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I just saw their ad on TV this morning and was so disappointed. They're actually jumping off the cliff.

They say 1. secure borders, 2. criminal background check, 3. pay fines, taxes,

They say "no amnesty" and then they say that children brought by parents are home free.

They don't deal with the aftermath of "Pay Fines, Taxes". I assume since deportation isn't mentioned, that these illegals get some kind of legal status in the US. As one of our FR lawyers, p-Marlowe, pointed out recently, that will be challenged in court, and some justice will say that it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship.

Step 4: Citizenship by judicial fiat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l9XRF_kqIN4

1 posted on 02/01/2014 7:27:59 AM PST by xzins
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Video link to ad below:

I just saw their ad on TV this morning and was so disappointed. They're actually jumping off the cliff.

They say 1. secure borders, 2. criminal background check, 3. pay fines, taxes,

They say "no amnesty" and then they say that children brought by parents are home free.

They don't deal with the aftermath of "Pay Fines, Taxes". I assume since deportation isn't mentioned, that these illegals get some kind of legal status in the US. As one of our FR lawyers, p-Marlowe, pointed out recently, that will be challenged in court, and some justice will say that it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship.

Step 4: Citizenship by judicial fiat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l9XRF_kqIN4

2 posted on 02/01/2014 7:28:24 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Well, based on his little “windfall” profit($3.2 Bil) this week, at least he’s able to put his money to “good” use eh? How come we never hear anything positive about some gazillionaire conservative doing things to fight the radical left wing extremist demokkkrat scumbags? It’s always “evil Koch Bros war on the poor.”


3 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:32 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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the immigration problem
___________________________________

what immigration problem ???

There is no immigration problem...

Immigrants have no problem immigrating...

there is however a big problem with illegal aliens staying here in the US ...

when are they going to be deported ???


4 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:50 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Zuckerburg is a flaming leftist. There is NOTHING conservative about this group. Rush and Hannity will take their money but they do not endorse the Zuckerburg message.


5 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:53 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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This is the same propaganda Rubio was pitching for Suckerberg after the Senate passed its amnesty bill.

The enemy is exposing itself pretty clearly.


7 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:14 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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My proposal for fixing the illegal immigration problem:

Step 1 - Enfore the law.

Step 2 - Repeat step 1 as necessary.

8 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:47 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The “problem” exists because for the last 30 years the politicians looked the other way and allowed it to grow.

Imagine if the IRS just stopped auditing rich folks and enforcing any tax law and then a few years down the road we threw our hands up in the air and said, “well... nothing we can do now. That money has moved around so much there’s no way we’ll ever really be able to account for it. Guess we’ll just have to reform our tax laws and legalize it.”

If we stopped enforcing building codes or any contract law. How about we stop enforcing gun laws and let anyone who wants a gun have one no matter if they legally can or not? It’d be nuts and it’d create a complete mess.


9 posted on 02/01/2014 7:36:34 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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Why do I not trust Mark Zuckerberg's intentions.

The sad part is, whatever Congress passes, Preezy Pajama Boy will gut and change at will.

He'll just ignore Steps 1,2, and 3 and write in Step 4: Register as DemocRATS.

10 posted on 02/01/2014 7:38:20 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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They created this mess with the intent on “fixing” it by making the invaders legal Americans that can vote. If the GOP Liberals push this thru its the end of the Republican party on a National scale. All this just so some big money folks can keep labor costs down.
Great job G.O.P. you are presiding over your own funeral.


12 posted on 02/01/2014 7:46:29 AM PST by southernerwithanattitude (New and Improved Redneck!)
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14 posted on 02/01/2014 7:55:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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it's slavery to keep people here just to work and without any opportunity to pursue citizenship

It's what Zuckerberg and his band of narcisstic band want. Want they want is wage slaves, redefined for the 21st century. Even the indentured servants of old got to become citizens when their contracts were fullfilled. Another difference is that the indentured servants were the responsibility of their employers....for food, housing, medical, etc. They were treated poorly, granted, but there was something at the end of the road.

These cheap labor pimps are despicable. They'll destroy the US to keep their profits up. The only answer is to send home all invaders permanently and make it impossible to hire them now or in the future.

16 posted on 02/01/2014 7:59:44 AM PST by grania
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"Step by step, House Republicans want to fix the immigration problem, which will strengthen our economy," the ad declares.

The GOP thinks that slave labor and suppressed wages strengthen the economy.

21 posted on 02/01/2014 8:06:00 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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0bama will only enforce and uphold the parts of the law that he likes. There should be no more legislation until 0bama is gone.
0bama is the illegal alien and it is he that should be deported.


24 posted on 02/01/2014 8:29:42 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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If you guys wouldnt get your pants all in a knot, we can use the thing to our advantage. Number 1. Secure the borders. That alone is an issue I am sure everyone can get on with. That alone will stall the rest. Get that part passed with the stipulation that before anything else can be passed, the borders must be secure and PROVEN that they are secure.

It would take years to prove it. Then the states and only the states must get on with kicking out those here illegally. Ignore the feds and their candy rulings. Just do it.


25 posted on 02/01/2014 8:39:27 AM PST by crz
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Zuckerturd doesn’t care about the amnesty part of the bill. He really wants the H1B visa increase part so he can import 20,000 software code monkeys from India. He’ll pay them minimum wage. Follow the money.


26 posted on 02/01/2014 8:46:38 AM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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Ohio Jobs & Justice PAC

VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

MEMORIAL

In honor of the thousands of American citizens  killed each year by Illegal Aliens. 

Deaths that could have been prevented if Congress and the President would have secured our border and enforced existing U.S. immigration laws.

~ (Please scroll down) ~

List of Victims

 

Lauren Bump, 24

Daughter, student, friend

Allegedly murdered by

Christian Bautista, 29

Christian Bautista, an  illegal alien has been arrested for the brutal stabbing murder of 24-year-old Lauren Bump.   Bump's body was found in a pool of blood on a trail in the O.P. Schnabel Park in San Antonio, Texas.

Authorities believe that Bautista stabbed Ms. Bump to death.

Bautista reportedly had several prior arrests dating back to 2005.  He was recently released from a Huntsville prison after serving 6 years for aggravated robbery. 

Ms. Bump was a graduate student at the Harding University's Physicians' Assistant program.  Friends described her as a happy and loving person.  

OJJPAC note:  Due to the Obama administration's failure to deport criminal illegal aliens, another American has been murdered.  The Obama administration's outrageous response is to expend scarce federal resources to sue Arizona and other states attempting to protect their citizens like Lauren Bump.  Our sympathies to the Bump family.

Sources: Family celebrates life of San Antonio park stabbing victim Lauren Bump, By April Molina, KSAT.com 1-9-14; Lauren Bump remembered in Harding University memorial, THV11.com, 1-12-14

 

http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp


31 posted on 02/01/2014 9:03:54 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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Good summary...

If there is no deportation...there is Amnesty. Pretty basic


36 posted on 02/01/2014 9:25:13 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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Did they remember to broadcast the ads in Spanish to the people who will never EVER vote for them?

...sorry. I forgot to use my inside voice.

38 posted on 02/01/2014 9:33:58 AM PST by Redcloak (Winter is coming.)
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The problem with the immigration campaign of Mr. Zuckerberg's associates is the following. PC interpretations of the Constitution's "uniform Rules of Naturalization" clause aside, Clause 4 of Section 8 of Article I, the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate immigration. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Thomas Jefferson's writings where Jefferson had clearly indicated, in terms of the 10th Amendment nonetheless, that Congress has no delegated powers to regulate immigration, immigration therefore a state power issue.
“4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force (emphasis added).” —Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

So what Mr. Zuckerberg's associates first need to do concerning their immigration campaign is the following. They need to inspire Congress to propose an appropriate immigration amendment to the Constitution to the states as required in general by the Constitution's Article V.

And then, if the states chose to ratify the amendment, Congress would have the specific power that it needs to regulate immigration, and Mr. Zuckerberg and his associates would be heros.

41 posted on 02/01/2014 9:46:02 AM PST by Amendment10
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Don’t mislead on that ad. It’s not endorsed by the House GOP. It’s an excellent ad and takes a lot of steam out of the Dem effort. You’re misrepresenting what it says.

Every FReeper should watch the ad for themselves. Let’ not lose our heads, that only helps the Left.


43 posted on 02/01/2014 10:04:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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