Skip to comments.Washington Post Columnist: Monica Kinda Asked For It
Posted on 01/27/2014 11:35:03 AM PST by Nachum
Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus suggested former President Bill Clinton was not entirely culpable for his affair with Monica Lewinsky Monday on MSNBC.
The comment came in the context of a discussion about Sen. Rand Pauls (R., Ky.) comments yesterday where he accused President Clinton of predatory behavior toward his former White House intern. Marcus said Republicans seem to address female sexuality only in the contexts of victimization or promiscuity.
To evidence her point, Marcus added she did not believe Monica Lewinsky was an entirely innocent victim in the scandal. I recall some thong flashing there, she said.
ANDREA MITCHELL: So, the Republicans still have a ways to go in figuring out
RUTH MARCUS: What i think they need to do sorry to interrupt. They need to write a list of words
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Oh, really? Typical liberal neither taking responsibility or blame for what one of their own has done. Always another’s fault.
Conclusion: Clinton’s a slave to his animal instincts, unable to control himself and can’t be blamed for responding automatically to a flashed thong by humping the lust object.
Just like all victims of rape and sexual harassment were asking for it, too.
Or is that only when the perp is a Democrat?
The issue is not the "affair" - who cares ? I'd cheat on her Thighness too. The impeachable offense was lying many times to the Grand Jury!
Well, she she did take a rather deep gulp.
The issue is that Lewinski was a young subordinate and that Clinton should have had the manliness to exercise self control and avoid her.
So, Ruth, if a woman comes on to a policeman and he has sex with her, is that okay because she was kinda asking for it? How about a teacher with an 18 year old student? Is that okay because maybe the student was kinda asking for it.
Can you imagine them forgiving Bush for molesting an intern if she ‘flashed a thong’
We let the msm destroy Todd Aiken because a comment. And no matter badly and how often Clinton abuses women he gets a pass.
Of course Monica was asking for it. That’s entirely beside the point. The issue was the extreme “power imbalance”. If Clinton had been (say) a community college instructor, and Lewinsky a student; he would have lost his job (and might even face criminal charges). It’s all about the “power imbalance” — making it a form of white-collar rape. Meanwhile, Clinton was the most powerful man in the world, and Lewinsky was an unpaid intern. There could not possibly be a greater power difference; and the onus was on Clinton to avoid improprieties — no matter what Lewinsky was “asking for”.
I wonder if Juanita Broderick was “asking for it” too?
I guess maybe ‘No’ doesn’t always mean ‘No’ does it... (if you’re a democrat)
Or Kathleen Willey. Can you believe the nerve of her to show up in the Oval Office and ask Bill for help the day after her husband died? She was asking for it...
So...if Mitchell’s husband, the Crypt-Keeper, had a pretty, young, blind, desperate, pathetic intern come onto him, it would have been ok if the Crypt-keeper opened his fly, let the dust out, and then let her have her way with him? Got it.
Hum I guess with her logic Beyoncé (Grammy Performance)is asking for it.
[ Liberal logic ]
It is more like Islamic Fundamentalist logic, ie. “the men have no self control or are expected to have no self control and the women if they get abused most certainly asked for it”.....
Pretty much Satanic from both sides
it was the liberals who wrote sexual harassment laws whereby female subordinates cannot consent to sexual contact with male superiors due to the power relationship, so whether monica was willing or not, she was the victim.
If any liberal was caught molesting a todler on the capital steps the media would blame the kid. Anything to protect their allies. If a conservative was found with picture of their 3 YO child in the bathtub the media would scream child abuse.
Oh puh-leeze. What, are you new?
All that "power imbalance" stuff only kicks in when it's someone the Left doesn't happen to like that's in the crosshairs.
Whereas a progressives is kind, sensitive, and giving, and any woman would welcome his touch.
Just so you understand where liberal women are coming from.
No, and I can’t imagine Bush having so little respect for his wife and daughters, either.
Also, it’s obvious if a conservative commentator blamed the woman and her thong, there’d be hell to pay — not to mention proof of “the Republican war on women.”
Also, if memory serves, Clinton at the start maneuvered her into jobs where she would be around more often, staying late, in his office alone, etc... etc... She was willing, but he knew what he wanted, clearly saw his opportunity, and planned accordingly.
Clinton and his supporters have been very effective in persuading large numbers of Americans that the Lewinsky scandal was only about sex. But I see a bigger issue here, because Clinton is on record as saying that he would have done anything to keep knowledge of the Lewinsky affair from becoming public.
To me, that statement raises a very serious question: What if, instead of sending her recorded Lewinsky conversations to Ken Starr, Linda Tripp had instead secretly offered them for sale, say, to the Chinese government? Or to the Russians? Or even to agents of Saddam?
What kind of blackmail leverage would those tapes have provided to a foreign government in dealing with America on sensitive trade, security or military issues? One of the few things Clinton ever said that I believe is that he would have done anything to keep the Lewinsky affair secret. Given his demonstrated track record of selling out American interests for personal or political gain, how far would he have gone in compromising Americas real interests in order to protect his own neck when threatened with blackmail?
Pretty far, I believe. Equally distressing is the prospect Clinton might, in fact, have actually succumbed to foreign black mail on other occasions in order to hide different sexual episodes that ultimately did not become public. There is no way to know, of course, but I prefer presidents for whom such a scenario is not a plausible possibility.
I recall some thong flashing there, she said.
Gees I can only conclude she was there - involved in a threesome?
You completely missed my point -- and yet you summarized it perfectly, in your last sentence.
Remember that hard-core feminist Gloria Steinem defended Bill Clinton during the Paula Jones / Kathleen Willey / Juanita Broderick sex/rape controversies.
And she is the one who proposed the “One free Grope” rule whereby a man like Clinton (who she greatly admired) should get one free pass if he tries to pressure or force a female into having sex or performing a sex act.
Steinem developed that doctrine only after she stood by Anita Hill when she and the democrats tried to destroy Clarence Thomas for allegedly discussing sex and sex films with Hill.
But it doesn't matter as he is dem so all logic and laws do not apply.
Yet they screamed bloody murder when Todd Akin said what he said about rape..gee..liberalism truly is a mental disease
Employer. Employee. Authority figure. Got it?
Monica Lewinsky was an intern. She was an employee. Got that. Employee.
Bill Clinton was the CEO. He was her boss. Employer. Authority figure. Got it?
Taking the moral issues aside, bosses shouldn't be getting their blanks blanked by employees, unless there was a pre-existing relationship. As he's the authority figure, it opens things up for harassment lawsuits if things end badly. It also affects national security in this case due to blackmail leverage.
So even if "hey she was askin for it!' which even male chauvinist pigs like me (oink oink) don't use anymore, it was at best - a real dumbassed thing for Clinton to do as long as she worked there.
Moral issues aside, there's a reason I don't go out and sleep with my clients or employees. As the sayings go. "Don't crap where you eat. Don't sleep where you work."
When you are POTUS, a 19 year old intern should be totally "Off Limits" even if she is begging for it. A First Lady that gives this perv a skate is no lady. Enabling sexual harassment is anathema to the liberal code and justifying Hilary just proves the insanity of the liberal mind.
So I guess that Marcus was absent when the Dems went to town during the Clarence Thomas hearings. Or just the other day when Obama gave his foolish "I've got your back" speech regarding female sexual assault victims.
Was this columnist named ‘Mike Hukabee’? No? Okay then, no matter.
Clinton has a history of such behavior.
We still have no idea what the meaning is "is" is.
Hey Ruth Marcus - what about Paula Jones? Was she ‘asking for it’? Or Juanita Broaddrick - the ‘chick’ who the FBI said had a credible rape charge against Clinton?
We know she was ‘asking for it’...
Can we use the word ‘chick’ now - and how about dirty jokes where ‘girls’ are the brunt of the joke?
Come on Ruth Marcus, tell us how far we can ALL go, not just Clinton.
She was a young gullible lady infatuated with the most powerful man on earth paying dirty attention to her.
He broke every Federal and civil law regarding people in power messing with the vulnerable help there is.
Plus he gave China rocket and missile guidance technology so China can now blow a nuke up anywhere in the world.
The question is, “Was Monica Lewinsky a victim.”
The answer is, “No.”
The most powerful man on earth and an unpaid intern.
If a republican had exploited this..... and the follow up would be that her role was only to service him, there was never an affair, or a relationship, or even the conventional sex act, it was her servicing him.
Did I misunderstand you, or did our respective ironies cancel each other out, passing like ships in the night?
It’s true. She did flash her thong. Ross Perot said he would have called her daddy and said “Your daughter just showed me her panties!”
The thing is, Clinton, as the elderly “gentleman” should have had more control and.....and....and....CALLED HER DADDY and asked “Do you have any daughters who are a little bit older and not so fat?”
Yeah, actually. Student/Teacher sex is permitted on most college campuses. ASU, I know for sure.
“Sure getting good grades these days, Lisa... how do you do it??”
And Specter voted “NOT PROVEN”....
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Juanita Brodderick, Paula Jones, etc., etc.
It’s how my ex did it. No joke.
Sounds just like how the democratic lefts terrorist buddies dispense of justice for rape. It’s the woman’s fault.