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Teens Run Wild During Florida State Fair's First Friday
Tampa Bay Timess ^ | ebruary 10, 2014 | Jessica Vander Velde

Posted on 02/11/2014 5:49:26 AM PST by Iron Munro

TAMPA — The first Friday of every Florida State Fair brings droves of Hillsborough teens, who get the day off from school and free admission. And each year, shortly after sunset, dozens of unsupervised minors start stampeding through the midway, the Sheriff's Office says.

They're fighting each other, robbing other patrons, stealing food and battering deputies.

The phenomenon is so common, deputies even have a term for it: They call it "wilding."

Authorities said the lawlessness is mostly confined to the first Friday. But they've never publicly shared details until Monday — after several media outlets, including the Tampa Bay Times, reported that 14-year-old Andrew Joseph III was kicked out of the fair Friday by deputies before he died while crossing Interstate 4 that night.

That day, approximately 200 deputies could not handle the chaos, sheriff's officials said. Some witnesses estimated 150 to 200 teens running wild.

A commander with 30 years of experience, Maj. Tom Feeney, said it's the worst thing he has seen in law enforcement. He asked the Florida State Fair Authority to shut down the fair around 9 p.m.

As with the other teens ejected before then, Andrew was driven by deputies to Gate 4, along Orient Road. They dropped him off about 8 p.m. and left.

Some deputies are posted near that gate but are not tasked with watching the juveniles. Deputies do not call the children's parents. The Sheriff's Office expects they will be picked up just like they were dropped off earlier.

Deputies were so overwhelmed Friday they could not "baby sit" the juveniles at Gate 4, sheriff's Col. Jim Previtera said Monday. Feeney had already called for backup to help with the out-of-control midway.

Street deputies arrived to help the on-site deputies, who are paid by the Fair Authority.

Teens were stealing candy apples and throwing them at deputies, Previtera said. One tried to launch a hand truck at a deputy, and another robbed a woman in a wheelchair of her purse, he said.

Deputies ejected 99 people and arrested 12 others. Of those 111 people, 16 were young adults. The remaining 95 were age 17 and younger .

Deputies probably would have arrested more people, Previtera said, but they often had to disengage for their own safety.

Andrew, a Riverview resident and eighth-grader at St. Stephen Catholic School, was not accused of any crimes.

Previtera did not have details of what Andrew supposedly did — only that it was "disorderly conduct" on the midway. He was killed nearly three hours after his ejection while crossing I-4 about 10:45 p.m.

Deputies did not have details about what Andrew did between 8 and 10:45 p.m. Previtera said the agency is sharing all its information with the Florida Highway Patrol.

Andrew's family could not be reached for comment Monday, but on Saturday called their son a sweet, caring young man who got straight-A's and was going to be confirmed at church Sunday.

That's not the profile expected of someone wilding, though a branch of social psychology is devoted to studying "crowd psychology." Individuals in large groups often feel a loss of responsibility for their own behavior. People act differently.

Previtera says the Sheriff's Office met three times last weekend with fair officials and planned to again on Monday. He said they likely will reposition some deputies and consider adding private security this week.

Before next year's fair, the agency plans to coordinate with community groups, including Tampa's Pastors on Patrol, the NAACP and the Sheriff's Black Advisory Council to get the word out that such behavior is unacceptable — like Tampa does before the Gasparilla parade.

The Sheriff's Office will consider other changes, though Previtera stopped short of saying the agency would alter its method for ejecting teens. The agency did not take responsibility for Andrew's death, with officials saying their interaction with him ended with his ejection.

Previtera said he called Andrew's parents on Sunday at Sheriff David Gee's request. A relative picked up Andrew's mother's phone, and Previtera said he briefly explained that he is available to answer any questions Andrew's parents might have.

"It's a tragedy, certainly," Previtera told reporters on Monday. "It's a 14-year-old. It's a tragedy."

The Fair Authority on Monday said in a prepared response that safety is its No. 1 priority, and that it works with the Sheriff's Office to ensure visitors' safety.

The authority is considering options, and while its directors did not commit Monday to anything, possibilities include closing earlier on busy nights and setting a limit for how late students can enter with free tickets.

Hillsborough County School District spokesman Stephen Hegarty said school officials review students' participation in the fair each year — not just misbehavior, but also how they conducted their livestock exhibits and other activities.

Hegarty said the ejections and arrests of teens will likewise be discussed by school and fair officials after next weekend. So far, he said, no proposals have been floated to cancel the students' day off because of the trouble. He said it was still unknown how many of those involved were students from the district.

"Right now, there are no plans to do anything differently," Hegarty said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: diversity; fl; florida; race; riot; wilding
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YOOTS RUNNING WILD

Holder's People running amok again.

Police have tried to minimize and cover up the annual black rioting at the Fair but it has finally become so pervasive it is now out in the open.

When 200 depties cannot contain the rampage you know there are more than "150 to 200 teens running wild".

Photo is of Andrew Joseph III, the one who was ejected from the Fair and subsequently run over while walking across the nearby interstate highway.


1 posted on 02/11/2014 5:49:26 AM PST by Iron Munro
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To: Iron Munro
The story in the lower left part of the paper...

The irony meter just went 'TILT!'

2 posted on 02/11/2014 5:54:11 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Iron Munro

There’s the problem. Don’t babysit them, arrest them. Have a few paddy wagons at the gates and start filling them up. If they get into fights inside it, too bad. After booking and spraying them with de-licer, call their parents but don’t let them out. Have a night judge immediately give them all 6 months in juvie and another 6 months of community service. Give them $5000 fines for damages and jail their parents if the fine isn’t paid in 10 days. Next year, don’t let them out of school and don’t give them free admission. This behavior should have been nipped in the bud years ago.


3 posted on 02/11/2014 5:59:06 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

Notice what organizations that were asked to help stem the violence.

No consequences, no stopping the violent actions, and there does not appear to be any consequences.


4 posted on 02/11/2014 6:02:26 AM PST by rstrahan
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To: Iron Munro

Yeah, I figured as much. Just deputize about 2,000 good ole boys and issue them baseball bats, pepper spray and cuffs. Problem solved.


5 posted on 02/11/2014 6:04:05 AM PST by technically right
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To: Iron Munro

If he is so smart, why was he crossing an interstate?


6 posted on 02/11/2014 6:04:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Iron Munro
Right now, there are no plans to do anything differently,

And everybody knows it.

7 posted on 02/11/2014 6:05:25 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Iron Munro

He was killed attempting to cross I-4 three hours later.

Trying to spin the death as somehow a consequence of the ejection is a really big stretch.


8 posted on 02/11/2014 6:08:20 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: AppyPappy
If he is so smart, why was he crossing an interstate?

to get to the "other side"

looks like he made it

10 posted on 02/11/2014 6:12:01 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Iron Munro
"Teens", huh?

The phenomenon is so common, deputies even have a term for it: They call it "wilding."

There should be another term for it: "prison time."

11 posted on 02/11/2014 6:13:24 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Iron Munro
Those wacky Amish yutes again!

Such high spirits, ya gotta love 'em.

12 posted on 02/11/2014 6:15:44 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: bgill
Before next year's fair, the agency plans to coordinate with community groups, including Tampa's Pastors on Patrol, the NAACP and the Sheriff's Black Advisory Council to get the word out that such behavior is unacceptable — like Tampa does before the Gasparilla parade.

*smack forehead* Well, there ya go! It's OUR fault for not telling these poor sweet "teens" that it's UNACCEPTABLE to behave like wild animals!

13 posted on 02/11/2014 6:16:03 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: workerbee

“Hillsborough teens”.....

Am I allowed to guess the race of these teens or would that be racist?


14 posted on 02/11/2014 6:16:36 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: bigheadfred
looks like he made it

LOL, thanks Fred, made my day!

15 posted on 02/11/2014 6:17:06 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Iron Munro

Whips and red-hot irons for all of them. Time for a lil cruel and unusual punishment, making an example.


16 posted on 02/11/2014 6:18:56 AM PST by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: Iron Munro
This is a karambit. Imagine having one of these in either hand during a "wilding" event. You are charged by a group of "yoots" (of indeterminate race, of course), intent on pummeling and grievously injuring you along with stealing from your beaten body.

Snicker-snack with vorpal blades.

17 posted on 02/11/2014 6:19:55 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: workerbee

“Deputies probably would have arrested more people, Previtera said, but they often had to disengage for their own safety.”

I think interlaced fire from a few M-60s would help their safety quite a bit.


18 posted on 02/11/2014 6:20:52 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Progov

“Hey Margaret! Let’s go to the State Fair. It says here they’re letting a local school out for the day and admission is FREE!”


19 posted on 02/11/2014 6:21:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bigheadfred

20 posted on 02/11/2014 6:21:35 AM PST by jimjohn (You don't get the kind of government you want, or the kind you need. You get the kind you deserve.)
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To: Iron Munro
Andrew's family ... called their son a sweet, caring young man who got straight-A's and was going to be confirmed at church Sunday.
Ah, "Saint" Andrew ... who knew?
21 posted on 02/11/2014 6:24:31 AM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: bigheadfred

rotflmao


22 posted on 02/11/2014 6:30:42 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Progov

You might as well guess. Everything else is racist, what is one more?


23 posted on 02/11/2014 6:31:06 AM PST by sport
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To: Iron Munro
He was killed nearly three hours after his ejection while crossing I-4 about 10:45 p.m.

I'm familiar with the area. The point where they were dropped him off after being kicked out is about 100 yards or so from where the road, complete with a perfectly fine sidewalk, runs under I-4. In fact, getting up onto I-4 in this area would be kind of difficult.

I have no idea what he was doing up on the interstate, but it wasn't because he had no other options for getting to someplace to make a call. (Not that finding a payphone is much of an issue anymore. Or possible even.)

24 posted on 02/11/2014 6:35:52 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Iron Munro

Negroes. Typical behavior.


25 posted on 02/11/2014 6:40:17 AM PST by ebshumidors
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To: MrB

Admission free only for the Yutes.


26 posted on 02/11/2014 6:40:20 AM PST by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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To: Iron Munro

More MSM covering for the yutes. NOTHING showing the perps on the Tampa news outlets at all.

On the Tampa I-275, wrong way driver this weekend. NO INFO on the perp driving the wrong way. All the coverage is about the 4 kids killed in the non-offending vehcile. Total silence on the 5th person, the criminal driver.

Another MSM cover up ... maybe some freeper has learned the truth as the MSM is hiding it.


27 posted on 02/11/2014 6:43:03 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Iron Munro

For some reason, I knew what they meant by “teens”.


28 posted on 02/11/2014 6:45:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Right now, there are no plans to do anything differently,
And everybody knows it.
____________________________________________________________

Similar situation occurred in my home town in Illanoy. We had a Homecoming every August, for years. Bands, floats, picnics..very American. “Teens” were bused in a couple of years ago to enjoy the experience. Fights broke out, mayhem and chaos ensued. Floats and bands cancelled for their own safety..city council eventually cancelled the event alltogether...very sad..and maddening.


29 posted on 02/11/2014 6:45:45 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: bigheadfred
looks like he made it

and in no time flat

30 posted on 02/11/2014 6:47:19 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


31 posted on 02/11/2014 6:51:34 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Ken H
The story in the lower left part of the paper...

The irony meter just went 'TILT!'

That's the root cause right there, isn't it?


32 posted on 02/11/2014 6:59:43 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: Sherman Logan

There is actually a perfectly legitimate issue.

The point where he was killed is reported as being near 301, about a mile east of Orient Road where he was dropped off.

301 is a freeway, more or less like an interstate, at this point. There is just no safe way at this point to get from the south to the north side of the interstate.

And I think that’s a bad idea. When roads are built, they should not assume that everybody has a car. They should not create incredibly unsafe barriers to pedestrians or bicyclists.


33 posted on 02/11/2014 7:02:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Iron Munro
"Our state fair is the very best fair--don't miss it, don't even be late . . ."-- opening theme from State Fair
34 posted on 02/11/2014 7:07:04 AM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
"Our state fair is the very best fair--don't miss it, don't even be late . . ."-- opening theme from State Fair

Soon Political Correctrness will complete the job of destroying what is left of American culture and tradition.

Public events like Fairs, Carnivals and Parades will start closing down due to the black thug problem and reluctance of law enforcement to deal with it.

We are going to end up living in a more populous version of South Africa.


35 posted on 02/11/2014 7:13:29 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: technically right
Sometimes, fire hoses and dogs are the answer.....
36 posted on 02/11/2014 7:17:50 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Iron Munro

New “post-racial” rule for interpreting press dispatches from the US media: No races were mentioned in the story, therefore 100% of the miscreants were, in fact, black.


37 posted on 02/11/2014 7:20:44 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: bgill
"There’s the problem. Don’t babysit them, arrest them. Have a few paddy wagons at the gates and start filling them up. If they get into fights inside it, too bad. After booking and spraying them with de-licer, call their parents but don’t let them out. Have a night judge immediately give them all 6 months in juvie and another 6 months of community service. Give them $5000 fines for damages and jail their parents if the fine isn’t paid in 10 days. Next year, don’t let them out of school and don’t give them free admission. This behavior should have been nipped in the bud years ago."

Common sense and the perfect answer. (Except, I probably would've suggested semi-trailers instead of paddy wagons. Holds more yutes.)

38 posted on 02/11/2014 7:21:08 AM PST by moovova
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To: Iron Munro

Sick of uncivilized savages being held to a lower standard than normal people.


39 posted on 02/11/2014 7:26:30 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Iron Munro
Hillsborough County School District spokesman Stephen Hegarty said school officials review students' participation in the fair each year — not just misbehavior, but also how they conducted their livestock exhibits and other activities.

Yeah, like livestock exhibitors are even a small part of the problem.

40 posted on 02/11/2014 7:31:36 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: moovova

“Except, I probably would’ve suggested semi-trailers instead of paddy wagons.”

Cruel and unusual punishment to use those big boxes with no light or ventilation. Use the more open ones they haul hogs or cattle in. Don’t clean them first.


41 posted on 02/11/2014 7:33:26 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Iron Munro

Funny, can’t find any pics from that night, of the perps.


42 posted on 02/11/2014 7:35:04 AM PST by polymuser
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To: Progov
Am I allowed to guess the race of these teens or would that be racist?

The sheriff's report stated that they were predominantly African-Americans. The Tampa Bay Times (formerly, the St. Petersburg Times, aka, Pravda West) chose not to include that in its story.

43 posted on 02/11/2014 7:41:00 AM PST by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Iron Munro

Do it fo Trayvon!


44 posted on 02/11/2014 8:03:05 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Iron Munro

Yep, ya just gotta love the NewSpeak press:

“Teens” = Feral AfroAm yoots.


45 posted on 02/11/2014 8:19:44 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
New “post-racial” rule for interpreting press dispatches from the US media: No races were mentioned in the story, therefore 100% of the miscreants were, in fact, black.

This quote from the article is the give-away:

"Before next year's fair, the agency plans to coordinate with community groups, including Tampa's Pastors on Patrol, the NAACP and the Sheriff's Black Advisory Council to get the word out that such behavior is unacceptable"

Notice there is no mention of coordinating with the Amish Quilting Club, the Young Irish Fellowship Club, Italian-American Youth Club, the FFA, the Future Farmers of America, the 4H Club or the local Tea Party.


46 posted on 02/11/2014 8:25:16 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: bgill

“This behavior should have been nipped in the bud years ago.”

Amendment to that . A country wide crack down on feral black yoots should be enacted and detention center set up. We have all those abused so called FEMA camps let’s fill them up and put them to good use.


47 posted on 02/11/2014 8:31:36 AM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Iron Munro
This quote from the article is the give-away:

Usually we don't even get that much of a hint.

48 posted on 02/11/2014 10:56:39 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Fightin Whitey

BWAAAHAHAHA


49 posted on 02/11/2014 11:10:22 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Fightin Whitey
looks like he made it and in no time flat

Will they be serving a pancake breakfast in his honor.

50 posted on 02/11/2014 11:12:40 AM PST by dfwgator
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