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Statistics: 49% of black men arrested by age 23 (but only 16% of black women)
WPXI ^ | January 21, 2014 | Rick Couri

Posted on 01/22/2014 6:07:15 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

The numbers come from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and looked at 9,000 people.

The research followed all races of men from the time they were 12-16 years old until they were adults.

The findings say 49% of black men had been arrested by the time they were 23. Hispanic men were next with a 44% arrest rate. 38% of white men reported they had spent time behind bars.

The crimes covered everything from assault to underage drinking with minor traffic arrests not factored in.

The numbers told a very different story when it came to women.

20% of white females say they had been in the pokey by age 23. Hispanic women were next at 18% and black women third at 16%.

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1 posted on 01/22/2014 6:07:15 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’m probably gonna get in a lot of trouble with his comment, but I suspect that judges are loathe to imprison young black and hispanic females for minor crimes if they either have young children and/or are pregnant..


2 posted on 01/22/2014 6:11:53 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

38% of white men?

i am not buying it...


3 posted on 01/22/2014 6:11:54 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

That good ole thug coulture. What a way to live. One way or another they are on the dole.


4 posted on 01/22/2014 6:12:40 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

9,000 people? Not where i live. Must be 9,000 people from Detroit.


5 posted on 01/22/2014 6:13:35 AM PST by Mr_Peter (Proud to be a Republican in Hingham Massachusetts)
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To: Busko

“Thank God We Got Penitentiaries.” - Richard Pryor


6 posted on 01/22/2014 6:13:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Racist justice system?

Jim Crowe and slavery legacy?

Racist laws?

Oh the pain.


7 posted on 01/22/2014 6:14:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: ken5050

No problem here. I myself was thinking they don’t have as much opportunity to even be in a bad situation, for those reasons.


8 posted on 01/22/2014 6:15:53 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: dfwgator

“Thank God We Got Penitentiaries.” - Richard Pryor”

LOL

“Why did you kill everyone in the house?”

“They was home”


9 posted on 01/22/2014 6:17:33 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

10 posted on 01/22/2014 6:17:40 AM PST by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: Mr. K

They would be measuring those who spent even a night in county. Most people, who go to jail, go over unpaid fines or minor charges.


11 posted on 01/22/2014 6:18:24 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

the only answer is to arrest 49% of white men before age 23.

Ideas around DoJ

j walking
parallel parking
late for work
being white
not listening to RAP
providing for ones family
wearing pants properly
behaving in school


12 posted on 01/22/2014 6:18:27 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“49% of black men arrested by age 23”

I’m suspicious of headlines like this, seeing them as a push to restore felon voting rights. I want to know how many black men are CONVICTED by age 23, and what they are convicted of.


13 posted on 01/22/2014 6:19:02 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mr. K
With the War on (some) Drugs and Mothers Against Drinking Dads (MADD), I am not surprised.

Many young men today have a DUI on their records that serves to diminish, if not destroy, their young lives and their abilities to provide for their children.

Thanks a pile, MADD Moms!

Thank goodness we have an all-powerful government with limitless resources to step in and provide for these mothers and children.

14 posted on 01/22/2014 6:20:02 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thank you, Lyndon Johnson.


15 posted on 01/22/2014 6:21:10 AM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: ETL

>>>The research followed all races of men from the time they were 12-16 years old until they were adults.

The findings say 49% of black men had been arrested by the time they were 23. Hispanic men were next with a 44% arrest rate. 38% of white men reported they had spent time behind bars.<<<

Stalin must be envy.


16 posted on 01/22/2014 6:21:54 AM PST by cunning_fish
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17 posted on 01/22/2014 6:22:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Envisioning

Very good advice...

I wonder if Jim understands that this could very well be a reply to any claims of “disparate impact” in ANY aspect of life...


18 posted on 01/22/2014 6:24:40 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Check out this 16%'er, Baby-Momma!:
19 posted on 01/22/2014 6:25:42 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Mr. K

I’m not buying it either. I just tried to figure out if I know ANY white guy who spent a night in prison...and I can only think of one guy who MIGHT have. I don’t know nearly as many black guys well enough to know, but at 55, I’ve known a LOT of white guys over the years.

38% sound completely bogus to me.


20 posted on 01/22/2014 6:28:41 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: headstamp 2; dfwgator
Richard Pryor on Arizona Penitentiaries
21 posted on 01/22/2014 6:28:48 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: cunning_fish

I don’t understand the connection here. But then I’m not a supporter of Russia and Putin as you are.


22 posted on 01/22/2014 6:30:01 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Scoutmaster
Sorry. When I first found the link, it played for me without a commercial.

If you click the link above, prepare for a 30-second commercial.

23 posted on 01/22/2014 6:32:44 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

Warning: The Pryor link contains obscene language.


24 posted on 01/22/2014 6:35:24 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Mr. K
Roger that. I know an awful lot of white men, and can count on two hands (maybe just one) the number who've spent time in the pokey.

And yes, I'd include Drunk driving and other convictions in that list. Of course, I lead a boring life, but there are lot more people more boring than me out there.

25 posted on 01/22/2014 6:36:31 AM PST by wbill
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To: Mr_Peter

That’s what I was thinking too…….those percentages of all groups are stunningly high.


26 posted on 01/22/2014 6:39:02 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Perhaps in considering this statistic, it should be understood that the desire to criminalize everything that is endemic in some parts of our society and the rise of, if not an actual police state, at least a police state mentality, is a major contributing factor to this.

These arrests include (among other things) arrests for leaving a knife or gun in one's car when one drove to school (rightly decried as both absurd and unjust by most FReepers), arrests for assault resulting from high school fights that in our youth would have been handled by the principal and teachers without any criminal charges, arrests for DUIs which would not have been DUIs a decade ago before the Feds pushed the states to lower the blood alcohol level required for the charge, and lots of arrests for underage drinking by 18 to 20 year olds, that again (in most states) would not have been a crime in our youth.

While there has been a decline in morality in our society (I'm not even sure it's concentrated among the young, cf. my comments on the "Era of Bad Stewards" on other threads), a lot of this is a result of the coercive nanny state as documented in books with titles like One Nation Under Arrest and Three Felonies a Day.

27 posted on 01/22/2014 6:39:35 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Mr. K

I wonder how the stats work out when the category is violent crime?


28 posted on 01/22/2014 6:42:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Mr. K

“38% of white men? i am not buying it...”

Neither am I, unless if I am really really out of touch. I’m from a small town, and it’s been a while since I graduated, still, I and everyone has a pretty good idea of who’s been arrested, and it sure isn’t 2 out of every 5 guys.


29 posted on 01/22/2014 6:44:41 AM PST by MNDude
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I do not believe their statistics. No way these numbers are this high for any of the categories.


30 posted on 01/22/2014 6:51:26 AM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Mr. K

Not buying that % of white men either.


31 posted on 01/22/2014 6:52:42 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The findings say 49% of black men had been arrested by the time they were 23.

If this is true it just shows that blacks are treated with kid gloves. The police arrest them but the black robed tyrants and liberal prosecutors let them off the hook and back into the streets. Saint Trayvon was an experienced criminal. The school authorities and police new it, but the worst they gave him was a slap on the wrist.

But it may not just be ideology that keeps these cretins out of prison, it could be plain logistics. If all those blacks who truly deserved it were convicted and sent to prison, the prisons would be literally bursting at the seams. So would the prison budget.

And lets not forget another thing. Prison for these thugs is absolutely no deterrent to crime. Prison to them is like a vacation. There are three hots and a cot. No bills, no work. Free cable tv and gym. They get to hang out with their friends all day and its all the drugs and on-the-down-low sex they want.

32 posted on 01/22/2014 6:53:07 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

More Marxist driven science.

Pray America is Waking


33 posted on 01/22/2014 6:53:15 AM PST by bray (http://www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
For being late on an alimony payment or for beating up innocent people on the streets. It really does matter...
34 posted on 01/22/2014 6:56:22 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: ETL

>>>I don’t understand the connection here. But then I’m not a supporter of Russia and Putin as you are<<<

Hint: not even Stalin arrested that many people.


35 posted on 01/22/2014 6:57:17 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Mr. K
38% of white men?

i am not buying it...

No, and I don't see where this report comes from the a study performed by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. There is a recent survey that was discussed here previously -- the problem is that it was a survey that asked a relatively small sample -- who may or may not be answering truthfully -- and that the conclusion doesn't stand the test of even making sense.

According FBI and Census Bureau statistics regarding arrest numbers and US population racial identification, the arrest rate for blacks isn't 11% higher than it is for whites, it's about 250%. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

I don't doubt that taxpayers have wasted millions paying for another study that comes to conclusions that are completely wrong. I suppose this is going to become one of those fables that, after it's repeated enough, the majority will actually believe.

36 posted on 01/22/2014 6:59:07 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Mr. K

They’re messing with the numbers to make it seem it’s ‘all equivalent’ - it’s not. Ask the people who run large city police departments where their forces are deployed... they know the truth.


37 posted on 01/22/2014 6:59:08 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: cunning_fish
Hint: not even Stalin arrested that many people.

So you are saying that Stalin's Soviet Union was a better place to be than the US, based solely on this fishy report?

38 posted on 01/22/2014 7:01:29 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Eric Holder will demand the arrest of more white people, to offset these racist numbers — whether or not white people committed any crimes!


39 posted on 01/22/2014 7:17:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The solution is obvious.

Eric Holder needs to put out an Executive Order to police departments to stop arresting black men.

/SARC (I think??)


40 posted on 01/22/2014 7:20:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ETL

Nope, but 49% arrested is outrageous.


41 posted on 01/22/2014 7:21:38 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Not buying the 38% of white men stat, but I can see that if accepted, it will leveraged to show racial discrimination in conviction rates, as well.

Simplifying, for Rio Linda. If there are 100 men -- 80 white, 20 black. The arrest rate for whites is 40%, so 32 whites arrested. The arrest rate for blacks is 50%, so 10 are arrested. If the conviction rate is the same for both races, then prisons/jails would be roughly 75% white - 25% black.

If that's not the racial makeup of prisons, then obviously there's a racist judiciary.

See how it works? Unless that pesky, 38% isn't right.

42 posted on 01/22/2014 7:21:57 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Mr. K

I’m not buying any of it. Almost half of ALL black men have been arrested by the time they reach the age of 23?


43 posted on 01/22/2014 7:23:13 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I don’t believe these numbers.


44 posted on 01/22/2014 7:26:18 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Mr. K

They are counting things like MIP — minor in possession of alcohol, which is the lowest misdemeanor, but they take the kids to the pokey.


45 posted on 01/22/2014 7:28:12 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: cunning_fish
49% arrested is outrageous.

Even if that number was in the general ball for black men being arrested, would you automatically assume most didn't actually commit a crime? That the American "system" is mostly to blame for it?

46 posted on 01/22/2014 7:30:18 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
The findings say 49% of black men had been arrested by the time they were 23. Hispanic men were next with a 44% arrest rate. 38% of white men reported they had spent time behind bars.

As I stated in an earlier post, I am not buying ANY of these numbers.

However, IF they really are correct, then far from seeing it as an indication that a high percentage of young Americans are criminals, I would consider it the most telling evidence I have seen of our country's transformation from a free society to a tyrannical Police-State.

47 posted on 01/22/2014 7:30:19 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; GeronL

Legalization of pot is a trick to lock up more black people.

It’ll be “available” to those over 18/21 but 16 year olds are going to buy it and be criminally liable for thier actions.


48 posted on 01/22/2014 7:35:13 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: ETL
Even if that number was in the general ball for black men being arrested, would you automatically assume most didn't actually commit a crime?.

I would assume that most had not committed a crime - at least until the arrest statistics were compared to analogous conviction statistics.

These statistics report ARRESTS - not convictions. Our justice system is based on the philosophy that one is innocent until one is proven guilty. And as far as I know, that applies to people of all races. Do you think it does not?

49 posted on 01/22/2014 7:38:45 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS
Our justice system is based on the philosophy that one is innocent until one is proven guilty. And as far as I know, that applies to people of all races. Do you think it does not?

Of course I don't think it doesn't apply to all races. But I've been around enough blacks in my 50+ years to know that an awful lot of them have been in trouble with the law, at least prior to 25 years old.

50 posted on 01/22/2014 7:44:59 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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