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Sen. Rand Paul: Trust but verify on immigration reform - [02/08/2013]
washington Times ^ | 02/08/2013 | Senator Rand Paul

Posted on 02/01/2014 6:40:22 AM PST by SoConPubbie

I am in favor of immigration reform. I am also wary of reforms granted now for a promise of border security later. In 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a deal that made just such a promise, yet we are still waiting for the border security that never came. Conservatives are also still waiting for the promised three dollars in spending cuts for every dollar in tax hikes. . . . .

Border Security, including drones, satellite, and physical barriers, vigilant deportation of criminals and increased patrols would begin immediately and be assessed at the end of one year by an investigator general from the General Accountability Office. Most importantly, and in contrast with any other plan out there, my plan will insist that report be presented to Congress for a vote. If, and only if Congress agreed that border security was progressing, then more reforms would ensue. If we can’t secure our border, and if we cannot prove we can modernize our system of issuing and tracking visas, we cannot take on the task of adding more people to our system.

After ensuring border security, then I would normalize the status of the 11 million undocumented citizens so they can join the workforce and pay taxes. I would normalize them at a rate of about 2 million per year. I would start with Dream Act kids, children brought here illegally as minors. Normalization would get them a temporary Visa but would not put them ahead of anyone already waiting to enter the country. These undocumented persons would now be documented but they would still have to wait in line like everyone else. But their path to permanent legal status would be no faster than those currently waiting in line.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; rand; randpaul
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To: SoConPubbie

FIRE the stupid idiot in 2014. Make sure if you are a Tennessean, to VOTE out Sen Lamar Alexander 73 year old career RINO. Vote State Rep Joe Carr, U can check his state voting record out.


21 posted on 02/01/2014 7:54:50 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: SoConPubbie
In the real world, this slogan/motto is needed.


22 posted on 02/01/2014 7:57:15 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7/365! ObamaCare will fail 24/7/365!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Two words: Hell, NO!


23 posted on 02/01/2014 7:58:46 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SoConPubbie; All

This is still Amnesty

Doing anything other than Deporting illegal aliens is Amnesty.....are people that easily fooled by Randmesty Paul

Our current law says deport illegal aliens....not doing so is amnesty.


24 posted on 02/01/2014 8:02:58 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: SoConPubbie

No amnesty of any kind
No more anchor babies
Strict screening for public benefits (no illegals to recive them)
Cut off all magnets


25 posted on 02/01/2014 8:17:44 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: SoConPubbie

By way of border enforcement ...

Under Article I, Section 8, when Congress calls forth the militia to repel invasions, is a Presidential signature required? There would be issues with the “Commander in Chief” thing, of course, but if Congress called forth the militia to defend against the (mostly) unarmed invasion that our southern states are now enduring, how could the President refuse?

Heck, I’d be happy to see Jan Brewer go it alone and call out her own militia (as in the “unorganized” militia versus the captive National Guard), then dare Washington to refuse to pay for it!

For definitive border security, we need boots on the ground. Let’s try it!


26 posted on 02/01/2014 8:29:21 AM PST by DNME (Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: All
McCain TV Ad: "Complete The Danged Fence"
27 posted on 02/01/2014 8:31:56 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: grania
I don't agree with this. But I really believe that about the only chance we have of taking the US back is a Cruz/RandPaul ticket.

Cruz has the same position on immigration as Paul: http://therightscoop.com/sen-ted-cruz-also-supports-temporary-legalization-status-in-the-immigration-bill/

"Sen. Ted Cruz introduced an amendment to the current immigration bill back in May that would have removed the path to citizenship from the bill completely. But it also supported the same temporary legal status (RPI status) that is already in the bill that Sen. Marco Rubio has been discussing. And even more than that, it also supported permanent legal residency status as well.

"Now if you happen to believe that temp legal status is amnesty, as some of you have suggested, then I guess that means Ted Cruz supports amnesty."

28 posted on 02/01/2014 8:49:29 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Normalization would get them a temporary Visa but would not put them ahead of anyone already waiting to enter the country. These undocumented persons would now be documented but they would still have to wait in line like everyone else.”

That makes no sense. If they are here, by definition they have already cut in line ahead of “everyone else”.


29 posted on 02/01/2014 9:00:33 AM PST by Hugin
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To: SoConPubbie

FURP!! NO AMNESTY!!


30 posted on 02/01/2014 9:14:59 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SoConPubbie
Amnesty is treason.

It is the end of the United States in favor of a defacto merged state with Mexico.

The massive population transfer it will legalize and expand through family chain migration, along with the clarion signal that the USA will NEVER again enforce immigration law, will essentially erase our borders.

It is treason. Its advocates and agents betray our homeland.

31 posted on 02/01/2014 9:41:33 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Sirius Lee

ENOUGH with these ‘comprehensive’. It’s just an easy way to water down the individual parts to make the whole thing meaningless.

Pass the damn thing piece-meal, on a contingent that the next piece cannot be brought up to vote until the prior is settled upon (IE: can’t skip to ‘amnesty’ until the border bill is passed)


32 posted on 02/01/2014 10:18:37 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand’s gone native in DC. He thinks his buddies at the US Chamber of Croooks will buy him the White Hut for his trouble.

Rube.


33 posted on 02/01/2014 10:52:20 AM PST by CowboyJay (Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
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To: SoConPubbie; Sirius Lee
Every politician promises us that we'll be given future border enforcement in "exchange" for granting amnesty (under another name) to the 12 million or so illegals who are already here.

My question is, why are we allowing the enforcement of existing border laws to be held hostage in this way? Why is it that amnesty for illegals inevitably piggy backs upon (empty) promises for future enforcement? And why are we supposed to believe that Washington will be any more serious about enforcing the border laws in the future than they have been in the past?

Rand Paul is proving to be a major disappointment on this issue, as is most of the GOP. They more or less offer the same thing as Obama, except for some empty lip service about improving surveillance at the border in the future.

34 posted on 02/09/2014 10:44:32 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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