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Oklahoma House Speaker moving toward Senate bid (T.W. Shannon)
The Hill ^ | January 21, 2014 | Alexandra Jaffe

Posted on 01/21/2014 6:12:46 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican

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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Lots of freepers are hardcore pimping Bridenstine. I wonder what mouth breathing “higher power” is behind their ardor.


21 posted on 01/21/2014 10:53:36 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I agree with you on Shannon. If he won that would be an amazing and important victory. He has been a very impressive young man. Lankford could be OK, but his record shows he has been more of a party organization man. Wish I knew who Fallin, Coburn, Inhofe and Cole would endorse. I assume Cole and Watts would go for T W, but read one post which said Coburn might endorse Lankford.


22 posted on 01/22/2014 3:54:13 AM PST by Amish (A Michigan Voter)
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To: Amish

Fallin and Coburn are liberals.

Inhofe is good. Cole is an ultra liberal.

Shannon has been battling Governor Fallin over Common Core for the last year.


23 posted on 01/22/2014 5:41:49 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Adorable kids. I love the little boys expression!


24 posted on 01/22/2014 5:44:41 AM PST by pesto
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To: campaignPete R-CT; Impy; BillyBoy; PhilCollins

I haven’t been following the IL congressional primaries closely, but here’s my take:

IL-16: Overwhelmingly Republican CD, so the GOP primary is the only election that matters. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (who defeated the more conservative Congressman Don Manzullo in the 2012 primary) has raised over $750,000, while his only GOP challenger (filing closed in December, so no one else can jump in), Rockford Tea Party leader David Hale, has raised under $5,000. (BTW, most of Rockford is in the adjoining IL-17.) Unless Hale starts raising some major money, Kinzinger will win handily.

IL-13: A marginal district (Romney carried it by like 0.2%) represented by Republican Rodney Davis, it’s the one IL CD that got away from the Democrats in 2012 (they conceded the four CDs into which they packed as many Republicans as possible). Davis only got the nomination because Congressman Tim Johnson dropped out after having won the nomination, and a committee of party hacks from the district picked Davis (an aide to Congressman Shimkus) over former Miss America and conservative spokesperson Erika Harold. Harold is running in the primary this year, but is well behind in fundraising (she had raised $150,000 by Sept. 30, while Davis had raised over $1 million *more than her* by such date), and the few polls I’ve seen have Davis well ahead. I hope that Harold can defeat Davis, since she’s an extremely effective communicator and she’d join Mia Love and maybe one or two others as the first black Republican women in Congress (which would help us to convince conservative and traditionalist blacks to “come home” to the GOP), and since I don’t like how Davis was hand-picked in 2012 only to see him barely eke out a win against a second- or third-tier Democrat opponent, but as of now Harold has quite the uphill climb. And the winner of the GOP primary will face a competitive general election against Judge Ann Callis or Professor George Gollin.

IL-11: I think that state Representative Darlene Senger is the only one of the candidates running who has the experience and profile to run a competitive race against Democrat Congressman Bill Foster. http://www.sengerforcongress.com/ No idea how the primary race is going, but I do see that Senger has raised almost twice as much as presumably her toughest challenger for the nomination (Chris Balkema).

IL-08: This is the district that Congressman Walsh coughed up to the execrable Tammy Duckworth; it was made way more liberal in 2012 redistricting, but deadbeat-dad Walsh likely would have blown the race even under the old lines. In 2014, the only GOP candidate who has reported raising any money is businesswoman Manju Goel, an immigrant from India: http://www.manjuforcongress.com/. Goel had raised $200,000 as of September 30, and my experience with Indian-American candidates is that they have no problem raising money (Indian-Americans tend to be very affluent and like to contribute to political campaigns of fellow Indian-Americans). Her sole GOP opponent, military veteran Larry Kaifesh, had not raised any money by Sept. 30, and I’m not sure if he can make it a real contest (I’m copying some Chicago-area FReepers for their input on this and the other races). The winner of the primary should be competitive against Duckworth in spite of the district’s liberal lean.

I hope this helps.


25 posted on 01/22/2014 6:09:08 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: pesto

I agree, the little boy’s expression is priceless. That’s as good a family picture as you’ll ever see.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 6:10:28 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Impy; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy

Is there anything particularly wrong with Bridenstine ? I think OK Conservatives consider him the best of the House delegation with Lankford & Cole bringing up the bottom. The big question remains if he’ll run, which would split the vote between him and Shannon and potentially hand it to Lankford. There’s no excuse for not getting the most right-leaning candidate sent to DC.

Inhofe runs again this year, so the next opportunity for interested parties won’t be until 2020 (presumably when he’d retire when he’s 86). I’m surprised he’s running again, he must be fairly confident he’ll get a chairmanship with a GOP takeback. At present, it looks like the Dems may not even challenge him.


27 posted on 01/22/2014 7:12:31 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I don’t think there’s a thing wrong with Bridenstine that I can tell. I’d rather support Shannon, though, who has compiled a conservative voting record over much more than a single year (Bridenstine’s 2012 election was his first foray into politics) and who has proven that he can shepherd bills through the legislature. I also think that Shannon’s election to the Senate would help the GOP expand its voter base by increasing the number of black conservative Republicans in the national spotlight.

Bridestine has been in Congress for just one year; I hope that he stays in the House for the time being and builds a record of accomplishment before seeking higher office. But if Bridenstine runs, and makes the run-off against Lankford, I’d support Bridenstine in the run-off.

I’d rather have Shannon win the nomination in the first round, though.


28 posted on 01/22/2014 7:42:47 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: ConservativeMan55

In 2004, when Coburn ran for the U.S. Senate, he said that, since he’s stronlgy pro-life and pro-death penalty, he thinks that doctors, who perform abortions, should be executed. A liberal wouldn’t say that.


29 posted on 01/22/2014 8:02:01 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

Would a liberal..

Vote for big bailouts, gun control, amnesty and also fought against Ted Cruz’s efforts to repeal Obamacare.. siding with John McCain?

Is that the liberal you’re looking for??

Cause that’s Tom Coburn!!!!!


30 posted on 01/22/2014 8:05:02 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; Impy; BillyBoy

In the 11th District, the best candidate is Chris Balkema. He’s the only conservative, in the race, who has held an elected office. I got petition signatures for him.

I don’t know whom I support, in the 8th District, but it’s not liberal. Before the last election, all of those voters had a republican congressman, Joe Walsh, Bob Dold, Peter Roskam, or Randy Hultgren. In 2012, the majority of those voters had a republican state senator, including Matt Murphy, Kirk Dillard, or Carole Pankau. The main reason that Duckworth won is that voters believed her lies, when she said that Walsh didn’t pay his child support.


31 posted on 01/22/2014 8:07:54 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins; campaignPete R-CT; Impy; BillyBoy

Phil, I am unfamiliar with Balkema’s and Senger’s record, but had read that Senger had been criticized by liberals for her anti-abortion bills. What are the issues on which Balkema is conservative and Senger liberal?

As for the IL-08, as redrawn in 2011, it was carried by Obama by 61.5%-37.1% in 2008 and by 57.4%-40.9% in 2012. In 2012, Obama’s victory margin in the IL-8 was actually higher than it was in the IL-10! If those voters aren’t liberal, then why the heck were like 60% of them voting for Obama?

And as for the reasons why Walsh los in 2012t, yeah, not paying child support may have been one of them—maybe Republicans in IL-08 shouldn’t have been scouring the unemployment lines or the bankruptcy filings for their nominee. While Duckworth is a scumbag, Walsh has no one to blame for his downfall but his own irresponsibility and dishonesty. He never warned the GOP about his irresponsibility, and then compounded it by lending his campaign money that he could have used to make his child-support payments:

“Before getting elected, he had told Laura Walsh that because he was out of work or between jobs, he could not make child support payments. So she was surprised to read in his congressional campaign disclosures that he was earning enough money to loan his campaign $35,000.

“Joe personally loaned his campaign $35,000, which, given that he failed to make any child support payments to Laura because he ‘had no money’ is surprising,” Laura Walsh’s attorneys wrote in a motion filed in December seeking $117,437 in back child support and interest. “Joe has paid himself back at least $14,200 for the loans he gave himself.”

Walsh’s attorneys responded in court filings: “Respondent admits that funds were loaned to his campaign fund. . . . Respondent admits that the campaign fund has repaid certain loans.””

http://www.suntimes.com/6720892-417/tea-party-rep.-joe-walsh-sued-for-100000-in-child-support


32 posted on 01/22/2014 9:53:25 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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I heard, from many sources (which I can’t remember, now), that Rep. Senger is stronly pro-choice. I heard Balkema say that he’s pro-life.

I don’t know why Obama did so well, in the 8th District. Duckworth got a lower percentage than Obama, in her district, so that district had a lot of split-ticket voting.


33 posted on 01/22/2014 3:01:24 PM PST by PhilCollins
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I didn’t know that James Lankford was a liberal. His voting record doesn’t bear that out. I’m inclined to support T.W. Shannon, but if Lankford wins, it’s not the end of the world.


34 posted on 01/22/2014 3:20:42 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: PhilCollins; Impy; BillyBoy; campaignPete R-CT

Here’s an article on Darlene Senger’s pro-life bill that got voted out of committee and pissed off liberals: http://www.lifenews.com/2011/03/16/illinois-panel-passes-pro-life-bill-on-abortion-center-regs/

Senger also voted against authorizing same-sex marriage in IL: http://votesmart.org/bill/votes/46320#.UuBSfunD-70

The IL-11 is a suburban Chicago district that Obama carried by over 17% in 2012 (and by nearly 24% in 2008), so we can’t expect a 100% social conservative to beat Foster in that district. And unlike, say, the Rock Island/Miline/Rockford/Peoria/Galesburg IL-17, which Obama also carried by 17% but which is filled with blue-collar Democrats who are more socially conservative, the IL-11 includes Aurora, Naperville and other suburbs that aren’t hotbeds of social conservatism. Senger may be as socially conservative a candidate as could win that district.


35 posted on 01/22/2014 3:38:13 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Viennacon
The upside is, once he is defeated, we can replace his House seat.

It's a special election. Neither Lankford or Bridenstein need give up their seats to run.

36 posted on 01/22/2014 3:47:55 PM PST by Lower Deck
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To: Clintonfatigued

This post sets forth the main objections to Lankford’s Senate candidacy from conservative groups (all based on his votes and on one public statement):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3114183/posts?page=17#17

Obviously he’s no Dede Scozzafava, but neither is he as conservative as Speaker Shannon (or as Congressman Bridenstine).


37 posted on 01/22/2014 3:57:53 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I read about that bill that required better conditions for abortion clinics. I just checked her campaign site for a list of her views on important issues. That site doesn’t tell her views about any issues.


38 posted on 01/22/2014 3:58:20 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: Lower Deck

I thought it was to take place in November?


39 posted on 01/22/2014 4:11:27 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: PhilCollins

You’re correct, Senger is purposely silent on the issues. I agree that she should discuss at least some issues in her website, even though she may want to downplay her positions on social issues if they would hurt her in the general election. I’d rather have that 40.6% Romney district elect her because of her opposition to Obamacare, support for education, etc. and then have her vote to defund Planned Parenthood and the like than have Foster turn the election into a referendum on abortion. (Don’t get me wrong, I love turning elections into referenda on abortion, just not in districts in which doing so will make us lose.)

I visited Balkema’s website, and he does list some basic principles (some of which he may wish to flesh out). I also looked at a map of the IL-11 (see http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/pdf/congdist/pagecgd113_il.pdf), and noticed that it doesn’t include any part of Grundy County (which is where Balkema lives and where he serves in the County Board). Balkema does have ties to Joliet (where he works), which is in the SE part of the district, but he would be at a huge disadvantage in the general in the Cook, DuPage, Kane and NE Kendall precincts. For those voters, a candidate from Grundy County might as well hail from Iowa.


40 posted on 01/22/2014 4:24:43 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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