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1 posted on 02/07/2014 10:47:24 AM PST by null and void
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.45mm handgun ????


2 posted on 02/07/2014 10:50:04 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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More silly ammo that doesn’t work very well but is sure to be used by the anti-gun crowd.


3 posted on 02/07/2014 10:50:32 AM PST by ltc8k6
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“thereby increasing hit probability”

They should probably reword that to “increasing hit probability to a vital organ”, or something along those lines.

Neat, and scary.


4 posted on 02/07/2014 10:50:48 AM PST by Antihero101607
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great now they can kill your dog and the neighbors dogs on both sides with on one shot


5 posted on 02/07/2014 10:50:49 AM PST by bigheadfred
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I have some custom ammunition that has no fewer than NINE projectiles per shell. I can’t tell any more about it due to security considerations, but the box has “00” written on it.


7 posted on 02/07/2014 10:52:37 AM PST by Billthedrill
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“This controlled distance makes the bullet ideal for hostage rescue squads aiming to take down a perpetrator holding a hostage close, as seen in most cliche’d cop movies.”

If the frags spread 14” in 3 directions, isn’t that going to hit the hostage and the perp? Okay, I didn’t read the article, yet...


8 posted on 02/07/2014 10:53:05 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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I can recall someone (not me of course) purchasing 12 Ga “bolo rounds” at the Pomona, CA show. Lead balls connected with some sort of cable.

Also, .45 ammo with three stacked slugs in each, two discs and one 155 gr semiwad, for a total of 225 gr. It made 3 holes in the paper.

This round looks similar but the overall concept is much slicker. Wonder what it sounds like.


9 posted on 02/07/2014 10:54:16 AM PST by DBrow
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Increases hit probability....what a concept....

Maximum no. of persons shot....1....based on probability

13 posted on 02/07/2014 10:55:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Technically speaking, any type of ammunition is legal in the United States so long as it's not armor piercing, according to Earl Griffith, firearms technology expert for the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

I call BS. Even AP, APT, and APIT .50 BMG rounds are legal for purchase.
16 posted on 02/07/2014 10:57:01 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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Multiple projectile loads have been around for a long time and have never been very successful. Usually accuracy suffers greatly and the smaller projectiles have limited penetration ability especially through clothes, or windshields. Stick with modern single projectile expanding loads. They are more effective and cheaper as well.


17 posted on 02/07/2014 10:57:32 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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".45mm "

What???? Wait... 0.45mm... Bull#$%#!

I believe the author meant a segmented 45 caliber... but I could be wrong.

And this has been tried before.

he separation physics is very sensitive to things like minute differences in mass of the facets, wind, perturbations from the sabot separation process and for various other reasons doesn't work well in live fire.

20 posted on 02/07/2014 10:58:40 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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frankly, I think this type deadly technology needs a bit more regulation.

Right. I think users of the 1st amendment need a bit more regulation, frankly.
23 posted on 02/07/2014 11:00:33 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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45mm handgun

Nice. Although I'd rather get one of these 105mm handguns. Though ammo cost is a bitch.


24 posted on 02/07/2014 11:01:31 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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They have had soemthing similar for a long time. many law enforcement agencies have a 12 ga. round that fires two large ball bearings connected by a short cable. The reasoning for that round was yu could open a hole through a door and then fire a regular round through, assuming your target was foolish enough to stand by the hole. Obviously, its intended use is quite different than that suggested.

I suspect, without knowing the ballistic info behind this new round, it would lose too much of its stopping power, the range of the round would certainly be lessened. No doubt it would hurt like heck, possibly maim, but I don’t think it would be all that effective at flat out stopping. I think it would be useless in the hostage scenario they suggest.

Now a 12 ga. or even a 40mm grenade launcher with a device that expanded even further that could wrap around a perp might be something. I know one of the villians on the Tick had one and assuming television hasn’t lied to me, it could work.


26 posted on 02/07/2014 11:01:37 AM PST by rey
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“A question of legality inevitably arises when dealing with the sale and manufacturing of a new kind of deadly weapon, especially one that advertises itself as being.”

Ammo with beingness?


29 posted on 02/07/2014 11:05:19 AM PST by moovova
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I think this is better ...

http://g2rip.com/

And you gotta love a self-defense cartridge named RIP.

34 posted on 02/07/2014 11:09:03 AM PST by dartuser
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Here's their website.
41 posted on 02/07/2014 11:12:50 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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By employing a ballistic-strength fiber in the center of each bullet, Kuchman was able to contain the three shrapnel fragments within a finite distance of 14 inches across a Y-shaped pattern. This controlled distance makes the bullet ideal for hostage rescue squads aiming to take down a perpetrator holding a hostage close, as seen in most cliche'd cop movies.

This is utter crap BS. What shooter in their right mind would trust a bullet with a 14" spread to hit a perp and not a closely held hostage. BS and more BS.

The writer knows nothing of which he writes.

43 posted on 02/07/2014 11:13:04 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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but rather a .45mm handgun-type ammunition

That's some seriously small ammo.

50 posted on 02/07/2014 11:19:13 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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A question of legality inevitably arises when dealing with the sale and manufacturing of a new kind of deadly weapon, especially one that advertises itself as being.

I'm guessing English is not the writer's first language.

53 posted on 02/07/2014 11:21:09 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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