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Lindsey Graham: NSA data collection 'not Fourth Amendment' issue
washingtonexaminer.com ^
| 2/12/14
| Joel Gehrke
Posted on 02/13/2014 5:23:29 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
Grahamnesty better get his makeup checked...
His fifteen minutes are almost up...
JMO
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:42:01 AM PST
by
Wings-n-Wind
(The main things are the plain things!)
To: cotton1706
Well Linda, if it’s not a 4th amendment issue, then what is it?
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:43:07 AM PST
by
caver
(Obama: Home of the Whopper)
To: bert
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...”
Let me ask you, do you feel secure in your papers and effects if they are being passed on to a government agency without your consent?
To: BuffaloJack
In all seriousness I don't doubt that the NSA has something on Graham and others but the fact remains that an honest man cannot be blackmailed.
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:43:56 AM PST
by
cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
To: Mr. K
Bulk data stored this way is useless for anything.You are totally wrong. It is next to useless for its purported purpose - to prevent terrorism. But it is immensely effective for its actual purpose.
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:44:52 AM PST
by
Paine in the Neck
(Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
To: bert
With respect. I spent many years working in this field. NSA activity does indeed meet the criteria of a “search.” Coloring it as “data collection” changes nothing.
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:53:06 AM PST
by
PowderMonkey
(WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
To: cotton1706
I think you may miss the point of my argument.
My constitutionally protected personal papers etc are not being passed. The data is not mine, not in my possession.
The data in question is owned by AT&T.
Even if I do mind, I have no legal ability to prohibit AT&T from forking up all of the data.
In the old days, I’m sure my data was actually collected. In days of old, my extensive fax and telex traffic to numerous overseas locations was routinely monitored. I never had a problem though
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:57:39 AM PST
by
bert
((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
To: Paine in the Neck
I think that is exactly MY point
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posted on
02/13/2014 5:58:54 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
To: Mr. K
I think that is exactly MY pointI see, upon rereading, that it is. My apologies for jumping for the keyboard too quickly.
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posted on
02/13/2014 6:09:16 AM PST
by
Paine in the Neck
(Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
To: cotton1706
What lying sack o Shiite.
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posted on
02/13/2014 6:10:12 AM PST
by
Vendome
(Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
To: cotton1706
Follow me on this Lindsey...I (NSA) get bulk phone numbers. I take those phone numbers and look them up in Accurint (TM). Now I know where you live, your credit history, where you work, your car's registration, your political affiliation, if you have a CCW, how many homes you own, who your friends, and relatives are, where they live, etc..
Makes blackmail so easy, Lindsey. Just ask CJ John Roberts...
5.56mm
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posted on
02/13/2014 6:12:31 AM PST
by
M Kehoe
To: cotton1706
To: bert
“The NSA is not warantlessly searching nor seizing the property of citizens. The NSA is collecting data amassed by third party cell phone providers.”
Sure. Like my emails.
To: cotton1706
Poofter boy will go POOF!
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posted on
02/13/2014 6:25:03 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
To: cotton1706
The NSA probably has pictures of Grahmnesty broken over like a shotgun. I am not comfortable with the apparent level of blackmail coming out of our corrupt capital.
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posted on
02/13/2014 6:46:14 AM PST
by
RatRipper
(The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
To: cotton1706
It’s time for Lindsey to go.
To: cotton1706
Doing the dirty work so democrats won’t have to.
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posted on
02/13/2014 7:38:52 AM PST
by
Iron Munro
("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
To: cotton1706; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...
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posted on
02/13/2014 7:53:01 AM PST
by
null and void
(<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
To: cotton1706
"I think collecting data is not a Fourth Amendment activity if it's related to gathering intelligence to prevent a terrorist attack," Graham told the Washington Examiner. "It's not being used to prosecute anybody.Which means, of course, that after review when no link to terrorism is found the data is deleted forever, right? < /sarc >
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posted on
02/13/2014 8:50:33 AM PST
by
JimRed
(Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
To: null and void
When will this Nancy Boy be primaried?
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posted on
02/13/2014 8:59:33 AM PST
by
Nifster
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