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To: cloudmountain

He has a tremendous amount of talent

I said this to my kids four years ago, his family( mother was cashing in, leaving him unsupervised and unable to choose friends wisely

I said, and they all said I was stupid, all talented musicians find their passion and improve on it at age 13.

I have many lists of them in my head. The smart ones, or the poor ones or the ones with loving mature humble parents are the ones who are lucky

He peaked too early.

His family is stupid and he has to pay the price ( unless the authorities continue to give into bribes and keep letting him go)

He is surrounded by greed and avarice, with no skills in choosing friends v enemies v frenemies.

His absent father and naive greedy mother are to blame

He needs help. And those who’ve collected millions from him are very busy

But to say he’s not talented no. That’s where this started


10 posted on 01/29/2014 8:15:52 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Family? He was raised by a single mother. Pattie Mallette had him when she was only 17 too.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 8:19:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: stanne
His absent father and naive greedy mother are to blame.

I agree with your carefully thought out presentation.

I saw the incredible media frenzy as depicted on Canadian television. The pushing, the reaching, the shoving, the cameras. I said to my liberal wife (bless her) "has the world gone mad?"

Well I do know it hasn't. I also opined that hundreds of crazy 19 year olds are doing hundreds of crazy things. Hopefully it will all blow over. I shake my head and can only curse the damned media.

Excuse the ramble.

20 posted on 01/29/2014 8:25:02 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: stanne
He has a tremendous amount of talent
If you say so. I haven't listened to him. I can't even look at him. It's like looking at a baby.

I said this to my kids four years ago, his family( mother was cashing in, leaving him unsupervised and unable to choose friends wisely
I said, and they all said I was stupid, all talented musicians find their passion and improve on it at age 13.
I have many lists of them in my head. The smart ones, or the poor ones or the ones with loving mature humble parents are the ones who are lucky
He peaked too early.

Peaking early is the STORY of Hollywood children and teenagers...and their mothers who SELL THEM DOWN THE RIVER...and I hope they burn in H - e - double hockey sticks.

His family is stupid and he has to pay the price ( unless the authorities continue to give into bribes and keep letting him go)
He is 19 years old so he is, theoretically, a man and has to stand on his own. My opinion: he is doomed. But then, I've seen that same story from all the way back to Natalie Wood. Sad story, but they DO have the money to help with the sadness.

He is surrounded by greed and avarice, with no skills in choosing friends v enemies v frenemies.
His absent father and naive greedy mother are to blame
He needs help. And those who’ve collected millions from him are very busy.

Nothing new here. Same story with SO many of the people who go to Hollywood. He CAN opt out if he wants. He's a big boy and can make his own choices.

But to say he’s not talented no. That’s where this started.
My idea of talent: CLASSICAL guitarists.
Here's a list of 20th century geniuses.
Laurindo Almeida (1917–1995)(Brasil)
María Luisa Anido (1907–1996) (Argentina, Spain)
Agustín Pío Barrios (1885–1944) (Paraguay)
Abel Carlevaro (1916–2001) (Uruguay)
Leif Christensen 1950–1988
Alirio Díaz (b. 1923) (Venezuela)
Sila Godoy (b. 1919)
Alexandre Lagoya (1929–1999) (France)
Antonio Lauro (1917–1986) (Venezuela)
Miguel Llobet (1878–1938)
Sergei Orekhov (1935–1998)
Emilio Pujol (1886–1980) (Spain)
Ida Presti (1924–1967)
Celedonio Romero (1913–1996) (Spain)
Regino Sainz de la Maza (1896–1981) (Spain)
**Andrés Segovia (1893–1987) (Spain)
José Tomás (1934–2001) (Spain)
**Narciso Yepes (1927–1997) (Spain)
Frantz Casseus (1915-1993) (Haiti)
**I have those records somewhere.

I also LOVE classical piano. I inherited that from my father and one of his sisters.

24 posted on 01/29/2014 8:33:38 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: stanne
His absent father and naive greedy mother are to blame

His father reappeared once he got rich. They are now drinking buddies.

26 posted on 01/29/2014 8:34:42 PM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: stanne

Welcome to what WAS Micheal Jackson’s world.
Surrounded by predators.


35 posted on 01/29/2014 8:43:25 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: stanne

Bieber is the sad result of a broken music industry. The “fabricate a ‘Frankenstein monster’-like «musician» using marketing data” method touched bottom, and the executives were left to do the only “reasonable” thing: look for some youtube kid, pump him silly with advertising money and hope for the best. Yes, he sort of has a modicum of talent. But he’s no wonder kid. Just a lucky boy on the right (wrong?) place.


70 posted on 01/29/2014 10:24:48 PM PST by Moose Burger
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To: stanne
He has a tremendous amount of talent....

I happen to agree with you. Beiber has more talent than 99% of kids his age. It's hard to feel sorry for a multi millionaire but I kinda' do, because he seems to be going down the wrong track. That is where the entertainment industry leads if you don't have good guidance and you're too young to handle it. Hopefully he can snap out of it before it's too late and still have a long career. He's surrounded by way too many leeches.

I happen to be a lifelong musician and singer myself so I'm talking from a bit of experience.

75 posted on 01/29/2014 11:58:54 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: stanne

“He has a tremendous amount of talent”

There are more with more talent. Proves it is not what you know but who you blow in show biz. He was created as a teen idol because we was a skinny pansy boy they could dress up.


93 posted on 01/30/2014 5:38:02 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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