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Venezuela And Argentina: The Party Is Over
http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21595471-latin-americas-weakest-economies-are-reaching-breaking-point-party-over ^

Posted on 01/31/2014 1:18:12 PM PST by blam

Venezuela And Argentina: The Party Is Over

Latin America’s weakest economies are reaching breaking-point

The Economist
Feb 1st 2014

WHEN the euro crisis was at its height it became commonplace for struggling European economies to insist that they were not outliers like Greece. Whatever their woes, they declared, Greece’s were in a class of their own. In Latin America, by contrast, the unwanted title of outlier has two contenders: Argentina and Venezuela.

Both have been living high on the hog for years, blithely dishing out the proceeds of an unrepeatable commodities boom (oil in Venezuela; soya in Argentina). Both have been using a mix of central-bank interventions and administrative controls to keep overvalued exchange rates from falling and inflation from rising. Both now face a come-uppance.

High inflation is a shared problem. Argentina’s rate, propelled higher by loose monetary and fiscal policies, is unofficially put at 28%. Argentina’s official exchange rate is overvalued as a result, fetching 70% more dollars per peso than the informal “blue” rate in mid-January. Venezuela’s prices are rising faster still. Last year, during an awkward political transition after the death of Hugo Chávez to the presidency of Nicolás Maduro, the Central Bank stepped up money-printing to finance public spending, pushing inflation to 56.2%. A dollar fetches 75-80 bolívares on the black market, up to seven times the official rate.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: argentina; collapse; currency; inflation; moneym; venezeula
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'Dandy' Don Meredith:

Turn Out The Lights

1 posted on 01/31/2014 1:18:12 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

What do both of these countries have in common: Socialist/Marxism.


2 posted on 01/31/2014 1:20:57 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: blam

“...using a mix of central-bank interventions and administrative controls...stepped up money-printing to finance public spending...”

Gee, sounds familiar.


3 posted on 01/31/2014 1:22:26 PM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: JSDude1

The sad thing is that the United States has emulated BOTH Venezuela AND Argentina. I see a bad moon arisin....


4 posted on 01/31/2014 1:22:43 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

I see the same government capital controls, “one-time” taxes, forced property sales, and outright confiscation coming to the USA.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 2:12:03 PM PST by PGR88
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To: blam

En Argentina y Venezuela la mierda golpea el ventilador!


6 posted on 01/31/2014 2:15:05 PM PST by vette6387
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To: blam

Don’t Cry For Me Argentuna!


7 posted on 01/31/2014 2:16:26 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: blam; Kartographer

socialism fails again. Someday maybe the right people will make it work.

(It won’t ever happen)


8 posted on 01/31/2014 2:22:41 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: blam

How many times now has Argentina been taught but apparently not learned this some lesson about socialism - fascism - Marxism? Venezuela has lived in a failed economy/society for several years but Hugo is the secular saint?

We can’t talk as we are circling the drain ourselves and should but don’t know better.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 2:29:42 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: blam

They’ll be fine. All they need is more government involvement.


10 posted on 01/31/2014 2:33:02 PM PST by lurk
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To: blam
and to address the issues in Argentina, Christina goes to Cuba!!

I also see Maduro in Cuba. He is probably making sure one of his Generales isn't promising more oil to Castro in exchange all the Cuban officers embedded in Venezuela's military supporting a coup.

11 posted on 01/31/2014 3:02:31 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: blam
What I find interesting is that right across the border in Chile, THAT country will do okay, because they're in many ways the opposite of Argentina.
12 posted on 01/31/2014 3:33:06 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: vette6387
"For those that do not speak Spanish, what he said was "When the shit hits the fan."

I lived in Venezuala for several years. Most of them are good people. It is sad,

13 posted on 01/31/2014 3:38:39 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!!!!)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Prepares’ PING!!


14 posted on 01/31/2014 4:20:50 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GeronL
What's that definition of insanity? Trying the same thing, repeatedly, with the exact same results?

Oh...this time it'll be different!

15 posted on 01/31/2014 4:23:44 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: fhayek
I see a bad moon arisin....

It can't be that bad. At least bankers aren't committing suicide in alarming numbers.... oh... wait...

/johnny

16 posted on 01/31/2014 4:23:50 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jane Long

Yep, we just need new people in charge, Comrade. lol


17 posted on 01/31/2014 4:25:50 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: JRandomFreeper; fhayek
"It can't be that bad. At least bankers aren't committing suicide in alarming numbers.... oh... wait..."

(Ahem)

Why Are London Banking Executives Killing Themselves?

18 posted on 01/31/2014 4:27:21 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
There was another one, in the States.

/johnny

19 posted on 01/31/2014 4:30:12 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam
Celente Warns Of Coming Riots: “The Collapse Is Engulfing The World”
20 posted on 01/31/2014 4:34:55 PM PST by blam
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