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Mark Zuckerberg Affiliated Group Blast Airwaves to Back House GOP on Immigration
National Journal ^ | January 31, 2014 | Elahe Izadi

Posted on 02/01/2014 7:27:59 AM PST by xzins

The $750,000 worth of television ads say "House Republicans want to fix the immigration problem."

House Republicans looking to garner support for leadership's immigration-reform principles are about to get a little help from a group with ties to Mark Zuckerberg.

Americans for a Conservative Direction is the GOP arm of pro-immigration reform organization FWD.us, which is backed by the Facebook chief executive. And they will be airing roughly $750,000 worth of television and radio ads across the country, according to a source with knowledge of the ad buy.

The ads, which will air for 10 days on radio and cable television, describe the drafted principles unveiled to the Republican Conference during their retreat as a "conservative solution." Highlighted elements include border security and conducting background checks on those in the United States illegally. The announcer states the proposal is not amnesty. Children are shown while the announcer says the plan offers "a chance at the American Dream for those brought here as children."

"Step by step, House Republicans want to fix the immigration problem, which will strengthen our economy," the ad declares.

The next few weeks will be crucial in the immigration-reform debate, as members of the GOP caucus begin staking out their positions on the principles and as leadership figures out where a bulk of the lawmakers are in terms of support. Additionally, FWD.us is looking to sway opinon on the Hill with a memo attempting to discredit some groups opposed to reform as "anti-immigrant."


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I just saw their ad on TV this morning and was so disappointed. They're actually jumping off the cliff.

They say 1. secure borders, 2. criminal background check, 3. pay fines, taxes,

They say "no amnesty" and then they say that children brought by parents are home free.

They don't deal with the aftermath of "Pay Fines, Taxes". I assume since deportation isn't mentioned, that these illegals get some kind of legal status in the US. As one of our FR lawyers, p-Marlowe, pointed out recently, that will be challenged in court, and some justice will say that it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship.

Step 4: Citizenship by judicial fiat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l9XRF_kqIN4

1 posted on 02/01/2014 7:27:59 AM PST by xzins
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Video link to ad below:

I just saw their ad on TV this morning and was so disappointed. They're actually jumping off the cliff.

They say 1. secure borders, 2. criminal background check, 3. pay fines, taxes,

They say "no amnesty" and then they say that children brought by parents are home free.

They don't deal with the aftermath of "Pay Fines, Taxes". I assume since deportation isn't mentioned, that these illegals get some kind of legal status in the US. As one of our FR lawyers, p-Marlowe, pointed out recently, that will be challenged in court, and some justice will say that it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship.

Step 4: Citizenship by judicial fiat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l9XRF_kqIN4

2 posted on 02/01/2014 7:28:24 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Well, based on his little “windfall” profit($3.2 Bil) this week, at least he’s able to put his money to “good” use eh? How come we never hear anything positive about some gazillionaire conservative doing things to fight the radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbags? It’s always “evil Koch Bros war on the poor.”


3 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:32 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: xzins; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

the immigration problem
___________________________________

what immigration problem ???

There is no immigration problem...

Immigrants have no problem immigrating...

there is however a big problem with illegal aliens staying here in the US ...

when are they going to be deported ???


4 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:50 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: xzins

Zuckerburg is a flaming leftist. There is NOTHING conservative about this group. Rush and Hannity will take their money but they do not endorse the Zuckerburg message.


5 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:53 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Watch the video.

No way they could say “House Gop” and not have the approval of the House GOP.


6 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:00 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

This is the same propaganda Rubio was pitching for Suckerberg after the Senate passed its amnesty bill.

The enemy is exposing itself pretty clearly.


7 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:14 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: xzins
My proposal for fixing the illegal immigration problem:

Step 1 - Enfore the law.

Step 2 - Repeat step 1 as necessary.

8 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:47 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: xzins

The “problem” exists because for the last 30 years the politicians looked the other way and allowed it to grow.

Imagine if the IRS just stopped auditing rich folks and enforcing any tax law and then a few years down the road we threw our hands up in the air and said, “well... nothing we can do now. That money has moved around so much there’s no way we’ll ever really be able to account for it. Guess we’ll just have to reform our tax laws and legalize it.”

If we stopped enforcing building codes or any contract law. How about we stop enforcing gun laws and let anyone who wants a gun have one no matter if they legally can or not? It’d be nuts and it’d create a complete mess.


9 posted on 02/01/2014 7:36:34 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: xzins
Why do I not trust Mark Zuckerberg's intentions.

The sad part is, whatever Congress passes, Preezy Pajama Boy will gut and change at will.

He'll just ignore Steps 1,2, and 3 and write in Step 4: Register as DemocRATS.

10 posted on 02/01/2014 7:38:20 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

“Zuckerburg is a flaming leftist.”

Absolutely - Zuckerburg is no conservative, and he has no interest in any “conservative direction”.

If he’s funding “Americans for a Conservative Direction”, that group is lying about its name. And if they’re willing to lie about their name, you can be damn sure they’re willing to lie about their message.


11 posted on 02/01/2014 7:43:14 AM PST by Stosh
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To: xzins

They created this mess with the intent on “fixing” it by making the invaders legal Americans that can vote. If the GOP Liberals push this thru its the end of the Republican party on a National scale. All this just so some big money folks can keep labor costs down.
Great job G.O.P. you are presiding over your own funeral.


12 posted on 02/01/2014 7:46:29 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and Improved Redneck!)
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To: Stosh

Americans for Conservative Direction: from their website

_______________________________________________________

Our Board

Haley Barbour

Former Governor Haley Barbour served as the 62nd governor of Mississippi from 2004 to 2012 and served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee in the mid ‘90s.

Sally Bradshaw

Sally Bradshaw worked as former Florida Governor Jeb Bush’s Chief of Staff from 1999-2001, and served as a Co-Chair of the Republican National Committee’s Growth and Opportunity Project.

Joel Kaplan

Joel Kaplan is currently Vice President of US Public Policy at Facebook. Joel also served as Deputy Chief of Staff to former President George W. Bush.

Dan Senor

Dan Senor is former chief advisor to Representative Paul Ryan on the Romney-Ryan 2012 campaign

Rob Jesmer

Rob Jesmer worked as the former Executive Director at the National Republican Senatorial Committee from 2008 – 2012.



13 posted on 02/01/2014 7:51:36 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

14 posted on 02/01/2014 7:55:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

They’re all traitors and the lackeys of international corporatists


15 posted on 02/01/2014 7:59:29 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship

It's what Zuckerberg and his band of narcisstic band want. Want they want is wage slaves, redefined for the 21st century. Even the indentured servants of old got to become citizens when their contracts were fullfilled. Another difference is that the indentured servants were the responsibility of their employers....for food, housing, medical, etc. They were treated poorly, granted, but there was something at the end of the road.

These cheap labor pimps are despicable. They'll destroy the US to keep their profits up. The only answer is to send home all invaders permanently and make it impossible to hire them now or in the future.

16 posted on 02/01/2014 7:59:44 AM PST by grania
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To: Stosh

Every time you turn around someone is coming out with a new group with the word “conservative” in it. I am so sick of liars.


17 posted on 02/01/2014 8:00:43 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: grania

They will execute a pattern:

1. legalize the illegals who are working jobs being paid underneath the table

2. They will become extremely low wage legal workers driving the cost of wages down

3. The border security will not happen, so new illegals will flood the beneath the table market.

4. All of these will vote socialist.

5. Eventually we will be a nation of serfs owned by a wealthy elite, a new aristocracy.


18 posted on 02/01/2014 8:03:13 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: grania
it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship

We agree which is why we should NOT keep them here. They need to go home and apply for a work permit or visa the legal way.

19 posted on 02/01/2014 8:03:19 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Rubio fell for this trap and ended his dream of the Presidency.


20 posted on 02/01/2014 8:04:22 AM PST by Zathras
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To: xzins
"Step by step, House Republicans want to fix the immigration problem, which will strengthen our economy," the ad declares.

The GOP thinks that slave labor and suppressed wages strengthen the economy.

21 posted on 02/01/2014 8:06:00 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

No matter how much the enemy exposes itself, the American people remain permanently uninformed and unable to act.


22 posted on 02/01/2014 8:15:42 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: xzins
Eventually we will be a nation of serfs owned by a wealthy elite, a new aristocracy

That's what the Clintons, Cornyns, Bushes, Obamas, Grahams, McCains, McConnells, Boehners, all have in mind, but their supporters are too uninformed to know.

23 posted on 02/01/2014 8:17:38 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: xzins

0bama will only enforce and uphold the parts of the law that he likes. There should be no more legislation until 0bama is gone.
0bama is the illegal alien and it is he that should be deported.


24 posted on 02/01/2014 8:29:42 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: xzins

If you guys wouldnt get your pants all in a knot, we can use the thing to our advantage. Number 1. Secure the borders. That alone is an issue I am sure everyone can get on with. That alone will stall the rest. Get that part passed with the stipulation that before anything else can be passed, the borders must be secure and PROVEN that they are secure.

It would take years to prove it. Then the states and only the states must get on with kicking out those here illegally. Ignore the feds and their candy rulings. Just do it.


25 posted on 02/01/2014 8:39:27 AM PST by crz
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To: xzins

Zuckerturd doesn’t care about the amnesty part of the bill. He really wants the H1B visa increase part so he can import 20,000 software code monkeys from India. He’ll pay them minimum wage. Follow the money.


26 posted on 02/01/2014 8:46:38 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: 50mm

Dumb question but wouldn’t it make more sense to just let them code in India and send it back and forth via the net?
When they come here they’re gonna see rich Democrats and want a raise.


27 posted on 02/01/2014 8:48:02 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

Since these people control the Fed, they know they can deal with any raises by means of inflation.


28 posted on 02/01/2014 8:53:22 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Exactly. The whole logic here is if millions of people rob banks then they should all be given amnesty, it's ridiculous. The whole point of LEGAL immigration is for protection otherwise you get all kinds of people running amok in society such as killers, rapists, robbers, people with disease etc etc which is exactly what is happening and why there is such a huge list of American CITIZENS killed by illegals. So to me any politician who supports bypassing LEGAL immigration is flat out committing treason. They are willfully and knowingly putting the lives of the American people at risk.

Isn't it amazing how nobody ever talks about the victims of illegal immigration ?

Memorial to the victims of illegal immigration

29 posted on 02/01/2014 8:55:44 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: crz

They will not handle this one issue at a time, like with controlling borders. It will be a “comprehensive” law.

The kind that allow presidents (apparently) to pick and choose the parts they like.


30 posted on 02/01/2014 8:58:13 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Ohio Jobs & Justice PAC

VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

MEMORIAL

In honor of the thousands of American citizens  killed each year by Illegal Aliens. 

Deaths that could have been prevented if Congress and the President would have secured our border and enforced existing U.S. immigration laws.

~ (Please scroll down) ~

List of Victims

 

Lauren Bump, 24

Daughter, student, friend

Allegedly murdered by

Christian Bautista, 29

Christian Bautista, an  illegal alien has been arrested for the brutal stabbing murder of 24-year-old Lauren Bump.   Bump's body was found in a pool of blood on a trail in the O.P. Schnabel Park in San Antonio, Texas.

Authorities believe that Bautista stabbed Ms. Bump to death.

Bautista reportedly had several prior arrests dating back to 2005.  He was recently released from a Huntsville prison after serving 6 years for aggravated robbery. 

Ms. Bump was a graduate student at the Harding University's Physicians' Assistant program.  Friends described her as a happy and loving person.  

OJJPAC note:  Due to the Obama administration's failure to deport criminal illegal aliens, another American has been murdered.  The Obama administration's outrageous response is to expend scarce federal resources to sue Arizona and other states attempting to protect their citizens like Lauren Bump.  Our sympathies to the Bump family.

Sources: Family celebrates life of San Antonio park stabbing victim Lauren Bump, By April Molina, KSAT.com 1-9-14; Lauren Bump remembered in Harding University memorial, THV11.com, 1-12-14

 

http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp


31 posted on 02/01/2014 9:03:54 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: nascarnation

My company has worked with Indian sweatshops who provide engineering services . There are many problems associated with this including the money paid to the sweatshop middlemen, the time difference, the lack of transparency, corruption, theft of intellectual property and not having hire/fire control over employees. Basically, working with Indian companies sucks. All that goes away with the H1B visa increases.


32 posted on 02/01/2014 9:04:47 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Republicans should just keep hammering seal the border first and they will sign onto amnesty.

Democrats won’t allow that to happen and Republicans can run on that.


33 posted on 02/01/2014 9:05:28 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That’s powerful.

Imagine a demonstration in front of Facebook with every one of those posters as a sign.

Search for Zach Thurber as well. A 3 year old boy in Utah who was killed by a drunk illegal just a few weeks ago. Horrifying and enraging all at once.


34 posted on 02/01/2014 9:06:23 AM PST by Regulator
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To: rktman

Neither the Republicans or Democrats care about stopping third-worlders from crossing the border. The Democrats see fresh meat for them to buy votes with via government handouts. The Republicans are getting big bucks from corporations that want them here to drive down wages on jobs they couldn’t send overseas.

There are a few Republicans who want to stop this, like Sen. Jeff Sessions, but most simply don’t have any interest in doing anything about it.

Neither party cares about what flooding the country with tens of millions of people who care nothing about our history, culture, or language. They don’t care how much it destroys our way of life. All the Republicans care about is maintaining their positions, and all the perks that come with it. The Democrats want the same, but also to usher in a new socialist America where they get to decide where every dollar goes.

What little we have left after “free-trade” flushed our jobs down the toilet will be taken away by hoards of people who care nothing about this country, and are actively working to turn it into the same third-world cesspools they escaped to get here.

You can’t vote your way out of this.


35 posted on 02/01/2014 9:23:12 AM PST by TheGipperWasRight
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To: xzins

Good summary...

If there is no deportation...there is Amnesty. Pretty basic


36 posted on 02/01/2014 9:25:13 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: SeminoleCounty

Amnesty equals open borders. Period.


37 posted on 02/01/2014 9:27:57 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: xzins
Did they remember to broadcast the ads in Spanish to the people who will never EVER vote for them?

...sorry. I forgot to use my inside voice.

38 posted on 02/01/2014 9:33:58 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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To: TheGipperWasRight

Man, the good old day when someone immigrating here wanted to embrace being an American and actually meaning it. I sometimes wonder if the current legal immigrants really mean it when the take the oath. I’m sure some do. Others taking it because they “have” to.


39 posted on 02/01/2014 9:35:11 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Redcloak

Nope. German. They know most immigrants are highly educated German engineers fleeing outstanding beer and awesome automobiles.


40 posted on 02/01/2014 9:38:48 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins; All
The problem with the immigration campaign of Mr. Zuckerberg's associates is the following. PC interpretations of the Constitution's "uniform Rules of Naturalization" clause aside, Clause 4 of Section 8 of Article I, the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate immigration. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Thomas Jefferson's writings where Jefferson had clearly indicated, in terms of the 10th Amendment nonetheless, that Congress has no delegated powers to regulate immigration, immigration therefore a state power issue.
“4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force (emphasis added).” —Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

So what Mr. Zuckerberg's associates first need to do concerning their immigration campaign is the following. They need to inspire Congress to propose an appropriate immigration amendment to the Constitution to the states as required in general by the Constitution's Article V.

And then, if the states chose to ratify the amendment, Congress would have the specific power that it needs to regulate immigration, and Mr. Zuckerberg and his associates would be heros.

41 posted on 02/01/2014 9:46:02 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Bogey78O

“well... nothing we can do now. That money has moved around so much there’s no way we’ll ever really be able to account for it. Guess we’ll just have to reform our tax laws and legalize it.”

We already did that with marijuana and gay marriage.

We already do that when we tell the American Indians who sue for getting their lands back which were signed by the US govt to forget about it.

And we already do that to some extent with the IRS and tax returns filed more than 3 years ago.

And we already do that if you are owed money from more than 3 years ago on an IRS return, you are out of luck.

And we already do that with many works of art that the west appropriated from undeveloped countries when we tell them, we got it and you are not getting it back. Many many wester art galleries are being asked to give their stuff back to the original countries because they were mostly plundered by western treasure hunters.

So, it is likely the illegals who have been here a long time are saying “we’ve been here, and we are staying.”


42 posted on 02/01/2014 9:55:45 AM PST by staytrue
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To: xzins

Don’t mislead on that ad. It’s not endorsed by the House GOP. It’s an excellent ad and takes a lot of steam out of the Dem effort. You’re misrepresenting what it says.

Every FReeper should watch the ad for themselves. Let’ not lose our heads, that only helps the Left.


43 posted on 02/01/2014 10:04:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SharpRightTurn

No, it isn’t the same.


44 posted on 02/01/2014 10:04:45 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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45 posted on 02/01/2014 10:05:14 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: 1010RD

The ad is awful.

What does pay fines, taxes mean 1010? WHO pays fines taxes and why?

The ad doesn’t say, does it?


46 posted on 02/01/2014 10:06:22 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
FWD.us/ Americans for a Conservative Direction (cough, cough) founder Mark Zuckerberg...:

Appears in San Francisco's Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Pride Parade ...

Supports and Obama and says he's "chill" ...

Begs Obama to People's Raise Taxes ...

 Touts the leftist Center For American Progress ...

47 posted on 02/01/2014 10:08:14 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Thank you, Heart wrenching and cold hard facts. God have Mercy on America


48 posted on 02/01/2014 10:31:53 AM PST by easternsky
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To: xzins

Why do I have to obey the law?

Oh right, cause I’m white.


49 posted on 02/01/2014 11:15:27 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: xzins

No it doesn’t and it shouldn’t. It’s a very good ad.


50 posted on 02/01/2014 11:17:54 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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