agree With New California Law Requiring Gloves During Food Preparation
NBC Bay Area ^ | Thursday, Jan 16, 2014 | Chase Cain

Posted on 01/16/2014 1:31:42 PM PST by nickcarraway

Many consider sushi an art. But a new state law will soon require a glove between these artists and their creations.

"The service is going to be slow because of the glove," said Gary Wong, a sushi chef. "When you're making sushi, you have to use the bare hand to feel the texture and the fish."

Wong also worries that gloves could lead to fingers getting cut with a slip of the knife. And it's a worry shared across cuisines, like at Pican in downtown Oakland.

"It's difficult because your hands sweat," said Sophina Uong, Pican's executive chef. "You're in a very dangerous environment when you're dealing with high degrees of heat, going in and out of the oven."

Because Pican has a full bar, even their bartenders must wear gloves or use tongs. From squeezing limes to picking up olives, bartenders are prohibited from touching anything with their bare hands.

"You have to be worried about food-borne contaminants, but I'm just not aware of what the law is addressing," said Michael Leblanc, Pican's owner. "Because I'm not aware of this big illness that's going around."

Frequent diners also don't seem to understand what problem the new rule is solving.

"To put a glove on, it doesn't prevent anything," said Dennis Vales, a customer. "You pick up the glove with your hands. You open them and put them on. You've already touched the glove. It's senseless."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: bartendergloves; california; foodsupply; nannystate; workplace
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1 posted on 01/16/2014 1:31:42 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Leave it to CA liberals to ban plastic bags and mandate plastic gloves.


2 posted on 01/16/2014 1:35:44 PM PST by Argus
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To: nickcarraway

This is a pernicious law, written by people not informed or familier in the industry. I suppose that that is almost always true, isn’t it?


3 posted on 01/16/2014 1:38:51 PM PST by lurk
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder if they will require gloves at gay bath houses.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 1:39:55 PM PST by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: nickcarraway

They take your dirty money with the same hands that fixed your food.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 1:41:23 PM PST by FES0844
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To: nesnah
I wonder if they will require gloves at gay bath houses.

Gloves? Yes. Condoms? No.

6 posted on 01/16/2014 1:43:21 PM PST by ken in texas
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To: nickcarraway
I stayed at a resort over New Years. They apparently have a policy that the bartenders wear gloves. On the surface this seems OK, until you realize that they never take them off. Give the bartender some cash and they touch it with the gloves and then touch glassware, fruit garnishes, etc. Drop something on the floor? Pick it up with gloved hands and then contaminate everything else.

It's not like the gloves are magically germ free. Once contaminated everything they tough is contaminated. It realville, it's probably WORSE than bare hands because when your hands get dirty you might consider washing them but no one washes the gloves and this guy at least didn't change them at all.

7 posted on 01/16/2014 1:43:45 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: nickcarraway

Then, once they have gloves on, they are probably less likely to wash or rinse their hands between steps in food preparation, since their hands won’t feel dirty or sticky. This would seem to make them more likely to cross-contaminate food items or utensils than with no gloves.


8 posted on 01/16/2014 1:43:59 PM PST by NEMDF
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and pick up items of the floor, inadvertently scratch an itch, touch knobs on freezer doors etc that others have...


9 posted on 01/16/2014 1:44:09 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: nickcarraway

In Virginia, you are required to scrub your hands before you apply plastic gloves, then again after you remove them. I don’t know what the laws are elsewhere. I’m surprised it took so long for this law to make it to California.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 1:46:39 PM PST by sueQ
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To: nickcarraway
Gary Wong, a sushi chef. "When you're making sushi, you have to use the bare hand to feel the texture and the fish."

Wong is wight.

11 posted on 01/16/2014 1:49:09 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Argus

We’ll played


12 posted on 01/16/2014 1:50:04 PM PST by Nifster
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To: NEMDF

Excellent point!


13 posted on 01/16/2014 1:50:16 PM PST by sueQ
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder what Jon Taffer would say about that.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 1:52:38 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: nickcarraway

Stupid law. You can’t cook with gloves on!

The kids at burger-doodle wearing gloves aren’t ‘cooking’, they just assemble things.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 1:57:19 PM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

The bartender probably wears them to keep all the dirt off his hands. LOL


16 posted on 01/16/2014 2:00:24 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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‘Had Enough Yet


17 posted on 01/16/2014 2:02:47 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: NEMDF

Exactly right


18 posted on 01/16/2014 2:08:04 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: Resolute Conservative
and pick up items of the floor, inadvertently scratch an itch, touch knobs on freezer doors etc that others have...

How does wearing gloves change that?

19 posted on 01/16/2014 2:10:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: NEMDF

At Whole Foods I watched a butcher, who had a glove on only one hand, pick his nose with his gloved hand.


20 posted on 01/16/2014 2:12:18 PM PST by Ditter
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To: nickcarraway

But wait...Draft of California bill would mandate porn stars wear protective eyewear like goggles during filming
First it was mandatory condoms. Now lawmakers want to make porn stars don more gear to keep them safe from infection from bodily fluids. If an updated draft of Bill AB 640 goes into effect eye protection would be required during filming sex scenes, according to the proposed legislation.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/calif-law-porn-stars-don-goggles-sex-article-1.1512447#ixzz2qbR6yTYN


21 posted on 01/16/2014 2:22:44 PM PST by CreviceTool (A Good Samaritan with a handgun saved my life...)
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To: Argus

Just require that the bartenders place more alcohol in each drink to ensure that the germs are killed. Then you won’t need gloves or at least the customers will care less.


22 posted on 01/16/2014 2:24:13 PM PST by fini
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To: nickcarraway

I’m against this. Instead of washing their hands, food handlers will just leave the gloves on all the time, regardless of what they are doing. That’s been my observation, at any rate.


23 posted on 01/16/2014 2:27:01 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Exactly!


24 posted on 01/16/2014 2:28:05 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ditter

I watched someone wearing gloves (at a local chicken fast food place) remove a piece of gum from his mouth, then turn to me and ask me what I would like to order. I said “nothing, thanks” and walked out. He looked confused.


25 posted on 01/16/2014 2:30:42 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: nickcarraway

Anyone know the waiter with a spoon in his pocket joke?


26 posted on 01/16/2014 2:31:55 PM PST by jetson (THE)
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To: nickcarraway

The Waiter and the Spoon

I took some friends out to dinner last week, and I noticed a spoon in the shirt pocket of our waiter as he handed us the menus. It seemed a little odd, but I dismissed it as a random thing. Until our busboy came with water & tableware; he, too, sported a spoon in his breast-pocket. I looked around the room and all the waiters, waitresses, busboys, etc. had spoons in their pockets.

When our waiter returned to take our order, I just had to ask, “Why the
spoons?”
“Well,” he explained, “our parent company recently hired some Andersen Consulting efficiency experts to review all our procedures and after months of statistical analyses, they concluded that our patrons drop spoons on the floor 73% more often than any other utensil at a frequency of 3 spoons per hour per workstation. By preparing all our workers for this contingency in advance, we can cut our trips to the kitchen down and save time...nearly 1.5 extra man hours per shift.”

Just as he concluded, a “ch-ching” came from the table behind him, and he quickly replaced a fallen spoon with the one from his pocket. “I’ll grab another spoon the next time I’m in the kitchen instead of making a special trip,” he proudly explained.

I was impressed. “Thanks. I had to ask.” “No problem,” he answered, then he continued to take our orders. As the members of my dinner party took their turns, my eyes darted back & forth from each person ordering and my menu. That’s when, out of the corner of my eye, I spotted a thin, black thread protruding from our waiter’s fly. Again, I dismissed it; yet I had to scan the room and, sure enough, there were other waiters & busboys with strings hanging out there were other waiters & busboys with strings hanging out of their trousers.

My curiosity overrode discretion at this point, so before he could leave I had to ask. “Excuse me, but...uh...why, or what...about that string?” “Oh, yeah,” he began in a quieter tone. “Not many people are that observant. That same efficiency group found we could save time in the Men’s room, too.” “How’s that?” .. “You see, by tying a string to the end of our, eh, selves, we can pull it out at the urinals literally hands-free and thereby eliminate the need to wash our hands, cutting time spent in the restroom by over 93%!”

“Oh, that makes sense,” I said, but then thinking thru the process, I asked, “Hey, wait-a-minute. If the string helps you pull it out, how do you get it back in?”

“Well,” he whispered, “I don’t know about the other guys; but I use my spoon.


27 posted on 01/16/2014 2:34:44 PM PST by jetson (THE)
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To: trisham

LOL! I walked away from the Whole Foods meat counter too.


28 posted on 01/16/2014 2:35:10 PM PST by Ditter
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To: nickcarraway

Ridiculous law. As long as a food=preparer washes their hands thoroughly, there is nothing to worry about.


29 posted on 01/16/2014 2:40:49 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: nickcarraway

What is really sad is the fact that many people, paid by the taxpayers, took *our* time to actually write this law. I wonder how much it cost?

These types run the country folks!!


30 posted on 01/16/2014 2:49:18 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: CreviceTool

They should wear Level 4 hazmat suits to prevent Ebola.


31 posted on 01/16/2014 2:50:07 PM PST by Argus
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To: fini
Just require that the bartenders place more alcohol in each drink to ensure that the germs are killed. Then you won’t need gloves or at least the customers will care less.

I've always suspected that was the real reason behind the European tradition of drinking a "digestif" (especially the ones as strong as kerosene or heavily herb-infused) after a meal. I suppose "to aid in digestion" is a vague way of saying "reducing the chances of illness due to food poisoning".

32 posted on 01/16/2014 2:54:32 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: nickcarraway

so how often are they required to change gloves?


33 posted on 01/16/2014 2:54:50 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: nickcarraway

Pretty soon it will be illegal to prepare food anywhere and in any way. Then we will all die and the Commies will get their way.


34 posted on 01/16/2014 2:58:11 PM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: Ditter

At Whole Foods I watched a butcher, who had a glove on only one hand, pick his nose with his gloved hand.”

Ditter - thanks so much for sharing this morsel of information. LOL


35 posted on 01/16/2014 3:15:43 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m going to go out on a limb and make the assumption that the demographic in question e.g. California chefs, largely voted for hope and change.


36 posted on 01/16/2014 3:17:03 PM PST by SpaceBar
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I am so glad you liked it.

Since you liked it, I’ll tell you the rest of the story. The butcher looked at the booger, rolled it around between his gloved fingers and then he either flicked it or wiped it on his pants. :)


37 posted on 01/16/2014 3:40:49 PM PST by Ditter
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To: nickcarraway

Less Mexican hands on the food would be much more effective.


38 posted on 01/16/2014 3:40:51 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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so how often are they required to change gloves?

And how long until the enviro-wackos come along and decry how much extra waste is going into landfills and demand biodegradable gloves?

39 posted on 01/16/2014 3:44:54 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. *Asterisk.*)
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Now you sound like my twelve-year-old grandson whom I on occasion remind that there are some things which one discusses only while in the boy’s bathroom. Good grief Ditter!!!


40 posted on 01/16/2014 3:48:10 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: nickcarraway

I watched a guy in a grocery store deli recently wearing gloves. From what I could tell he was acting like the gloves were there to protect his hands from grime - not to protect the food from germs. I was surprised he didn’t scratch his head and pick his nose with the gloves on... it was almost that bad.


41 posted on 01/16/2014 3:49:04 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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Gee, and we wonder why there are people popping up with freaky allergies all over the place...

The human immune system needs to engaged every now and again.

Period.

You getting sick allows your immune system to it's 'sharpen it's claws' every now and then on germs.

If it doesn't get any practice, don't expect it to perform in the big game.

This is not saying that food preparers should not be doing the obvious like washing their hands after a bathroom trip, but this is just stupidity taken to a new bureaucratic level.

I'm waiting to see the first stories out of California for all the 'latex allergies' that are going to pop up now that every food preparer is touching everything with gloved hands.....where people start doing the funky chicken on the floors of all these restaurants.....and how did this happen....and we need to have MORE regulations, and it's all 'for the children'!!

How do we keep electing such idiots??!!?!!

42 posted on 01/16/2014 3:50:16 PM PST by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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LOL! I knew that was your opinion before I replied to you. :D


43 posted on 01/16/2014 3:59:53 PM PST by Ditter
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It's not like the gloves are magically germ free.

Heh. Good point. And one very few would think of.

They're stuck on the "icky skin" thing.

44 posted on 01/16/2014 4:15:35 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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The “funky chicken”?

Wow. I haven’t thought of that in years. Time for it to make a comeback. But maybe not on the floors of restaurants.


45 posted on 01/16/2014 4:16:36 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: FES0844
Really....!!!!????!!!???!!!

I can't remember the last time someone made my meal...and collected my money.

46 posted on 01/16/2014 4:19:08 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Fedupwithit
Not many latex gloves being made much anymore.............

FWIW-

47 posted on 01/16/2014 4:20:21 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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No kidding?? What are they making them out of now?

Been a while since I've had to purchase a sterile hand covering..

48 posted on 01/16/2014 4:21:52 PM PST by Fedupwithit (Your opinion: It's all yours....don't expect me to listen to it, or even acknowledge it..)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ll eat at home.


49 posted on 01/16/2014 4:30:08 PM PST by bgill
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It's senseless."

And that differs HOW from the rest of liberalism?

50 posted on 01/16/2014 4:31:20 PM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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