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Can a gun protect India's women from rape and violence?
The Guardian ^ | January 19, 2014 | Jon Henley

Posted on 01/20/2014 1:26:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Named after the 23-year-old who was raped and killed in Delhi in 2012, the Nirbheek pistol has been designed for women. But it has drawn fierce criticism from women's groups and anti-gun campaigners.

The Nirbheek gun designed for women: comes in a bejewelled maroon case.

It weighs barely 500g, is slim enough to slip into a purse, features an attractive darkwood handle on a black titanium-alloy body and comes in a bejewelled maroon case. Engraved on its barrel is the name Nirbheek: Hindi for fearless, and a synonym for Nirbhaya, the name given to the unnamed 23-year-old Delhi woman whose torture, gang rape and, ultimately, death at the hands of six men in December 2012 sparked national and international outrage.

The launch by India's state-run Indian Ordnance Factory of what is billed as the country's first handgun for women, and named after the victim of such a horrific murder, has drawn fierce criticism from women's groups and anti-gun campaigners who say it is an admission of state failure and an insult to Nirbhaya's memory. But Abdul Hameed, the factory owner, told the BBC the gun would increase women's confidence and deter attackers: "We believe that women who carry this gun will feel fearless," he said.

Despite tough new laws against rape, a greater police presence and the launch of dedicated women's helplines in several cities, shocking attacks on women – such as last week's gang rape of a 51-year-old Danish tourist in New Delhi – remain commonplace in India: general violence and homicides using guns may be falling, but levels of reported sexual crimes have increased significantly in recent years. Figures from the National Crime Records Bureau suggest one rape is committed every 22 minutes....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; india; nirbheek; women
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Behold: The real war on women.
1 posted on 01/20/2014 1:26:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

.22 LR caliber?


2 posted on 01/20/2014 1:29:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like a break-top webley circa 1900’s. But,if it works why not?

CC


3 posted on 01/20/2014 1:31:04 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

start handing them out and see how it goes.

I predict they will need to issue “tags” as the women take ferals on and leave them as a carrion for the buzzards...


4 posted on 01/20/2014 1:31:58 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But it has drawn fierce criticism from women’s groups

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Why on earth fierce criticism from this source? (We wouldn’t want any women to be able to defend themselves, now would we? /sarc)

Sounds similar to the idiocy we see manifested by liberal “women’s groups” in this country.


5 posted on 01/20/2014 1:32:32 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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"Can a gun protect India's women from rape and violence?"

Maybe and maybe not. But I suggest an experiment. Let every woman in India who wants to, carry a concealed pistol. Do a 20 year study and at the end of the 20 years, see if rape statistics have declined dramatically.

6 posted on 01/20/2014 1:33:18 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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A "gun for women" sends entirely the wrong message, women's rights activist Ruchira Gupta told CNN. "Nirbhaya was a victim of violence caused by a desire of six men to project their masculinity through domination," she said. "Ultimately, we have to challenge the culture of domination and violence through nonviolence, not through introducing more tools of violence."

Translation: "I am a communist and I seek to culturally transform the nation and disarm the sheeple so that a totalitarian regime can be put in place, and people like myself can rule over serfs like you."

7 posted on 01/20/2014 1:33:38 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
.22 LR caliber?

.32
8 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:40 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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.22 LR caliber?

The real issue is to create a gun that women in poverty can afford, and .22 is cheap to build a pistol for. It might not produce a one-shot kill, but nobody wants to take a .22 bullet for the fun of it.

9 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:42 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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lots of people have died from .22 LR rounds. I believe many underestimate the danger of the .22 LR round. Espeicially from a rifled long gun barrel.


10 posted on 01/20/2014 1:37:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The real issue is to create a gun that women in poverty can afford, and .22 is cheap to build a pistol for.

You're right, and evidently they were wrong. I searched and found one article stating it is .32 cal.
11 posted on 01/20/2014 1:38:35 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Former Brit subjects neatly scale down a Webley.

I did not get the caliber? Anyone?


12 posted on 01/20/2014 1:39:01 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Can a gun protect India's women from rape and violence?

No. They need one each.
At least those who wish to carry, the others will enjoy the effects of indirect protection.

13 posted on 01/20/2014 1:39:13 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: PapaBear3625

That is the real problem with the weapon. The article says the gun costs 1200 BP ($2000USD) which is roughly what the average Indian makes in a year. Sounds like Rossi and Taurus need to start shipping 6 shooters to India.


14 posted on 01/20/2014 1:39:22 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lots of folks on gun boards have been ridiculing the design and cost of the Nirbheek pistol even though they agree with the motion behind it's intent.

Indians are limited to what firearms they're allowed to have -- and I remain surprised they're allowed to have any at all -- but this Nirbheek pistol only seems like it would need a little work in melting and debobbing to make it a more comfortable CCW pistol.

15 posted on 01/20/2014 1:40:13 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have a friend who almost died from a .22LR. As it happened, he did lose his lower leg.


16 posted on 01/20/2014 1:41:00 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: PapaBear3625; Secret Agent Man

I agree with SAM. If you were to get shot in the upper left portion of the body with a .45 you might survive. But if you get shot in the same spot by a .22, it might spin around inside you and puncture several vital organs before it stops.


17 posted on 01/20/2014 1:41:05 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Challenging the culture of domination and violence through nonviolence” is all very nice, but when you’re in imminent danger it’s much quicker to just shoot the SOB.


18 posted on 01/20/2014 1:41:07 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The great colonel Askins once said that if .22 rimfires could just about make mexican deer extinct(some question as to the veracity of that)then it’s powerful enough to kill a man. Melon shots would work nicely.


19 posted on 01/20/2014 1:42:13 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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IOF (India Ordnance Factory) makes '32-Bore' civilian revolvers chambered in .32 S&W Long.

Not a completely terrible caliber, aside from that it's from 1896.

20 posted on 01/20/2014 1:43:52 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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