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LESSON OF ATLANTA SNOWJAM 2014!
Vanity | 1/29/2014 | Dick Bachert

Posted on 01/29/2014 1:46:20 PM PST by Dick Bachert

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To: Buckeye McFrog
Hard to understand how they can be THIS totally unprepared.

We get a serious snow/ice storm that lasts two days every seven to ten years. Those tend to pop up expectantly. Otherwise, the winters are very tame. It would be foolish to invest a lot of money in road clearing machinery, snow tires/chains for use just two days every ten years.

It makes more sense to stay put in the office or stay at home when one knows it is coming. Also, it is hard to expect Southern drivers to become accustomed to such driving conditions with such infrequent foul weather. Those of use who are "imports" don't spin our tires or slam on the brakes like most people in these parts.

21 posted on 01/29/2014 3:28:25 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Yup, my point exactly!


22 posted on 01/29/2014 3:30:39 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Dick Bachert

Sales of Evil 4x4 SUV’s and Subaru’s are going to SOAR now.

This generation has had to lean, the hard way, the lesson that we learned in the winters of 78,79, and 81.

No matter how politically-correct that little hybrid sh*tbox you are driving is, is that political correctness worth killing you or your family over?


23 posted on 01/29/2014 3:39:21 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Paladin2

>> “Carry chains in your 4x4?” <<

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All four of our vehicles are 4x4s and we have tire chains and tow chains in all of them from October to the end of June.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 3:44:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: tcrlaf

Forget the Subarus!

They don’t have enough torque to crawl over an extension cord.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 3:45:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Self reliance is a character builder (for the kidz).

A day's rations would be a helper in the SE in these daze of Global Warming. ;-)

26 posted on 01/29/2014 3:47:13 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: discostu
Get your

out of the Man Cave to be able to make a beer run.

27 posted on 01/29/2014 3:50:37 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Dick Bachert

I never cease to be amazed at how many government employees at every level are referred to as non-essential when it comes to not reporting for work for any number of reasons. If they are non-essential, why are they even on the payroll?

OTOH I’ve never understood why any company in the service industry thinks employees have to commute to an expensive office building to work every day. Call centers for every business could easily be located totally in the U.S. and allow the employees to have a computer and work from home.


28 posted on 01/29/2014 3:51:07 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Not to call them industrious, but the folks handing out building permits, collecting utility bills etc can certainly take a day off but are required in some form eventually.


29 posted on 01/29/2014 3:53:19 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Paladin2

We have freeze dried meals, water and sterno in all of the vehicles, along with ponchos, space blankets, lighters, and lots of paracord.


30 posted on 01/29/2014 3:57:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Beat me to it.


31 posted on 01/29/2014 4:03:01 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Dick Bachert

Of course there is always personal responsibility.... My daughter and her husband both took the day off. The weather was in fast and furious here in the north and neither one of them wanted to try and navigate what they knew would be out there.

Because we Georgians were warned well ahead of time, each of us could have made different choices


32 posted on 01/29/2014 4:04:46 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Paladin2

that’s great IF you have a four wheel drive vehicle and a place to buy chains.

Most places don’t sell chains or even snow ropes. And in the metro area not that many people drive 4 wheel drive vehicles.


33 posted on 01/29/2014 4:06:15 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Let’s see..... people here do not know how to drive on these roads under black ice conditions; no one has snow tires on their cars because no one does ( Saturday it will be 60); It is not as if NYC or other cities do all that well under similar conditions, in fact the cities in the northeast have waaaay more equipment and really don’t do as well


34 posted on 01/29/2014 4:09:10 PM PST by Nifster
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; All

I think GDOT and generally every one did a good job. People went to work KNOWING that snow was coming and that temperatures would be in the teens after sun down. The city had their deicing trucks out and working.

What people forget is that sanding and deicing have to happen at a specific time in the storm. Too soon and it is all gone by the time temps drop; too late and it is ineffective; PLUS there is always the case where the stuff works and then temps drop again really fast and refreeze.

You exactly right when speaking of plowing equipment and deicers. The state has quadrupled the number of plows and increased the deicing trucks as well. They even found a new brine solution that helps break up the ice on the road way better.

I think the state was as prepared as they could possibly be. I have seen empty street shots of NYC when they get hit with snow. Denver is notorious for housing the snowplows in a location that no one can get to if there is a storm.

Come on folks how unreasonable can one be?


35 posted on 01/29/2014 4:16:26 PM PST by Nifster
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To: prof.h.mandingo

And since you didn’t ask... no one was injured or killed in the metro area. There was one death in Coweta county.

Though I agree that schools should have been closed. Many did but no all are


36 posted on 01/29/2014 4:18:59 PM PST by Nifster
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To: editor-surveyor

And you live in place that obviously needs them. You don’t live in Atlanta or even northern Georgia.

Snow tires can tear up the tarmac on most highways ( depending on the type of snow tire). Moreover it is hard on the tire to be driving in normal weather (temps 60 and above)....

I grew up in snow country and I know how to be prepared and stay safe. Now that I live in an area that only occasionally has snow it takes on a different meaning


37 posted on 01/29/2014 4:22:22 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Dick Bachert
All those empty bread & milk shelves !


oh ! the huge.manatee

38 posted on 01/29/2014 4:26:46 PM PST by tomkat ( -1 -2 -3 = #4)
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To: tcrlaf
"is that political correctness worth killing you or your family over?"

(Back in the day) After my wife and my very young son had to leave the road to avoid a head-on, they got an old skool (but new at the time) double solid axle 4x4 Suburban to use in the winter. Fortunately no further issues were encountered, but that sukker would get me to work even on the worst days (when the rest of the fam didn't need it 'cause they stayed at home).

39 posted on 01/29/2014 4:28:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nifster
"Moreover it is hard on the tire to be driving in normal weather (temps 60 and above)...."

Naw, I run new snow tires in the winter and then use the older ones in the summer as they make good rain tires.

Just now Blizzaks.

I even have qa set of studded snow tires for the sates where they are allowed. I just pull the studs from the worn tires to use them in the summer 'till they are done.

40 posted on 01/29/2014 4:31:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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