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Approving Keystone XL could be the biggest mistake of Obama's presidency
The Guardian ^ | January 31, 2014 | Michael Mann

Posted on 02/02/2014 6:33:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A State Department report fails to take into account the full climate impacts of Keystone XL. Who is Obama protecting?

I have made my position on the Keystone XL pipeline quite clear. Approving this hotly debated pipeline would send America down the wrong path. The science tells us now is the time that we should be throwing everything we have into creating a clean 21st century energy economy, not doubling down on the dirty energy that is imperiling our planet.

Now that the State Department has just released a final environmental impact report on Keystone XL, which appears to downplay the threat, and greatly increases the odds that the Obama administration will approve the project, I feel I must weigh in once again.

The simple fact is this: if Keystone XL is built, it will be easier to exploit fossil fuel reserves large enough to drastically destabilize the climate. A direct pipeline to refineries and global markets makes the business of polluting the atmosphere that much cheaper and easier.

The only truly accurate examination of the pipeline would include a full cost accounting its environmental footprint. It needs to take into account how much energy is consumed in refining and transporting the crude from oil sands. It must acknowledge that the pipeline would lower the cost and raise the convenience of extracting and exporting the incredibly carbon-intensive deposits of oil.

There are two main issues at stake in the Keystone XL decision: path dependency and US leadership. Path dependency is the term use to describe the fact that once a policy is put into place, it then constrains future options to those within that policy framework. More simply, the choices we make now determine what choices we get to make in the future....

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; energy; hockeystickmann; keystonexl; michaelmann; oil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Q: How do you tell if something REALLY is good for America?

A: 0bama rejects it!

21 posted on 02/02/2014 6:43:10 PM PST by Obama_Is_A_Feminist
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To: freebilly

Bingo. All the premises are wrong. They would like us to revert to a society where we go out looking for fuel to burn. These people are truly mind numbed robots following a pied piper they know nothing about.


22 posted on 02/02/2014 6:43:19 PM PST by Fungi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, Mr. Hockey Stick Mann..

(.. and I might add ‘shove it!’)


23 posted on 02/02/2014 6:45:11 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The "dirty energy that is imperiling the planet" is the low-grade coal burned every day by hundreds of millions of Chinese farmers to cook food.

Go ahead, Mann. Yell at Xi Jinping. Get him on board with your scam. :)

24 posted on 02/02/2014 6:46:15 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Fungi

Mind numbed? Not so sure, at this level. “Hateful of people” seems more like it.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 6:46:23 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: max americana

I;ve been saying it more than a THOUSAND times. Funny Freepers still use this source when during the 2003 Iraq war they pretty much cheered for every American soldier’s death and the editors even tried to “arrest” Dick Cheney in the UK.

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Agreed: Good points all!

However, unfortunately, some of us may just keep using it because — despite all this? — it can sometimes still be better than this Administration’s kept domestic press.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 6:46:38 PM PST by man_in_tx (Blowback (Faithfully farting twowards Mecca five times daily).)
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To: lepton
“The simple fact is this: if Keystone XL is built, it will be easier to exploit fossil fuel reserves...”

Well yeah, duh.

27 posted on 02/02/2014 6:47:06 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Guardian,What a surprise.
28 posted on 02/02/2014 6:47:46 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dr. Michael Mann just served up an enormous gift to his arch nemesis, Mark Steyn. His lawsuit against Steyn for defamation required the perpetuation of the myth that he is but a simple scientist toiling away in his laboratory trying to make sense out of the mystery of the universe.

He now demonstrates beyond doubt that he is a political activist jousting as a public figure in the public arena of politics and opinion. Such persons are not shielded from public criticism and ridicule as are ordinary citizens.

But, discovery in his case move ahead. Should prove interesting.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 6:48:03 PM PST by centurion316
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To: max americana

” The Guardian is a Marxist rag.””
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It is the New York Slimes of London.


30 posted on 02/02/2014 6:48:45 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Mann is Distinguished Professor of Meteorology at Penn State University.

That explains why he’s an idiot.


31 posted on 02/02/2014 6:50:51 PM PST by maddog55
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To: man_in_tx

Even better it is the Hockey Stick “Hide the Decline” buffoon Michael Mann.


32 posted on 02/02/2014 6:51:04 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: freebilly

We’re also seeing an oil rail car accident every few weeks, with one small town essentially blow up off the map.
That has an environmental impact, too. Pipelines are safer and more controlled. And world safety goes up if we aren’t giving Muslim extremists more money to support Jihad.


33 posted on 02/02/2014 6:53:10 PM PST by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
..if I only had a brain...
34 posted on 02/02/2014 6:53:23 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey Michael Mann, someone is knocking at your door...


35 posted on 02/02/2014 6:54:07 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Michael Mann the famous Hockey Stick fraud author.

Pray America is Waking


36 posted on 02/02/2014 6:55:00 PM PST by bray (http://www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: max americana
it's not used as a source so much as it's used to see what the enemy is thinking/their talking points are...
37 posted on 02/02/2014 6:57:06 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, it’s that guy! LOL, never mind, Obamacare will prove to be the biggest mistake of Obama’s presidency, unless it gets trumped by amnesty, the biggest mistake of Boehner’s speakership.


38 posted on 02/02/2014 6:57:50 PM PST by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The science tells us now is the time that we should be throwing everything we have into creating a clean 21st century energy economy”

The jokes make themselves.


39 posted on 02/02/2014 6:58:13 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sing “Hide the Decline” along with Michael Mann - http://youtu.be/WMqc7PCJ-nc


40 posted on 02/02/2014 6:58:39 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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