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California students sue over teacher tenure
Press Democrat/ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | January 26, 2014 | JULIE WATSON

Posted on 01/26/2014 1:42:37 PM PST by rey

Nine California public school students are suing the state over its laws on teacher tenure, seniority and other protections that the plaintiffs say keep bad educators in classrooms.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: teacher; tenure; union

1 posted on 01/26/2014 1:42:37 PM PST by rey
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To: rey

Excellent.


2 posted on 01/26/2014 1:44:24 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: rey

We should be able to get rid of bad teachers but how to we get rid of bad students?


3 posted on 01/26/2014 1:44:51 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: rey

These kids must be recent transplants from Flyover Land...


4 posted on 01/26/2014 1:45:24 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: rey
oh! goody..students sueing teacher for ineptitude..it's starting..
death to the National Education (union thugs) Assoc.

5 posted on 01/26/2014 1:47:20 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wish I had had the guts to do that when I was in high school!


6 posted on 01/26/2014 1:48:51 PM PST by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Ellendra

We had some stinkers, too.


7 posted on 01/26/2014 1:50:48 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
We should be able to get rid of bad teachers but how to we get rid of bad students?

Firing squad.

8 posted on 01/26/2014 1:54:49 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
We should be able to get rid of bad teachers but how to we get rid of bad students?

Graduate them.

9 posted on 01/26/2014 2:00:17 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer
"graduate them"
some may scoff @ that statement, but they've been going it
for 45± years..
think back to those years (if you can :)

10 posted on 01/26/2014 2:10:17 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Jonty30

Well, I like the idea behind it. One of the leaders said that if the case was won, it would cause the California Legislature to take action.

Anyone guess what that gets us? It will be crafted to leave us in the same position we are today, or more likely worse.

At best that would push the real fax back another decade.


11 posted on 01/26/2014 2:10:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: rey

Tenure should be outlawed everywhere.


12 posted on 01/26/2014 2:16:13 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
"...but how to we get rid of bad students?"

Write them up and eventually expel them. It's often done.

Better yet, outlaw adultery and no-fault divorce, then the worst kinds of students will be seldom seen again.


13 posted on 01/26/2014 2:18:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: rey

pass the popcorn... this will get very interesting considering how strong the union is in Cali


14 posted on 01/26/2014 2:30:00 PM PST by Nifster
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To: familyop

A number of colleges are eliminating tenure and replacing it with relatively short term renewable contracts with a performance review before renewal. It is a start.


15 posted on 01/26/2014 2:32:40 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
We should be able to get rid of bad teachers but how to we get rid of bad students?

Or how to get rid of bad Caleefornica politicians?

16 posted on 01/26/2014 2:38:30 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: rey
This should have happened 40 years ago when I spent 2 years in San Jose schools due to my father's work. It must be really bad now.
17 posted on 01/26/2014 2:42:31 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

” These kids must be must be recent transplants from Flyover Land... “

No offense intended but maybe you just happen to drink the
“Every single Californian is a flaming libtard” Kool-Aid nonsense.
We may be a distinct minority but there are still more conservative
Californians than their are total voters in many states.


18 posted on 01/26/2014 3:03:59 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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19 posted on 01/26/2014 3:10:28 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Sivad

“” These kids must be must be recent transplants from Flyover Land... “

No offense intended but maybe you just happen to drink the
“Every single Californian is a flaming libtard” Kool-Aid nonsense.
We may be a distinct minority but there are still more conservative
Californians than their are total voters in many states.”

No kidding. I certainly tend to believe CA stands for Crazy America, but I live there.

Isn’t Free Republic based in Fresno, CA?


20 posted on 01/26/2014 3:15:06 PM PST by rey
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To: skinkinthegrass

If you retain them, the tax payers have to pay even more for students who really don’t care.


21 posted on 01/26/2014 3:22:33 PM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: rey

True, FR is based in Fresno. That we have likeminded folks
from all across the country trashing all of us ain’t fun. It is
like the gun grabbers saying that every weapon owner is
a murderer in the making.


22 posted on 01/26/2014 3:27:16 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

How about we start randomly drug testing all government public school teachers, politicians, cops, DA’s, mayors, city councils, city workers, county workers, congress, POTUS, and everyone else in government?


23 posted on 01/26/2014 3:34:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chalkfarmer
well..unfortunately then; certain measures must be taken, @ the end of 8th grade level,
discharge them..but keep educating (in advanced courses :) to the ones who show
potential, keep an (very) open door for those whom are "late bloomers"...those that
bloom late, shall taught by fellow students (whom shall receive BoS degree an w/full
board/fees @ the University of their choice as an incentive @ 2 years' end)

24 posted on 01/26/2014 6:10:25 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Sivad

“True, FR is based in Fresno. That we have likeminded folks
from all across the country trashing all of us ain’t fun. It is
like the gun grabbers saying that every weapon owner is
a murderer in the making.”

Don’t give them the satisfaction of any response. The need to take a look in their own backyard. I considered a move to Texas years ago, and I didn’t because it isn’t the glittery “beacon of Democracy” that the folks there would have you believe that it is. In the town where I had planned to move, my company’s management asked the “city fathers” if the town’s public swimming pool were “integrated.” The answer was” Why sho, cose the N-——er’s don’t come cause they know they ain’t welcome.” I’ve never heard anyone say that here in California.
Point is, we’re all going to hang together or each of us will hang separately. This nonsense about this state or that being a scourge, leaves out the large percentage of the population there who are good, decent, conservatives. Further, badmouthing is an idiot’s way of “communicating” his angst about a situation that he has no means of controlling. Kudos to Jim that he’s here in California doing what he can to make a difference. That should be everyone’s goal, because if California goes under as some would like to see, the rest of the country will not be far behind.


25 posted on 01/26/2014 8:33:47 PM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

I have complete admiration for your attitude. However, some
folks make those blanket comments out of pure ignorance.
I wouldn’t say that all of them get satisfaction out of my
responses but you may be correct about some of them. Others
get my point. As you are an old time Californian you know as I
do that things have not always been as they are today. Our
liberals are not all homegrown but have come from some
of the the same states as our conservative critics. You might
say their gain has been our loss. Also, there seems to be a
slight tinge of animosity stemming from all the publicity given
to California over the past 50 years. Truth is a lot of that
glitter isn’t homegrown either. It too is a product of transplants
thinking they have reached the promised land. Fact is we
natives don’t look at it that way because we don’t have much
history living in other places to compare. Cheers.


26 posted on 01/26/2014 9:44:46 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sivad

“Fact is we natives don’t look at it that way because we don’t have much
history living in other places to compare. Cheers.”

I suppose a forum like FR, like being involved in a”volunteer” organization (or a political party for that matter) “allows” one to “rub shoulders” with a myriad of personality types and intellectual levels. But here on FR, with the notable exception of what I will call, for lack of a better word, “state baiting,” there appears to be a group of people who seek a better place for all us here in the US. But where it comes to the “blame game,” there are a lot of folks here who like to jump in with both feet. Their simplistic solution is to “eliminate” all the “bad states,” thereby “saving” the rest of the country from the impending doom of Californication or some other state-Ication. And from what I have seen, a lot of them seem to gravitate to people for elective office who are so intemperate and out of touch as to be incapable of being elected excepting perhaps in some small corner of their “society” where the “behavior and values” seem rational. They seem to see these people as “the real conservatives.”
Anyway, I consider it one of my life’s choicest blessings for my parents to have settled in California to build their family. We’ve just had our 55th High School Reunion this past Fall, and the one thing that everyone said (and they are scattered literally around the globe) was just how lucky we were to have grown up in California in the 1950’s. As you correctly point out, the decay in this state came largely from without. Actually, it had its seeds in WWII, with all the “migration” here to build ships and aircraft. I mean who would go home to The South with it’s lousy weather when you’ve seen how it is here? As for the “Californication” charge, I heard from a Freeper from CO who is in auto repair. He said that if his business is indicative of where the “migrants” to CO are coming from, it isn’t California, but rather Wisconsin, Minnesota, and the East Coast. So all this nonsense about CA liberals poisoning their states, it just that. But you watch when this post hits, they will be there with their “amen chorus” about just “how wrong” you and I are. As you said Cheers. On it’s worst day, CA is a whole lot better than any other place on the planet, and I’ve seen a very large piece of it in my travels. And I will bet you that Jim Robinson has no intention of packing up and leaving Fresno either.


27 posted on 01/26/2014 10:37:40 PM PST by vette6387
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