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States consider reviving old-fashioned executions
AP via Breitbart ^ | 28 Jan 2014

Posted on 01/28/2014 6:01:40 AM PST by US Navy Vet

ST. LOUIS (AP) — With lethal-injection drugs in short supply and new questions looming about their effectiveness, lawmakers in some death penalty states are considering bringing back relics of a more gruesome past: firing squads, electrocutions and gas chambers. Most states abandoned those execution methods more than a generation ago in a bid to make capital punishment more palatable to the public and to a judicial system worried about inflicting cruel and unusual punishments that violate the Constitution

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty

1 posted on 01/28/2014 6:01:40 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Hanging. Snap. Over.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 6:03:58 AM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Public hangings. We should not be executing anyone in a private room. Executions should be done in a public square.


3 posted on 01/28/2014 6:06:14 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: shankbear

I agree. Hanging is quick, cheap and uniformly effective when done properly. They should also be conducted in public in front of the county courthouse where the crime was committed.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 6:09:57 AM PST by Ancient Man
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To: P-Marlowe
Executions should be done in a public square.

Only if there is audience participation.... 'Who is the lucky boy or girl that gets to pull the lever?!'

/johnny

5 posted on 01/28/2014 6:10:39 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: US Navy Vet

Nitrogen. They’ll be out before they know what hit them. Much better than cyanide.


6 posted on 01/28/2014 6:10:41 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Ancient Man
Hanging is quick...

and should be done soon after guilty verdict.

A hanging delayed is a hanging denied.

7 posted on 01/28/2014 6:14:10 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: US Navy Vet

“With lethal-injection drugs in short supply”

A massive overdose of heroin wouldn’t work?


8 posted on 01/28/2014 6:21:55 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: C210N
I would support a change in the rules of evidence if it would mean getting the appeals down to a maximum 6 months.

And I agree with everyone here: public square. Surrounded by a combination of sheriff's deputies and militia.

9 posted on 01/28/2014 6:25:52 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Yes, a public hanging. Tends to deter future criminal activity as well.


10 posted on 01/28/2014 6:27:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Potassium chloride is cheap and readily available in every hospital.

What’s the problem, aside from feeling like your innards have been napalmed?


11 posted on 01/28/2014 6:27:09 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: US Navy Vet

bringing back relics of a more gruesome past: firing squads, electrocutions and gas chambers

gruesome? Why?
Bring them back. Where is hanging? It should also be done in Prison Yards publicly. Not hidden away.


12 posted on 01/28/2014 6:28:11 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t understand why this is so hard. Hire one of those euthanasia doctors from Europe. They seem to have it down. It would give them a legitimate outlet for their trade.


13 posted on 01/28/2014 6:46:50 AM PST by uscga77 (the truth remains)
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To: US Navy Vet

14 posted on 01/28/2014 6:46:58 AM PST by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I fail to see the “cruel and unusual punishment” aspect for a criminal to be shot, hung or electrocuted after in many cases viciously murdering one or more other humans.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 7:02:10 AM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Stalin is smiling in Hell at how well Obama has copied his communist organization.)
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To: US Navy Vet

One will note that in many parts of Mexico the vigilantes have taken over public policing after the major fail of the government. When the Mexican government threatened to send in the Federalees, the vigilantes threatened to wipe them out also as accomplices of the drug cartels and local corrupt police. The Mexican government finally relented and made the vigilantes the accepted local police.


16 posted on 01/28/2014 7:06:47 AM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Stalin is smiling in Hell at how well Obama has copied his communist organization.)
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To: shankbear
I couldn't possibly sneak him in until Monday, sir. I'm booked solid.


17 posted on 01/28/2014 7:09:54 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: US Navy Vet

IMO, we are getting very close to the end of the death penalty.

The EU knew what it was doing when they leaned on Pharmas to quit selling execution drugs to the states. Look for a deluge of court rulings that will indeed find the alternate methods “cruel and unusual”.

The death penalty may well indeed remain on the books. There will just be no way to enforce it.


18 posted on 01/28/2014 7:15:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I fail to see the “cruel and unusual punishment” aspect for a criminal to be shot, hung or electrocuted after in many cases viciously murdering one or more other humans.

...the crowing remarks on this topic appear to be tongue-in-cheek, at least hopefully...we should all acknowledge a return to hanging and firing squads will not happen nor should it...

...what I think should happen to violent criminals who ruin a family’s life through murder should be something worse than a mere death...I say mandatory experimental research with unproven drugs, say, along the lines of cancer exploration, or failing that, hard labor in the worst of conditions, those necessary jobs that truly nobody else other than illegals would do, all with minimal nutrition provisions...


19 posted on 01/28/2014 7:18:28 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Salvavida
2 appeals or 3 years, whichever comes first.

Ever wonder why DNA evidence can be used to free people on ‘death row’ ,but is conversely never good enough to execute someone within the same time period someone can be freed after said DNA evidence is used?

20 posted on 01/28/2014 7:30:04 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: IrishBrigade

String ‘em up just far enough so the condemned is dancing lightly on his tippy-toes. Then be sure you have a corner on popcorn sales. Sales should be brisk.


21 posted on 01/28/2014 7:32:25 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: shankbear
Hanging. Snap. Over.

Big plus, the rope can be used more than once.

22 posted on 01/28/2014 7:41:21 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Most states abandoned those execution methods more than a generation ago in a bid to make capital punishment more palatable to the public and to a judicial system worried about inflicting cruel and unusual punishments that violate the Constitution.

it needs to be stressed, again and again, that the constitution does not proscribe cruel punishments, nor does it ban unusual punishments. The constitution bans cruel and unusual punishments. You could burn convicted murderers at the stake in the public square and not violate the plain meaning of the Constitution, as long as you burned all convicted murderers at the stake in the public square.

23 posted on 01/28/2014 7:42:04 AM PST by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
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To: Salvavida

For all capital cases where the death penalty is being sought, an appeals court judge should sit in the trial while it’s being conducted... After the trial is over, both sides have 90 days to appeal... If the defense can’t make their case in 90 days, then on the 91st day the convicted is put to death...

I’m a fan of “old sparky”...


24 posted on 01/28/2014 7:45:06 AM PST by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
There will just be no way to enforce it.

Do like the old Soviet Union in Lubyanka (sp?). While condemned is being taken to or from his cell, executioner steps up behind him, pistol to skull. BOOM! Done! Cleanup in hall 3...

25 posted on 01/28/2014 12:02:26 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: bfh333
In most cases, it's the appeals court that cannot hear the case in time. There would have to be time constraints on both sides. I like your 90 day suggestion. I would add on the back end, that the entire appeals process must be concluded 6 months after a defense appeal is filed. Hire more appeals judges: and they must be ELECTED. The Supreme Court shouldn't hear or have jurisdiction on single cases decided in the state.

I'm good with sparky, but electricity cost money. Rope is cheap, reusable, and works wonders for spinal realignment.

26 posted on 01/28/2014 12:49:18 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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