Dogs are NOT descended from modern wolves but split from common ancestor 34,000 years ago

Daily Mail ^ | 16 January 2014 | SARAH GRIFFITHS

[Norm Lenhart]

Evenin’ everybody....;)

[Salamander]

“Evenin’ everybody....;)”

/Salamander looks behind her to see if there’s a crowd hiding back there, somewhere.

;D

[Norm Lenhart]

Cadaver eyes upon me see....nothing......

;)

[Salamander]

But I have other uses for them...darling.

[and a thread jumps the rails...again]

:D

[the OlLine Rebel]

All I’m saying is I wish everyone would stop repeating uncertified things.

You don’t have to cuss at me. Sorry if I seemed a bit overbearing.

[Fractal Trader]

ping

[SunkenCiv]

Study Reveals More Clues to Origins of Domesticated Dog
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3092470/posts

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Fractal Trader.

[Squawk 8888]

My own take on the 7-day creation is that days 1-5 took several billion years and days 6-7 took at least half a million years. Eden is somewhere in Mesopotamia where humans became self-aware.

[Squawk 8888]

I would add that it wasn’t so much a domestication as it was the development of a symbiotic relationship.

[shibumi]

Jack Frost is nippin' at his nose -

So let's get that beer nippin' at his liver!

[shibumi]

"Who's Yer Daddy?

"?"

[ZULU]

Yes. There arguments appears to be nonsensical.

It appears dogs derived from a wolf population 39,000 years ago and they then evolved along an isolated line with periodic outbreedings with wolf populations.

Ergo, they ARE domesticated wolves. To my knowledge, the only other wolf species in that time frame was the Dire Wolf, and clearly dogs are not related to them, but rather to the grey wolf.

[COBOL2Java]

"Take me to your leader!"

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"What - HIM? You've GOT to be kidding!"

[madison10]

Let’s see, Mother Earth is 6,245 years old, as of last October, Funky Fundie Theologians tell us, which means these dogs must have come from another planet. ALIENS!

Don't be rude. Someday they'll discover that carbon dating has been wrong the whole time it's been used. "Funky Fundies" will have the last laugh.

[sodpoodle]

I agree. Probably much like the behavior of the modern day squirrels, foxes and ground-hogs who congregate around food sources. I truly believe there are many extinct ‘canine’ species which have not been discovered which might explain the variety of physical appearance in modern dog breeds.

[SunkenCiv]

No, in fact, “they” won’t. Radiocarbon dating has a range of only 50,000 years, calibration ie refinement using tree rings to find the slight fluctuations in C14 goes back perhaps 10,000, and beyond that other deposits accumulated year by year, such as coral reefs and stalactites/stalagmite reach back a bit more. Other forms of radiometric dating have other, sometimes overlapping ranges.

[AndyJackson]

Thanks for the link. This is one of those scientific articles where the genius comes out in the basic design of the study. Truly fascinating.