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To: cloudmountain
I don't think California is a socio-political basket case.

I've read a few of your posts here. You seem like an intelligent and well informed person, but you are widely off the mark in your assessment of California.

California has one of the highest out-migration rates of individuals and businesses of any state in the country - and for good reason. It's over-taxed, over-regulated, and over-populated by leftists and liberal leeches of every description.

Things may be hunky dory for the super wealthy, the political class, and the gimme class on the bottom, but the working middle class and small businesses are being squeezed to death to pay for the bloated Socialist system in Sacramento. More and more of them are voting with their feet to escape to states that don't penalize them for being honest, hard working Americans.

I was born in California 60 years ago, and called the place my home for half a century, so I'm not some outsider, looking in. I'm one of those who was essentially pushed out of California, for the crime of being a moderately successful business person with a family.

I invite you to search on the keyword, 'California', on FR and read some of the articles that come up. It's not even debatable any longer that California is in very serious trouble.

52 posted on 01/23/2014 4:36:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I guess you and I view the world of California out of two very different pair of spectacles.

I like my life a whole lot. I am only responsible for myself, family, friends and those who will accept help. I can't bleed for people just because.

Your assessment is your point of view. My opinion, after traveling THE WORLD OVER (except Australia and New Zealand) is that our own poorest of our poor are OODLES better of than the "middle class" of most second and third world countries.

But, don't take my word for it: GO SEE FOR YOURSELF.

61 posted on 01/23/2014 6:12:10 PM PST by cloudmountain
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